> news:30b552a9-1575-4371-9ff4-933f1a2eb64e@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 6, 10:52 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)

> > Focusing on Ft. Hood Killer's Beliefs Are an Easy Out to Avoid the Deeper
> > Reasons for the Massacre

> ^ According to the political left, the main causes of izlamist extremism

> which is the whole point of the article.  WE DON'T KNOW the cause of this
> massacre.

> Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)

> Focusing on Ft. Hood Killer's Beliefs Are an Easy Out to Avoid the Deeper
> Reasons for the Massacre

> By Mark Ames

> Created Nov 6 2009 - 12:42pm

> It's hard to pinpoint what's the most shocking thing about Major Malik Nadal
> Hasan's shooting rampage in Fort Hood, Texas. I'll start with this: there's
> nothing all that ground-breaking about it. Happens all the time, it's just
> that we're a nation of amnesiacs who forget all the unpleasantries, and
> refuse to learn the valuable lessons.

> For starters, Fort Hood is located in Killeen, Texas -- where one of the
> deadliest rampage shootings in American history took place in 1991, when an
> unemployed ex-Navy enlistee, George Hennard Jr. [1], crashed his pickup into
> a popular cafeteria, pulled out two handguns (Hasan also used two handguns),
> and murdered 23 people before taking his own life. The day before the
> massacre, Hennard was eating a hamburger in a local restaurant watching the
> Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings and, according to the manager [2],
> "When an interview with Anita Hill came on, he just went off. He started
> screaming, 'You dumb bitch! You bastards opened the door for all the
>  women!'"

> So yesterday's Fort Hood shooting isn't the worst or most deranged
> mass-killing in Killeen's history -- not by a longshot. The mainstream media
> is enabling the screaming about the Muslim traitors in our midst, but Hasan
> killed far fewer Americans than the white, racist George Hennard. And they
> were bested by the federal government in nearby Waco Texas, in 1993, when
> federal forces slaughtered some 75 men, women and children in the Branch
> Davidian compound.

> But in what may seem like a strange coincidence, Maj. Hasan and Killeen are
> connected to another American shooting rampage. Killeen held the record for
> America's worst shooting massacre until 2007, when Virginia Tech student
> Seung-Hui Cho shot and killed 33 fellow students [3]. And Malik Nadal Hasan
> graduated from Virginia Tech in 1997. Both Hasan and Cho were bullied and
> harassed -- Hasan's cousin told reporters [4] that after 9/11, his military
> comrades regularly abused him, calling him "camel jockey." But the cousin
> insisted that Hasan's opposition to the war didn't grow out of the bullying,
> but rather from the stories he heard while interning as a psychiatric
> counselor to veterans from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Hasan even hired
> an attorney to try to come to a settlement with the US government and leave
> the service, but they wouldn't settle for a deal and instead forced him to
> deploy. He apparently fought it up to the day before his deployment -- and
> instead of going to the war, he brought the war to the US military.

> As is often the case, the wrong lesson was learned, and the solution was
> more guns and more militarization of society: after the Virginia Tech
> massacre in 2007: a new pro-gun student group was formed, calling for the
> arming of as many students as possible. The group is called Students for
> Concealed Carry on Campus [5], and today it claims over 40,000 members on
> over 363 campuses. Likewise in 1991 after the Killeen shootings, the state
> of Texas responded by enacting a law freeing up gun owners to carry
> concealed weapons. It was President Bush who signed the law as TX governor
> in 1995 [6] -- and it was also Bush in 2008 who signed the first federal gun
> control law [7] in 13 years after the Virginia Tech massacre.

> So Hasan, whose parents came to the US from Palestine, had plenty of
> personal connections to "Made in the USA" violence and massacres; and yet
> there's a frantic attempt to make him out to be a crazy Muslim monster
> hell-bent on killing Americans. Why would he need to take inspiration just
> from them, when Americans already provided so many excellent examples of how
> to mass-murder fellow Americans?

> Fort Hood, the largest military base in America, has seen its share of
> violence as well. For one thing, it holds the record for most soldiers
> killed in Iraq and Afghanistan -- 685 so far -- and though we don't know the
> figures, it's reasonable to assume that Fort Hood is responsible for a
> sizable percentage of the tens or hundreds of thousands killed in those
> countries since America invaded them. Over the same period, 75 soldiers have
> committed suicide at Fort Hood, ten in 2009 alone -- the highest of any
> base. In just one weekend in 2005, two soldiers who'd returned from Iraq
> killed themselves in separate incidents. Last year, in something right out
> of Full Metal Jacket, Specialist Jody Michael Wirawan, 21, of the 1st
> Cavalry Division, shot and killed his lieutenant [8], then killed himself
> when police arrived. And life in Killeen isn't much nicer [9]: it has one of
> the nation's lowest median incomes and highest crime rates. Earlier this
> year, a 20-year-old Fort Hood soldier was killed by a Killeen cop who
> claimed he killed the soldier after being dragged underneath his SUV; the
> dead soldier's mother filed a lawsuit claiming that the cop was notoriously
> out-of-control and violent, and that he shot her son while the car was
> pulled over.

> All of this violence and despair led Fort Hood's commander, Lt. General Rick
> Lynch, to build a post-traumatic stress disorder complex [10] called the
> Resiliency Campus, featuring a Spiritual Fitness Center for soldiers to
> meditate, and a Cognitive Enhancement Assistance Center. As though a
> spiritual fitness workout routine could resolve the underlying cause of why
> a Resiliency Campus was built in the first place.

> If the government really were concerned about all the suicides and PTSD
> cases, they could have prevented Mj. Hasan's murder-suicide mission before
> it happened. It would have been easy: Hasan had pleaded [11] with his
> superiors not to be sent to Iraq, where he was scheduled to be deployed, but
> his requests were denied. RIght-wing bloggers like Michelle Malkin and some
> mainstream outlets [12] have seized on reports emerging that Hasan
> supposedly voiced opinions [13] sympathetic to suicide bombers. But if he
> was an Al Qaeda sleeper-cell suicide bomber himself, it makes no sense why
> he'd a) argue with fellow soldiers that the wars are wrong and we should
> withdraw; and b) that he tried to get out of being deployed to Iraq. The
> 9/11 terrorists did their best to "blend in" and pretend like they were as
> American as apple pie, because the point is not to draw any attention to
> yourself if you're a terrorist planning to suicide bomb a military base.
> Moreover, the timing of his shooting, the day before he was to be sent off,
> shows that his desperation had reached the limit. What this suggests is that
> the massacre could have been avoided if Maj. Hasan's objections were taken
> into account.

> Maj. Hasan's opposition to the Iraq and Afghanistan wars puts him where the
> majority of Americans are today [14]. And he's not the first soldier at Fort
> Hood to protest the war. Desertion rates have soared since the Iraq
> invasion, and Fort Hood has had some high-profile objectors making the news
> this year, such as Spc. Victor Agosto [15], who was court-martialed in
> August after he refused to go to Afghanistan, and Sgt. Travis Bishop [16],
> who filed for conscientious objector status after serving in Iraq for 14
> months.

> Going back to Vietnam War, Fort Hood was famous as the site of one of the
> first anti-war protests in 1965, when the so-called "Fort Hood 3 [17]"
> refused to be shipped off on the grounds that the war was wrong and illegal.
> Three years later, the movement expanded: hundreds of African-American GIs
> protested plans to deploy them to the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago,
> and 43 were court-martialed. It was a heroic act: US troops and cops staged
> one of the bloodiest police-on-citizen episodes in modern history. In 1971,
> the Fort Hood United Front, made up of soldiers from the base, marched into
> Killeen, even though the city refused to grant them a permit; hundreds were
> arrested.

> Today, if you read through some of the forums out of Fort Hood, the antiwar
> mood is clearly strong and clearly a problem for the authorities. So they'll
> do their best to paint Maj. Hasan as a Muslim loon. The rightwing has been
> trying for years now to equate opposition to the wars with pro-terrorist,
> anti-American sentiment, and by the poll numbers today, that would make most
> Americans anti-American terrorists.

> You can already see the dark, rank heart of the American Soul in anonymous
> messages posted on underground right-wing sites like Free Republic [18], a
> few of which are posted below:

> Why is anyone surprised?

> We already have a DIRTY MOSLEM TRAITOR in the Oval Office.

> What's one more moslem piece of garbage?

> *         *         *

> [Quoting a previous posting] **If you are Islamic, you may not serve in our
> military. Period.**

> I'm getting closer to:

> If you are Islamic, you may not serve in our military live in this country.

> Period.

> *         *         *

> I'm getting closer to:

> If you are Islamic, you may not live.

> *         *         *

> The story is still fresh and there's a lot we

> There wers some indicators of interest inhis behavior prior to the
> shooting.

> On Nov 6, 3:14?pm, Kurt Nicklas <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> On Nov 6, 2:59?pm, Foxtrot <foxt...@null.com> wrote:

>>> D?nk 1010011010 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)

>>>>> Focusing on Ft. Hood Killer's Beliefs Are an Easy Out to Avoid the Deeper
>>>>> Reasons for the Massacre

>>> To libs, finding the "deeper reason" means finding a way to make the
>>> killer into a victim. As expected the article does exactly that. Virginia
>>> Tech is to blame! It's Ft Hood's fault! The guy who called him "camel
>>> jockey" is to blame for all those murders and injuries!

>>> These libloons pass around the blame so much it kinda ignores the
>>> psycho who actually pulled the triggers.

>>> This is why the bed wetting libs can't be trusted with law enforcement
>>> or national defense.

>>>> According to the political left, the main causes of izlamist extremism
>>>> are poverty and lack of education, and that if the West was willing to
>>>> transfer large sums of wealth to the izlamist world (besides the
>>>> trillions of dollars in oil revenues we already send to the Middle-
>>>> East), then muzlims would be lifted out of poverty and educated into
>>>> enlightenment and would no longer try to kill us.

>>> Problem with that theory is that extremely poor Buddhists, Christians,
>>> Hindus, Jews, Pagans or whatever don't commit genocide by strapping ?
>>> bombs to themselves and blowing up crowded marketplaces. Only Muslims.

>>>> The fact that many of the 9/11 hijackers (including their boss, Osama
>>>> bin Laden) were from wealthy Saudi Arabian families would seem to
>>>> discredit this theory, as does the fact that Malik Nadal Hasan was a
>>>> highly-educated doctor with a very comfortable income.

>>>> The left is also a big advocate of psychology (it is a form of
>>>> religion to them), and in recent months has made an issue over the
>>>> supposed lack of 'counseling' services for U.S. soldiers, to help them
>>>> cope with the new 'epidemic' of PTSD. ?But Hasan was one of the mental
>>>> health gurus the left puts so much faith in, so he should be immune
>>>> from mental problems himself, especially since he doesn't seem to have
>>>> been in any sort of combat situation that might have caused PTSD.

>>>> Then there were Hasan's own statement in recent weeks and months,
>>>> where he said muzlims should rise up against Western oppression, and
>>>> seemed to praise suicide bombers as heroes. ?I'm not try what sort of
>>>> spin the left will put on this, how they might try to lay the blame on
>>>> everyone else but Malik Nadal Hasan and his brainwashing cult.

>>> Those eeeevil heterosexual white males around the world cause all
>>> the misery.

>> Just as after 9/11 I see the same frantic rationalizing going on with
>> the leftwingers as they try to prove to themselves, once again, that
>> George Bush and Christians are a far bigger danger to the country than
>> Moslem terrorists who kill
>> Americans while shouting 'God is Great!". ?They won't stop until
>> they've successfully dug their ostrich heads back into the sand of
>> ignorance once again.- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

> I think I will wait a little longer for more facts of the case before
> drawing any tyoe of conclusion.

> There wers some indicators of interest inhis behavior prior to the
> shooting.

> Jigsaw

>>> Dänk 1010011010 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)
>>>>> Focusing on Ft. Hood Killer's Beliefs Are an Easy Out to Avoid the Deeper
>>>>> Reasons for the Massacre
>>> To libs, finding the "deeper reason" means finding a way to make the
>>> killer into a victim. As expected the article does exactly that. Virginia
>>> Tech is to blame! It's Ft Hood's fault! The guy who called him "camel
>>> jockey" is to blame for all those murders and injuries!
>>> These libloons pass around the blame so much it kinda ignores the
>>> psycho who actually pulled the triggers.
>>> This is why the bed wetting libs can't be trusted with law enforcement
>>> or national defense.
>>>> According to the political left, the main causes of izlamist extremism
>>>> are poverty and lack of education, and that if the West was willing to
>>>> transfer large sums of wealth to the izlamist world (besides the
>>>> trillions of dollars in oil revenues we already send to the Middle-
>>>> East), then muzlims would be lifted out of poverty and educated into
>>>> enlightenment and would no longer try to kill us.
>>> Problem with that theory is that extremely poor Buddhists, Christians,
>>> Hindus, Jews, Pagans or whatever don't commit genocide by strapping  
>>> bombs to themselves and blowing up crowded marketplaces. Only Muslims.
>>>> The fact that many of the 9/11 hijackers (including their boss, Osama
>>>> bin Laden) were from wealthy Saudi Arabian families would seem to
>>>> discredit this theory, as does the fact that Malik Nadal Hasan was a
>>>> highly-educated doctor with a very comfortable income.
>>>> The left is also a big advocate of psychology (it is a form of
>>>> religion to them), and in recent months has made an issue over the
>>>> supposed lack of 'counseling' services for U.S. soldiers, to help them
>>>> cope with the new 'epidemic' of PTSD.  But Hasan was one of the mental
>>>> health gurus the left puts so much faith in, so he should be immune
>>> >from mental problems himself, especially since he doesn't seem to have
>>>> been in any sort of combat situation that might have caused PTSD.
>>>> Then there were Hasan's own statement in recent weeks and months,
>>>> where he said muzlims should rise up against Western oppression, and
>>>> seemed to praise suicide bombers as heroes.  I'm not try what sort of
>>>> spin the left will put on this, how they might try to lay the blame on
>>>> everyone else but Malik Nadal Hasan and his brainwashing cult.
>>> Those eeeevil heterosexual white males around the world cause all
>>> the misery.
>> Just as after 9/11 I see the same frantic rationalizing going on with
>> the leftwingers as they try to prove to themselves, once again, that
>> George Bush and Christians are a far bigger danger to the country than
>> Moslem terrorists who kill
>> Americans while shouting 'God is Great!".  They won't stop until
>> they've successfully dug their ostrich heads back into the sand of
>> ignorance once again.

> Butbutbut... it's the religion of peace!

> news:8589563d-4dc3-4542-b054-560d7f7a0148@l2g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...

>  <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > "Kurtis T. Nicklas of 1293 Westbrook Ave, Elon, NC
> > > 27244-9372"<nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

> > >news:da21438d-ac2d-4f0b-853c-47deef77b8bc@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> > > <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)

> > > > Focusing on Ft. Hood Killer's Beliefs Are an Easy Out to Avoid the
> > > > Deeper
> > > > Reasons for the Massacre

> > > ^ The killer was yelling 'Allahu Akhbar' as he killed Americans.

> > > I wonder what name all those Army of God murderer friends of yours have
> > > on
> > > their lips as they bomb women's health clinics in America, Kurtis.

> > ^ Richard, you tell me.

> > Oh, the irony.

> ^ Inability to answer didn't happen.

> I've already answered, giving a mountain of proof that your Army of God
> murderer buddies have been responsible for some of the most horrendous crap
> in our country's history.  

> Mandelbaum" <texan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Butbutbut... it's the religion of peace!

> Like Christianity.

>> There wers some indicators of interest inhis behavior prior to the
>> shooting.

> One thing is certain, he is a gun nut.  

> Nicklas" <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > I'd like to leave you with one thought,Earl...but I'm not sure you
> > have anywhere to put it!

> You would not be in a postiion to know.

> My brain is full of lots and lots of stuff

> Your posting shows that.
> The topic is the Fort Hood shooting.

>> >> Focusing on Ft. Hood Killer's Beliefs Are an Easy Out to Avoid the Deeper
>> >> Reasons for the Massacre

>> To libs, finding the "deeper reason" means finding a way to make the
>> killer into a victim. As expected the article does exactly that. Virginia
>> Tech is to blame! It's Ft Hood's fault! The guy who called him "camel
>> jockey" is to blame for all those murders and injuries!

>> This is why the bed wetting libs can't be trusted with law enforcement
>> or national defense.

>> >According to the political left, the main causes of izlamist extremism
>> >are poverty and lack of education,

>> Problem with that theory is that extremely poor Buddhists, Christians,
>> Hindus, Jews, Pagans or whatever don't commit genocide by strapping  
>> bombs to themselves and blowing up crowded marketplaces. Only Muslims.

>> >The fact that many of the 9/11 hijackers (including their boss, Osama
>> >bin Laden) were from wealthy Saudi Arabian families would seem to
>> >discredit this theory, as does the fact that Malik Nadal Hasan was a
>> >highly-educated doctor with a very comfortable income.

>> >The left is also a big advocate of psychology (it is a form of
>> >religion to them), and in recent months has made an issue over the
>> >supposed lack of 'counseling' services for U.S. soldiers, to help them
>> >cope with the new 'epidemic' of PTSD.  But Hasan was one of the mental
>> >health gurus the left puts so much faith in, so he should be immune
>> >from mental problems himself, especially since he doesn't seem to have
>> >been in any sort of combat situation that might have caused PTSD.
>> >Then there were Hasan's own statement in recent weeks and months,
>> >where he said muzlims should rise up against Western oppression, and
>> >seemed to praise suicide bombers as heroes.  I'm not try what sort of
>> >spin the left will put on this, how they might try to lay the blame on
>> >everyone else but Malik Nadal Hasan and his brainwashing cult.

>> Those eeeevil heterosexual white males around the world cause all
>> the misery.

>Just as after 9/11 I see the same frantic rationalizing going on with
>the leftwingers as they try to prove to themselves, once again, that
>George Bush and Christians are a far bigger danger to the country than
>Moslem terrorists who kill
>Americans while shouting 'God is Great!".  They won't stop until
>they've successfully dug their ostrich heads back into the sand of
>ignorance once again.

>> Nicklas" <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> > I'd like to leave you with one thought,Earl...but I'm not sure you
>> > have anywhere to put it!

>> You would not be in a postiion to know.

>> My brain is full of lots and lots of stuff

>Your brain is full of cobwebs.

>> but I
>> post  useful information, and you are not one of the
>> information furnishers of this world.

>> Your posting shows that.

>> The topic is the Fort Hood shooting.

>Earl, can you deal with the fact that the shooter was a committed
>muslim who was yelling 'Allahu Akhbar' as he was shooting Americans or
>do you simply want to keep droning 'What about Christianity?'

> news:8589563d-4dc3-4542-b054-560d7f7a0148@l2g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...

> <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > "Kurtis T. Nicklas of 1293 Westbrook Ave, Elon, NC
> > > 27244-9372"<nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

> > >news:da21438d-ac2d-4f0b-853c-47deef77b8bc@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> > > <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)

> > > > Focusing on Ft. Hood Killer's Beliefs Are an Easy Out to Avoid the
> > > > Deeper
> > > > Reasons for the Massacre

> > > ^ The killer was yelling 'Allahu Akhbar' as he killed Americans.

> > > I wonder what name all those Army of God murderer friends of yours
> > > have
> > > on
> > > their lips as they bomb women's health clinics in America, Kurtis.

> > ^ Richard, you tell me.

> > Oh, the irony.

> ^ Inability to answer didn't happen.

> I've already answered, giving a mountain of proof that your Army of God
> murderer buddies have been responsible for some of the most horrendous
> crap
> in our country's history.

> Mandelbaum" <texan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Butbutbut... it's the religion of peace!

> Like Christianity.

>> Mandelbaum" <texan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Butbutbut... it's the religion of peace!
>> Like Christianity.

> ^ I'd like to leave you with one thought,Earl

> But you don't have a response because you're a hypocritical Christofascist,
> so you're going to snipe and run.

> news:QNmdndz37OFI5WnXnZ2dnUVZ_hhi4p2d@rcn.net...

> > Gandalf Grey wrote:
> >> "Dänk 1010011010" <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:30b552a9-1575-4371-9ff4-933f1a2eb64e@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Nov 6, 10:52 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)

> >>> Focusing on Ft. Hood Killer's Beliefs Are an Easy Out to Avoid the
> >>> Deeper
> >>> Reasons for the Massacre

> >> ^ According to the political left, the main causes of izlamist extremism

> >> which is the whole point of the article.  WE DON'T KNOW the cause of this
> >> massacre.

> > Nonsense. We know *exactly* what the cause of this act of terrorism was.

> You're a moron.  NO ONE KNOWS exactly why this happened other than the
> investigators on the scene, if they know yet.  And if they know they haven't
> told the public.  So you know NOTHING at this point, and the only thing
> you're accomplishing is demonstrating that the right wing operates on
> nothing but knee jerk bigotry and fear.

> news:QNmdndz37OFI5WnXnZ2dnUVZ_hhi4p2d@rcn.net...

> > Gandalf Grey wrote:
> >> "Dänk 1010011010" <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:30b552a9-1575-4371-9ff4-933f1a2eb64e@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Nov 6, 10:52 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)

> >>> Focusing on Ft. Hood Killer's Beliefs Are an Easy Out to Avoid the
> >>> Deeper
> >>> Reasons for the Massacre

> >> ^ According to the political left, the main causes of izlamist
> >> extremism

> >> which is the whole point of the article. WE DON'T KNOW the cause of
> >> this
> >> massacre.

> > Nonsense. We know *exactly* what the cause of this act of terrorism was.

> You're a moron. NO ONE KNOWS exactly why this happened other than the
> investigators on the scene, if they know yet. And if they know they
> haven't
> told the public. So you know NOTHING at this point, and the only thing
> you're accomplishing is demonstrating that the right wing operates on
> nothing but knee jerk bigotry and fear.

>> news:QNmdndz37OFI5WnXnZ2dnUVZ_hhi4p2d@rcn.net...

>> > Gandalf Grey wrote:
>> >> "Dänk 1010011010" <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message

>>news:30b552a9-1575-4371-9ff4-933f1a2eb64e@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> >> On Nov 6, 10:52 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)

>> >>> Focusing on Ft. Hood Killer's Beliefs Are an Easy Out to Avoid the
>> >>> Deeper
>> >>> Reasons for the Massacre

>> >> ^ According to the political left, the main causes of izlamist
>> >> extremism

>> >> which is the whole point of the article.  WE DON'T KNOW the cause of
>> >> this massacre.

>> > Nonsense. We know *exactly* what the cause of this act of terrorism
>> > was.

>> You're a moron.  NO ONE KNOWS exactly why this happened other than the
>> investigators on the scene, if they know yet.  And if they know they
>> haven't told the public.  So you know NOTHING at this point, and the
>> only thing you're accomplishing is demonstrating that the right wing
>> operates on nothing but knee jerk bigotry and fear.

> NO ONE KNOWS exactly why this happened ----
> hogwash

> we know who the enemy is
> and we don't care about their whines

> the good news is that we can torture this sorry ass to find his cohorts

> >> Focusing on Ft. Hood Killer's Beliefs Are an Easy Out to Avoid the Deeper
> >> Reasons for the Massacre

> > ^ According to the political left, the main causes of izlamist extremism

> > which is the whole point of the article.  WE DON'T KNOW the cause of this
> > massacre.

> Nonsense. We know *exactly* what the cause of this act of terrorism was.

> The only question remaining is will any respected leaders of the
> "religion of peace" condemn this act of terrorism?

> >> Focusing on Ft. Hood Killer's Beliefs Are an Easy Out to Avoid the Deeper
> >> Reasons for the Massacre

> To libs, finding the "deeper reason" means finding a way to make the
> killer into a victim. As expected the article does exactly that. Virginia
> Tech is to blame! It's Ft Hood's fault! The guy who called him "camel
> jockey" is to blame for all those murders and injuries!

> These libloons pass around the blame so much it kinda ignores the
> psycho who actually pulled the triggers.

> This is why the bed wetting libs can't be trusted with law enforcement
> or national defense.

> >According to the political left, the main causes of izlamist extremism
> >are poverty and lack of education, and that if the West was willing to
> >transfer large sums of wealth to the izlamist world (besides the
> >trillions of dollars in oil revenues we already send to the Middle-
> >East), then muzlims would be lifted out of poverty and educated into
> >enlightenment and would no longer try to kill us.

> Problem with that theory is that extremely poor Buddhists, Christians,
> Hindus, Jews, Pagans or whatever don't commit genocide by strapping  
> bombs to themselves and blowing up crowded marketplaces. Only Muslims.

> >The fact that many of the 9/11 hijackers (including their boss, Osama
> >bin Laden) were from wealthy Saudi Arabian families would seem to
> >discredit this theory, as does the fact that Malik Nadal Hasan was a
> >highly-educated doctor with a very comfortable income.

> >The left is also a big advocate of psychology (it is a form of
> >religion to them), and in recent months has made an issue over the
> >supposed lack of 'counseling' services for U.S. soldiers, to help them
> >cope with the new 'epidemic' of PTSD.  But Hasan was one of the mental
> >health gurus the left puts so much faith in, so he should be immune
> >from mental problems himself, especially since he doesn't seem to have
> >been in any sort of combat situation that might have caused PTSD.

> >Then there were Hasan's own statement in recent weeks and months,
> >where he said muzlims should rise up against Western oppression, and
> >seemed to praise suicide bombers as heroes.  I'm not try what sort of
> >spin the left will put on this, how they might try to lay the blame on
> >everyone else but Malik Nadal Hasan and his brainwashing cult.

> Those eeeevil heterosexual white males around the world cause all
> the misery.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

>> news:QNmdndz37OFI5WnXnZ2dnUVZ_hhi4p2d@rcn.net...

>>> Gandalf Grey wrote:
>>>> "Dänk 1010011010" <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:30b552a9-1575-4371-9ff4-933f1a2eb64e@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Nov 6, 10:52 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Published on The Smirking Chimp (http://www.smirkingchimp.com)
>>>>> Focusing on Ft. Hood Killer's Beliefs Are an Easy Out to Avoid the
>>>>> Deeper
>>>>> Reasons for the Massacre
>>>> ^ According to the political left, the main causes of izlamist
>>>> extremism
>>>> which is the whole point of the article. WE DON'T KNOW the cause of
>>>> this
>>>> massacre.
>>> Nonsense. We know *exactly* what the cause of this act of terrorism was.
>> You're a moron. NO ONE KNOWS exactly why this happened other than the
>> investigators on the scene, if they know yet. And if they know they
>> haven't
>> told the public. So you know NOTHING at this point, and the only thing
>> you're accomplishing is demonstrating that the right wing operates on
>> nothing but knee jerk bigotry and fear.

> NO ONE KNOWS exactly why this happened
> ----
> hogwash

> we know who the enemy is
> ==================

> yeah.  American Christofascists and neoconfederates.

> take your UN and stick it up yer arse

> the good news is that we can torture this sorry ass to find his cohorts

>> Butbutbut... it's the religion of peace!

>Like Christianity.