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 More options Mar 17 2008, 9:04 pm
Newsgroups: talk.politics.tibet, soc.culture.china, talk.politics.misc, hk.politics
From: mongoose <mongoose...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:04:38 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Mar 17 2008 9:04 pm
Subject: Re: THE DALAI LAMA IS A LIAR!
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On Mar 17, 4:16 am, "ltl...@hotmail.com" <ltl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 17, 1:13 am, mongoose <mongoose...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > On Mar 16, 8:38 pm, "TruBlu" <tru...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Pro-Tibetan Independence groups, as well as the Dalai Lama himself
> > > had accused China of killing 1.2 million Tibetans.

> > Chinese Communist Party propagandists, such as yourself,
> > *continuously* try to use the number "1.2 million" to divert attention
> > from the important issues.

> Divert attention? Not at all. Calling a lie a lie is not diverting
> attention.
> It is focusing on the truth. Calling a liar a liar is not diverting
> attention.
> It is focusing on the truth.

> The 1.2 million number was used by the DL and other free Tibet groups
> to demonize China. They claimed that China had killed 1.2 million
> Tibetans. And the killing of this number of Tibetans constitutes
> incontrovertible proof that there had been genocide in Tibet. And
> Tibet should be splitted away from China. In fact, there were no such
> killing in Tibet. There were no gencoide in Tibet. And another plank
> underneath the free Tibet movement disappears.

> >  If the number of Tibetans killed was only
> > 1 million - or even 100 thousand - would *that* justify all the
> > murders of Tibetan monks and nuns?  *No*.  In no way whatsoever.  Even
> > the defense that you try to use as a smokescreen serves to condemn the
> > CCP.  The attention of the entire world is finally focused on the
> > Chinese Communist Party's brutal occupation of Tibet.  The half-truths
> > that have passed as excuses for their actions so far won't help them
> > now.

> Will you agree that the DL is a liar like Bush?
> Respect the truth first. The rest can be discussed in due course.

I believe that HH the Dalai Lama believes the numbers he has received
to be accurate.  I do not have enough information to judge either way,
any more than you do do.  What I do know is that the *essential* issue
is that many, many, many innocent Tibetan monks and nuns were
*murdered* by the "People's Liberation Army".  And I also know that
shameless liars and propagandists in the service of the CCP, such as
yourself, will try to use any dispute over exact numbers to gloss over
this fact.

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