So, are Sky being all Phormy or something? Or is the advert interrogating cached files on my laptop perhaps? Or a coincidence? And how do I stop it (moving to another ISP aside)?
> So, are Sky being all Phormy or something? Or is the advert > interrogating cached files on my laptop perhaps? Or a coincidence? And > how do I stop it (moving to another ISP aside)?
> Grr...
Answering my own question:
I cleared down my browser history, cookies etc. etc. and reloaded the page a few times. Generic adverts for BT and others.
I then went to Halfords and their Forerunner listings again. Then closed the browser, clicked the link above and the Halfords/Garmin advert is back. Great.
>> So, are Sky being all Phormy or something? Or is the advert >> interrogating cached files on my laptop perhaps? Or a coincidence? And >> how do I stop it (moving to another ISP aside)?
>> Grr...
> Answering my own question:
> I cleared down my browser history, cookies etc. etc. and reloaded the > page a few times. Generic adverts for BT and others.
> I then went to Halfords and their Forerunner listings again. Then closed > the browser, clicked the link above and the Halfords/Garmin advert is > back. Great.
I rather like fheking around with the cookie data :-)
Halfords are a sack of shit, I went in there the other day and within five seconds some moron came up to me whilst I was looking at windscreen wipers guide 'can I help you?'. My reply 'Do I look like I can't read and fucking write mate?' Noted the cost of a single blade at £11.49 and came to the conclusion the place is *so* expensive, they do this to distract you from it...
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"Abo" <n...@spam.thanks> wrote in message news:hd1vu4$159$1@news.albasani.net... > Abo wrote: >> I don't usually notice/pay attention to banner ads, however...
>> The other day I was looking at Garmin Forerunner 305s on the Halfords website as they were on offer.
>> So, are Sky being all Phormy or something? Or is the advert interrogating cached files on my laptop perhaps? Or a coincidence? >> And how do I stop it (moving to another ISP aside)?
>> Grr...
> Answering my own question:
> I cleared down my browser history, cookies etc. etc. and reloaded the page a few times. Generic adverts for BT and others.
> I then went to Halfords and their Forerunner listings again. Then closed the browser, clicked the link above and the > Halfords/Garmin advert is back. Great.
Yes spooky isn't it. All done with cookies AFAIK
I bought a book from Amazon, and months later I went to a totally unrelated website with an Amazon advert that said "Hi Graham". I don't think the public at large want or need that sort of thing and, IMHO, it erodes confidence in companies that use such tactics
Graham. wrote: > "Abo" <n...@spam.thanks> wrote in message > news:hd1vu4$159$1@news.albasani.net... >> Abo wrote: >>> I don't usually notice/pay attention to banner ads, however...
>>> The other day I was looking at Garmin Forerunner 305s on the >>> Halfords website as they were on offer. I've just visited >>> http://www.channel4.com/programmes/themes/3d-week >>> and lo, on the right hand side there is a Halfords advert for >>> Garmin Forerunners! So, are Sky being all Phormy or something? Or is the >>> advert >>> interrogating cached files on my laptop perhaps? Or a coincidence? >>> And how do I stop it (moving to another ISP aside)? Grr...
>> Answering my own question:
>> I cleared down my browser history, cookies etc. etc. and reloaded >> the page a few times. Generic adverts for BT and others. I then went to >> Halfords and their Forerunner listings again. Then >> closed the browser, clicked the link above and the Halfords/Garmin >> advert is back. Great.
> Yes spooky isn't it. All done with cookies AFAIK
> I bought a book from Amazon, and months later I went to a totally > unrelated website with an Amazon advert that said "Hi Graham". > I don't think the public at large want or need that sort of thing and, > IMHO, it erodes confidence in companies that use such tactics
Graham,
Why not simply delete your cookies and temporary internet files on a regular basis [1] if you want to stop that happening.
As a matter of interest, I have permanently stopped Google 'dropping' cookies [2] on my browsers (IE and Firefox) - and I have set up Firefox to delete cookies on shutdown. Ok, it causes a little more typing - but what the hell!
And I *NEVER* allow *ANY* third-party cookies - even though this seems to cause Hotmail to bitch on shutdown lately when using Firefox.
[1] Mine are cleared every night - with one exception. [2] That was around a year ago - after reading an article on the amount of information Google permanently stores on the searches etc that you make, along with the how they use their cookies to 'track' what you are doing online - it was a little disconcerting to say the least!
> I then went to Halfords and their Forerunner listings again. Then closed > the browser, clicked the link above and the Halfords/Garmin advert is > back. Great.
If you use Firefox, download the "adblock plus" plugin and use the "easylist" filter set.
Then grab yourself Crap Cleaner from http://www.ccleaner.com and use it regularly :-) (remember to untick the yahoo toolbar option as you go through the installation though)
Andy Burns wrote: > On 06/11/09 23:14, Colin Wilson wrote:
>> Then grab yourself Crap Cleaner remember to untick the yahoo toolbar >> option
> Crap Cleaner, sponsored by Crap Installer huh?
I've *never* had a problem with CCleaner (Crap Cleaner) 'dropping' spyware, scamware, scareware, malware etc, onto my system during its installation - and I've been using it for several years now.
If you have information that this sort of 'shit' is definitely being installed by CCleaner, then please show the links as to where it can be found!
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:50:21 -0000, Colin Wilson wrote: >>> Then grab yourself Crap Cleaner remember to untick the yahoo toolbar option >> Crap Cleaner, sponsored by Crap Installer huh?
> No, it's entirely up-front about it and optional.
There's also a 'lite' version w/o the toolbar and portable as well - no installer.
Simple way: with Opera I have cookies off by default and set to delete cookies on exit; only the sites where I want cookies (forums, to save logging on etc.) keep cookies. As for searching, I just played with Google and Yahoo! advanced search to get what I wanted, edited the urls and now have my preferences w/o cookies.
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:11:53 +0000, Abo ate alphabet spaghetti and shat
> Halfords are a sack of shit, I went in there the other day and within > five seconds some moron came up to me whilst I was looking at windscreen > wipers guide 'can I help you?'. My reply 'Do I look like I can't read and > fucking write mate?'
OT, but why did your dad think it was okay to be so rude to someone simply because he could be?
Don't know what you're dad does (or did) for a living but did he have to put up with rude customers and did he like it?
Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.broadband Job Justification Hearings, Abo chose the tried and tested strategy of:
> So, are Sky being all Phormy or something? Or is the advert > interrogating cached files on my laptop perhaps? Or a coincidence? And > how do I stop it (moving to another ISP aside)?
It's probably not Sky using Phorm - I'm sure we would have heard screams of blue murder by now if they were. It's more likely that the two sites concerned use the same ad network. To Adblock, I would add Noscript and Flashblock [or just uninstall Flash] too. Some might find having to whitelist sites to allow Javascript a PITA, but it's up to you to decide what the balance is. The reason I mention Flashblock is that Flash has it's own cookie thing called Local Shared Objects:
and clearing private data in Firefox will not eliminate these, and neither will disabling cookies.
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>> Halfords are a sack of shit, I went in there the other day and within >> five seconds some moron came up to me whilst I was looking at >> windscreen wipers guide 'can I help you?'. My reply 'Do I look like I >> can't read and fucking write mate?'
> OT, but why did your dad think it was okay to be so rude to someone > simply because he could be?
> Don't know what you're dad does (or did) for a living but did he have to > put up with rude customers and did he like it?
If some random arsehole approaches you, be it in a store, in the street or at your door I think 'fuck off' is a fair response.
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>>> Then grab yourself Crap Cleaner remember to untick the yahoo toolbar >>> option
>> Crap Cleaner, sponsored by Crap Installer huh?
> I've *never* had a problem with CCleaner (Crap Cleaner) 'dropping' spyware, scamware, scareware, malware etc, onto my system > during its installation - and I've been using it for several years now.
> If you have information that this sort of 'shit' is definitely being installed by CCleaner, then please show the links as to where > it can be found!
We are just talking about the Yahoo toolbar aren't we? I suppose it's a similar situation to Adobe (Acrobat) Reader trying it on with a Google Toolbar. It's surprising how many people actually like this stuff (not me) and collect so many damned toolbars that their browser window is reduced to a narrow letterbox.
> and collect so many damned toolbars that their browser window is > reduced to a narrow letterbox.
Talking of letterboxes, why is it that modern displays are a very wide landscape format when most documents are prepared/viewed as portrait, and most applications have their control interface (menu, toolbars, etc.) across the top?
Surely the display should be portrait orientation, and control interface movable to one side or the other?
>> and collect so many damned toolbars that their browser window is >> reduced to a narrow letterbox.
> Talking of letterboxes, why is it that modern displays are a very wide landscape format when most documents are prepared/viewed as > portrait, and most applications have their control interface (menu, toolbars, etc.) across the top?
> Surely the display should be portrait orientation, and control interface movable to one side or the other?
I certainly agree that a monitor on a (primarily) business machine should be portrait, but they are rarely seen outside of the publishing industry.
You can get monitors that swivel into both orientations.
The truth is that "widescreen" sells product, even a product that suits a square(ish) or portrait format better. Sat-Nav is a prime example.
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:33:51 +0000 (UTC), Spamtastic Spastic wrote: > On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:53:47 +0000, Carl Waring ate alphabet spaghetti and > shat out:
>>> Halfords are a sack of shit, I went in there the other day and within >>> five seconds some moron came up to me whilst I was looking at >>> windscreen wipers guide 'can I help you?'. My reply 'Do I look like I >>> can't read and fucking write mate?'
>> OT, but why did your dad think it was okay to be so rude to someone >> simply because he could be?
>> Don't know what you're dad does (or did) for a living but did he have to >> put up with rude customers and did he like it?
> If some random arsehole approaches you, be it in a store, in the street > or at your door I think 'fuck off' is a fair response.
Wow, you really are an angry little poster, aren't you? So long as the shop assistant is being civil, would it kill you to at least *try* to respond in kind. Apart from anything else, "no thanks" is much shorter.
>>> and collect so many damned toolbars that their browser window is >>> reduced to a narrow letterbox.
>> Talking of letterboxes, why is it that modern displays are a very wide >> landscape format when most documents are prepared/viewed as portrait, and >> most applications have their control interface (menu, toolbars, etc.) >> across the top?
>> Surely the display should be portrait orientation, and control interface >> movable to one side or the other?
> I certainly agree that a monitor on a (primarily) business machine should > be portrait, but they are rarely seen outside of the publishing industry.
> You can get monitors that swivel into both orientations.
> The truth is that "widescreen" sells product, even a product that suits > a square(ish) or portrait format better. > Sat-Nav is a prime example.
I prefer my sat-nav in landscape format. But I really dislike the way it turns the map so that the forward direction is "up" - I find it really disorientating having the map moving like that. I can't find an option to lock it to North = Up as one would use a conventional map.
This is an old version of TomTom installed on a PDA - are there other products that do allow one to lock North = Up ??
Graham. wrote: > "Unbeleiver" <cb@.....tts.is.invalid> wrote in message > news:hd2c0h$343$1@news.eternal-september.org... >> Andy Burns wrote: >>> On 06/11/09 23:14, Colin Wilson wrote:
>>>> Then grab yourself Crap Cleaner remember to untick the yahoo >>>> toolbar option
>>> Crap Cleaner, sponsored by Crap Installer huh?
>> I've *never* had a problem with CCleaner (Crap Cleaner) 'dropping' >> spyware, scamware, scareware, malware etc, onto my system during its >> installation - and I've been using it for several years now. If you have >> information that this sort of 'shit' is definitely being >> installed by CCleaner, then please show the links as to where it can >> be found!
> We are just talking about the Yahoo toolbar aren't we? > I suppose it's a similar situation to Adobe (Acrobat) Reader trying > it on with a Google Toolbar. > It's surprising how many people actually like this stuff (not me) > and collect so many damned toolbars that their browser window is > reduced to a narrow letterbox.
Graham,
Yes I believe so. I realised that Andy [1] was probably being a little cynical about Yahoo and its 'toolbar' after I pressed the send button (it had been a long day) - but like you, I also prefer to keep that sort of 'crap' (and the Google toolbar in particular) off my computer.
[1] Apologies Andy if it was Yahoo you were referring to.
alexd wrote: > Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.broadband Job Justification Hearings, > Abo chose the tried and tested strategy of:
>> So, are Sky being all Phormy or something? Or is the advert >> interrogating cached files on my laptop perhaps? Or a coincidence? >> And how do I stop it (moving to another ISP aside)?
> It's probably not Sky using Phorm - I'm sure we would have heard > screams of blue murder by now if they were. It's more likely that the > two sites concerned use the same ad network. To Adblock, I would add > Noscript and Flashblock [or just uninstall Flash] too. Some might > find having to whitelist sites to allow Javascript a PITA, but it's > up to you to decide what the balance is. The reason I mention > Flashblock is that Flash has it's own cookie thing called Local > Shared Objects:
"Graham." <m...@privacy.net> wrote: > You can get monitors that swivel into both orientations.
You don't really need a swivel unless you want to change the orientation back and forth often. You should be able to find a way of mounting a landscape screen in a portrait way without too much difficulty.
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> >> You can get monitors that swivel into both orientations.
> >You don't really need a swivel unless you want to change the orientation > >back and forth often. You should be able to find a way of mounting a > >landscape screen in a portrait way without too much difficulty.
> You will need a graphics adapter that can cope with setting a portrait > resolution and rotating the display though.
I've an NVidia card that does do this - I tried it a few hours ago.
> I only know of one that does this properly (and it does it automagically, > with a tilt switch in the monitor it's designed to be used with).
You don't need a switch in the monitor if you're not planning to rotate it back & forth all the time. One could, say, have a pair of monitors, one in landscape and one in portrait mode. Or three or four or whatever...
> There may be more, but I've only ever seen it once.
I recall a large monitor with a swivel etc years & years ago, probably sold with a pro DTP system...
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