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The Natural Philosopher  
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 More options Oct 27, 3:15 pm
Newsgroups: uk.telecom.broadband
From: The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:15:35 +0000
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: Tories Will Reverse UK Broadband Tax, (Tax-News.com)

Er, I knew a coule just like that once.

I still know several couples that are on 2nd/3rd 'marriages' with an
assortment of kids by several ftahers, that do not work and get paid not
to essentially.

I wont say they have a whale of a time, because they dont. However,
compared with being single, alone, and having nowhere to live its a
better option, so they take it. YOU try getting a council house if you
are single and unemployed..howver you CAN get rent support snd so on if
you can find a place to rent privately.

> It costs a lot more to bring up a child than the extra benefits that
> you might receive.

Many of these kids are not what I would call brought up, at all.

Brought down, is more like it.  I dunno what happened to happy bright
cheerful talkative kids. To a man they are dull, morose, whining,
unhappy brats.

>> I expect all businesses would love to be able to get the public
>> to pay their business expenses, boosting their profit and allowing
>> the bosses to put more money in their own pockets (and those of
>> share holders).

> Well the banks managed it.  Maybe the telecoms industry are hoping for
> the same?

Would be if it was still the Post Office that ran the telephones and
Internet.


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The Natural Philosopher  
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 More options Oct 27, 3:18 pm
Newsgroups: uk.telecom.broadband
From: The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:18:29 +0000
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: Tories Will Reverse UK Broadband Tax, (Tax-News.com)

No, they dont.

Go to africa and see for yourself.

>> Its a general taxation by a different route.

> It depends where the money goes.

No, taxation does not cahnge is name because teh money is used for
something else.

>> Labour has been good at hiding massive taxation hikes as 'other fees and
>> charges'

> All governments do this.  It's just a matter of value for money.  I
> don't mind paying my fair share of taxes, as long as it's spent
> reasonably.  Recent governments have not done a good job of this.

Well that of course is arguable. Nu Laber would show how its 'invested'
billions in 'job creation'

This is almost true, except I don't call generating a multi tiered
bureaucracy and more rules than  you can shake a stick at, that
generates no wealth whatsoever 'investment'

It sure has created lots of jobs though.


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 More options Oct 27, 10:37 pm
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From: Jim <j...@any.net>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:37:52 +0000
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 10:37 pm
Subject: Re: Tories Will Reverse UK Broadband Tax, (Tax-News.com)

Internet usage has already replaced a large chunk of
the letter service (while creating growth in the
parcels one), so it does make some sense to suggest a
comparable subsidy.  The downside is that subsidies
generally remove any incentive to come up with
cost-effective alternatives (e.g. wireless networks),
just as the current postal subsidy may be hindering
progress towards increased electronic communications.

Not to get OT, but the current postal dispute prompted
me to wonder if residential users could manage without
doorstep deliveries.  A lot more of my wanted mail
could come by e-mail if I chose (it's mainly habit
that stops me), and most of the rest (unsolicited)
could go into the real-world junk filter.  If the
Royal Mail were to send users an electronic message
saying "you've got mail" in their personal PO Box,
they could go collect it at their convenience,
preferably at a nominated point closer than the usual
edge-of-town sorting depot, maybe their local
supermarket or even Post Office, giving those
institutions a renewed purpose without relying on
gimmicky, non-core services (Roger Moore?  Really?)

The premium service - e.g. for country-dwellers -
could e-mail the scanned envelope (or even contents)
and offer a "reply", "return-to-sender" or "NKATA"
option.  It would be a big step from where we are now,
but we seem to be heading in that direction anyway.
To get back OT, it would all need a much more
universal internet service than we have at present.
IOW, shift the subsidy from paper mail to electronic
delivery by, for example, gradually reducing the
frequency of doorstep deliveries.  I doubt this would
do much for industrial relations, though some staff
might prefer to spend more time in sorting offices and
less on a delivery walk.

Getting back to the subject, even allowing for their
general opposition to taxes/subsidies, it seems odd
that the Tories would pick on a proposal that might
benefit their own natural constituencies in rural or
suburban areas.  This, after the recent announcement
on pensions affecting a large number of older voters,
suggests either (a) they're so confident of victory
they don't mind annoying potential supporters or (b)
for all their expensive education, the current
leadership members are not that smart.  Of course,
arrogance and incompetence are far from being mutually
exclusive!


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