Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right By JEREMY W. PETERS Published: November 3, 2009
SARANAC LAKE, N.Y. — Democrats won a special election in New York State’s northernmost Congressional district Tuesday, a setback for national conservatives who heavily promoted a third candidate in what became an intense debate over the direction of the Republican Party.
The White House became involved in the efforts to boost the Democratic candidate, Bill Owens, in the closing days of the campaign. The 23rd Congressional District leans Republican.
The Democratic candidate, Bill Owens, led with 49 percent of the vote, while the Conservative Party candidate, Douglas L. Hoffman, had 46 percent.
Just before 12:30 a.m. Mr. Owens stepped up to a lectern at an American Legion Hall in Plattsburgh, his hometown, and urged residents of the district to put aside the partisan fighting that characterized the race.
"The challenges that we face are not Democratic or Republican," he said. "They are not liberal or conservative. They're challenges that Americans face and that we will overcome with American resolve."
Mr. Hoffman spoke to a deflated crowd of about 50 in a hotel ballroom here soon after midnight on Wednesday and said he had called Mr. Owens to concede.
“Thank you to every single person out there that joined my team and fought back for America,” Mr. Hoffman said. “This one was worth the fight. And it’s only one fight in the battle, and we have to keep fighting.”
The district has been a Republican stronghold for generations, and the party has represented parts of it since the 19th century.
The battle became one of the most closely followed races in the nation, drawing in some of the biggest forces in politics in both parties. Republicans who viewed the race as a test of the party’s most deeply held conservative principles — including Sarah Palin, the former governor of Alaska; Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, a presidential hopeful; and grass- roots groups that have forcefully opposed Democratic economic and health care policies — rallied behind Mr. Hoffman.
Democrats threw muscle behind the race as well, eager to avoid a potentially embarrassing defeat as President Obama’s approval ratings have softened and efforts to portray them as the party of big government and deficit spending appear to be sticking. A win in the Republican- leaning 23rd Congressional District would provide Democrats with a welcome boost, while a loss would reinforce the notion that the party is struggling.
The seat became vacant after President Obama appointed its long-serving Republican congressman, John M. McHugh, as secretary of the Army.
Leading conservative voices — including The Wall Street Journal’s editorial page and The Weekly Standard and the talk show personalities Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck — took on the Republican nominee, Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava, who supports gay rights and abortion rights and had embraced some Democratic economic policies like the federal stimulus package. They labeled her as too liberal.
The attacks on Ms. Scozzafava eventually took their toll, and she stunned her party over the weekend first by withdrawing from the race and then by urging her supporters to vote for Mr. Owens, a 60-year-old lawyer from Plattsburgh.
But the ballots had already been printed, and early results showed her picking up 6 percent of the vote. It was unclear how many of those were protest votes, and how many simply did not know she had left the race.
The White House became closely involved in the efforts to boost Mr. Owens’s candidacy in the final days of the campaign. They orchestrated an effort that persuaded Ms. Scozzafava to endorse Mr. Owens. Vice President Joseph R. Biden rolled through the district on Monday to support Mr. Owens.
But the race was perhaps most notable for the fissures it opened in the Republican Party. Ms. Scozzafava, who was selected as the Republican nominee by the 11 leaders of the county committees that comprise this vast district along the Canadian border, was excoriated by Washington’s conservative establishment almost as soon as she was nominated.
Ms. Scozzafava united social and fiscal conservatives from across the country firmly behind Mr. Hoffman, a previously unknown 59-year-old accountant from Lake Placid — which is not in the district.
The Club for Growth, a group that promotes limited government and lower taxes, spent about $1 million promoting Mr. Hoffman. Social conservative organizations like the Susan B. Anthony List, which opposes abortion, and the National Organization for Marriage, which fights same-sex marriage laws, joined forces in support of Mr. Hoffman. They printed literature, made phone calls and flooded the district with volunteers from across the country.
“This is probably the most amazing coalition-building I’ve seen in a long time — probably decades,” said Marilyn Musgrave, a former Republican congresswoman from Colorado who now works with the Susan B. Anthony List and came to New York to campaign for Mr. Hoffman.
On Tuesday morning, Ms. Musgrave stood in frigid weather for several hours outside a state office building in downtown Watertown with a group of home-schooled students passing out blue fliers that read, “Doug Hoffman shares our values!”
Ms. Musgrave said the overwhelming conservative embrace of Mr. Hoffman would show leaders in Washington that political bases should not be taken for granted. “Don’t just assume we’re yours.”
Joe Lo Templio reported from Plattsburgh.
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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:31:36 -0500, Mr.B1ack wrote: > I notice how you concentrate on the DNCs one significant victory ... > instead of its numerous losses :-)
> The gild is off the DNC lily at this point - and the GOP is *back* ... > pretty damned quick too.
What numerous losses? They lost one governorship they were expected to lose from the outset, and nearly won another one where just a month earlier they had been trailing by 20 points.
As for the DNC, a progressive won what had been a blue dog district in California.
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:31:36 -0500, Mr.B1ack wrote:
>> I notice how you concentrate on the DNCs one significant victory ... >> instead of its numerous losses :-)
>> The gild is off the DNC lily at this point - and the GOP is *back* ... >> pretty damned quick too.
> What numerous losses? They lost one governorship they were expected to > lose from the outset, and nearly won another one where just a month > earlier they had been trailing by 20 points.
> As for the DNC, a progressive won what had been a blue dog district in > California.
And a seat in the NY 23rd that hasn't been held by a democrat since the civil war. Things look extraordinarily bad for the GOP.
That's your big victory? You split the party and won a squeaker?
The Republicans Underestimate Their Strength
By Peter Ferrara on 11.4.09 @ 6:09AM
In last year's campaign, the one true thing Obama said to his critics was, "The political ground is changing under your feet." But what is not sufficiently recognized is that is going on again, right now, in the opposite direction.
That is what yesterday's elections showed. And what yesterday's political earthquake revealed about the landscape is that the biggest miscalculation going on right now is that the Republicans underestimate their own strength. As a result, they may fail to take maximum advantage of the political tsunami that is coming in 2010, just building to what is to come in 2012. For conservatives, this is a time of greater opportunity than 1977.
The Virginia Smackdown
Virginia in modern times had been a conservative Republican state, particularly in elections for national offices. But led by a badly confused Northern Virginia local business community that thought it saw advantage in runaway state taxes and spending, the state began trending Democrat a decade ago, electing two straight Democrat governors, and two Democrat U.S. senators. Just last year, the state went for Barack Obama by 6 points.
That trend was reversed yesterday in a Republican landslide that saw the GOP win every statewide office for only the second time in history. Republican Bob McDonnell won the Governor's race by 18 percentage points, reflecting a swing of almost 24 points towards the Republicans in just one year. In other words, about one-fourth of Virginia voters swung away from President Obama to the Republicans in that year.
Moreover, young, conservative, grassroots leader Ken Cuccinelli won the Attorney General's office by a similar margin. Cuccinelli won the hearts of local taxpayer activists 6 years ago by leading a shoestring revolt against a well-heeled, multimillion dollar, state establishment referendum for a sales tax increase. Incumbent Democrat Mark Warner, now a U.S. Senator, and the Northern Virginia business machine, both went down in flames to Cuccinelli's rag tag grassroots irregulars, outspent more than 10 to 1. Cuccinelli is also the political leader of the state's pro-life forces, pro-family groups, and social conservatives.
What makes this so significant is that Virginia has a one-term limit for Governor, and Attorney General is a traditional jumping off point for gubernatorial candidates, as it was for McDonnell. The youthful Cuccinelli is consequently a rapidly rising star nationally for conservatives. CPAC, take note, this guy is one of our own.
Republicans should make peace now with the Northern Virginia business community by supporting the extensive road building program they want to relieve traffic congestion, financing it out of general revenues by restricting the growth of other state spending. McDonnell won their support this year with this position, and there is no reason Republicans should not now implement this vigorously.
Don't let the Obama spinmeisters tell you Obama had nothing to do with this race. He was all over it in mailings, ads, even appearances appealing to the black vote in Tidewater. The swing in this state represents the grassroots anger with Obama's extremism.
Running the Table
Barack Obama won last year in New Jersey, one of the most solidly Democrat-controlled states, with 57% of the vote. As of this writing, incumbent Democrat Governor Jon Corzine has 45% of the vote, to 49% for Republican challenger Chris Christie, a lead of almost 100,000 votes. That is a swing of 12% towards the Republicans in just one year, in this ultraliberal state. Christie is now the projected winner.
This is a huge defeat for Barack Obama. He campaigned heavily with Corzine, which he didn't have to do. That communicates massive overconfidence by Obama. Precisely while Obama barnstormed the state, Christie passed Corzine and grew his lead. Bottom line: if Obama can't make it here, he can't make it anywhere. Sure, Corzine produced terrible failures for New Jersey as Governor. But these election results represent voter wrath against Obama as well, even in this state.
Indeed, Christie won despite a third party challenger from the right. Even with that, Corzine and Obama could not win. In fact, voters overall turned down Corzine/Obama leadership 54% to 45%, a landslide loss for the Democrats. Christie showed just how Republicans have to deal with such third party challenges. It is their responsibility to win over the voters. It is not the responsibility of those challengers to stand down so the Republican can win. Remember, Reagan faced a third party challenger in 1980 from a moderate Republican, John Anderson. Reagan still swept to a landslide win over an incumbent Democrat President, by presenting a positive conservative vision Americans could believe in. That is the winning model.
With Mike Bloomberg's re-election, New York City has now been governed by Republican mayors for 20 years. That shows New Yorkers are more tough-minded than the unthinking Democrat party machine captives of Detroit, Philadelphia, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh, who are proving incapable of self-government as their cities literally melt away beneath their feet.
> > Republicans swept Tuesday's gubernatorial races, with Bob McDonnell > > easily winning in Virginia and Chris Christie squeaking ahead of > > incumbent Jon Corzine in New Jersey. The New Jersey loss is a big > > blow for Democrats, as President Obama had campaigned heavily for > > Corzine. And results reverse a trend for Virginia, which has had > > Democratic governors for the past eight years and last year, for > > the first time in 44 years, went blue to elect Barack Obama. > > Leading up to the election, pundits speculated that a Republican > > gubernatorial sweep could indicate dissatisfaction with the > > administration in Washington, but exit polls indicated that voting > > reflected feelings about the economy, not Obama. Exit polls showed > > that 89 percent of voters in New Jersey, and 85 percent in > > Virginia, were "very" worried about the economy for the upcoming > > year. 888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888
> > I fixed it for you.
> Spun it, you mean.
No spin, just facts.
> Can you remember back to yesterday, when the NY-23rd as the most > important race of all, the one that would really show the world who > should be running the GOP?
I never heard that. I never read that.
> We were being told that just 10 hours ago, in fact.
Who told you that? Where?
> Will you be airbrushing Hoffman out of all the Party images now?
> That's your big victory? You split the party and won a squeaker?
This was your big comeback. You won a governorship no one thought you'd lose, narrowly won another one you should have skated into and lost a seat that you haven't lost since the Civil War?
>Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right >By JEREMY W. PETERS >Published: November 3, 2009
>SARANAC LAKE, N.Y. — Democrats won a special election in New York State’s >northernmost Congressional district Tuesday, a setback for national >conservatives who heavily promoted a third candidate in what became an >intense debate over the direction of the Republican Party.
Zippy is trying so hard to spin the massive hit the Dems took last night...
>>Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right >>By JEREMY W. PETERS >>Published: November 3, 2009
>>SARANAC LAKE, N.Y. - Democrats won a special election in New York State's >>northernmost Congressional district Tuesday, a setback for national >>conservatives who heavily promoted a third candidate in what became an >>intense debate over the direction of the Republican Party.
> Zippy is trying so hard to spin the massive hit the Dems took last > night...
what massive hit was that. We expected to lose the one governor race, we narrowly lost the other one and picked up two congressional seats. And one of those hasn't been won by a democrat [NY23] since the Civil War.
Take your meds. Your American Neoconfederate Party is still out in the cold.
> >>Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right > >>By JEREMY W. PETERS > >>Published: November 3, 2009
> >>SARANAC LAKE, N.Y. - Democrats won a special election in New York State's > >>northernmost Congressional district Tuesday, a setback for national > >>conservatives who heavily promoted a third candidate in what became an > >>intense debate over the direction of the Republican Party.
> > Zippy is trying so hard to spin the massive hit the Dems took last > > night...
> what massive hit was that. We expected to lose the one governor race, we > narrowly lost the other one and picked up two congressional seats. And one > of those hasn't been won by a democrat [NY23] since the Civil War.
The Democrats had it from 1979 to 1993, god you idiots need to do some research.
> Take your meds. Your American Neoconfederate Party is still out in the > cold.
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:25:44 -0800, Gandalf Grey wrote: > "nobody" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:7fh3f5d6kc5mln5l61fnol0h0hjlh64lga@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:37:33 -0600, "5265 Dead, 398 since 1/20/09" >> <d...@dead.com> wrote:
>>>Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right By JEREMY W. >>>PETERS >>>Published: November 3, 2009
>>>SARANAC LAKE, N.Y. - Democrats won a special election in New York >>>State's northernmost Congressional district Tuesday, a setback for >>>national conservatives who heavily promoted a third candidate in what >>>became an intense debate over the direction of the Republican Party.
>> Zippy is trying so hard to spin the massive hit the Dems took last >> night...
> what massive hit was that. We expected to lose the one governor race, > we narrowly lost the other one and picked up two congressional seats. > And one of those hasn't been won by a democrat [NY23] since the Civil > War.
> Take your meds. Your American Neoconfederate Party is still out in the > cold.
In fact, the 10th was expected to revert to Republican hands until Garamandi entered the race. It's a moderate district, and he is a progressive.
No matter how hard they try to spin it, the Republicans just didn't do all that well yesterday. On national races, they took two stinging defeats.
> This was your big comeback. You won a governorship no one thought you'd > lose, narrowly won another one you should have skated into and lost a > seat that you haven't lost since the Civil War?
> BWAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Let's not forget a progressive Democrat picking up a seat in central California that was originally assumed to be a GOP pickup....
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but have you seen a SINGLE right winger today who has actually mentioned Hoffman by name?
>> This was your big comeback. You won a governorship no one thought you'd >> lose, narrowly won another one you should have skated into and lost a >> seat that you haven't lost since the Civil War?
>> BWAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
> Let's not forget a progressive Democrat picking up a seat in central > California that was originally assumed to be a GOP pickup....
> Correct me if I'm mistaken, but have you seen a SINGLE right winger today > who has actually mentioned Hoffman by name?
Not so far. I haven't been scanning for it, but it stands to reason that our neoconfederate friends are feeling stinging pains for all their bluster. It was not a good night for the GOP.
On Nov 4, 11:31 am, Mr.B1ack <b...@barrk.net> wrote:
> I notice how you concentrate on the DNCs one > significant victory ... instead of its numerous > losses :-)
> The gild is off the DNC lily at this point - and > the GOP is *back* ... pretty damned quick too.
Not quite true, the GOP gained no voters from outside their wacko core. Democrats and independents stayed home. The Democratic party should have dumped the two governors in the primary. Guess the rule of thumb is "Better the bum we have, than the leader we might get."
Of course, you're happily jerking off with glee but as you pointed out months ago the reichtard way (which centrists follow) are driving the nation into a collapse last seen in 1989...the USSR.
There's joke about asses like you:
Three men see a man leading a prize-winning cow to market.
The first, an englishman, thinks, "How do I raise a cow like that?"
The second, a Frenchman, thinks, "How can I steal that cow?"
It use to be a Russian, but now it's you American conservatives/ looneytunarians, who thinks, "How do I kill that cow?"
You're so afraid someone might get something they didn't pay for that you're willing to destroy the entire system. There's something you fail to grasp: this isn't 1850 America anymore, asshole. The unemployed can't go farm someplace, medicine is no longer limited to nostrums and herbs. A heart transplant costs way more than the average citizen can afford.
I keep wondering why smart people can be so arrogantly stupid.
On Nov 4, 12:07 pm, "5265 Dead, 398 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:31:36 -0500, Mr.B1ack wrote: > > I notice how you concentrate on the DNCs one significant victory ... > > instead of its numerous losses :-)
> > The gild is off the DNC lily at this point - and the GOP is *back* ... > > pretty damned quick too.
> What numerous losses? They lost one governorship they were expected to > lose from the outset, and nearly won another one where just a month > earlier they had been trailing by 20 points.
> As for the DNC, a progressive won what had been a blue dog district in > California.
No, in one of the few instances, B1ackwater is correct. This election was a debacle. Unless Obama finds the balls to lead, he'll be an LBJ in 2012. What do I mean? LBJ had so little support in 1968, after a landslide victory in 1964, that he chose not to run for renomination than to suffer a crushing primary loss.
If Obama wants a second term, the only way to get it is to promise a complete investigation of the Bush/Cheney administration unless every liberal/progressive initiative is passed by Congress.
>Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right >By JEREMY W. PETERS >Published: November 3, 2009
>SARANAC LAKE, N.Y. — Democrats won a special election in New York State’s >northernmost Congressional district Tuesday, a setback for national >conservatives who heavily promoted a third candidate in what became an >intense debate over the direction of the Republican Party.
This piece is two thirds down NYT's home page. The third and last article in the Politics section, under the articles "Republicans' Hope Rekindled" and "In Virginia, McDonnell Ends Democrats' Streak."
FYI website placement and font size indicate importance.
>Leading conservative voices — including The Wall Street Journal’s >editorial page and The Weekly Standard and the talk show personalities >Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck — took on the Republican nominee, >Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava, who supports gay rights and abortion >rights and had embraced some Democratic economic policies like the >federal stimulus package. They labeled her as too liberal.
That's how Dems win--saboteurs spoiling Repubs. Just like Perot in 2002 and 2006.
Gandalf Grey wrote: >> Correct me if I'm mistaken, but have you seen a SINGLE right winger today >> who has actually mentioned Hoffman by name?
> Not so far. I haven't been scanning for it, but it stands to reason that > our neoconfederate friends are feeling stinging pains for all their bluster. > It was not a good night for the GOP.
The LA Times front page headline was "GOP wins send message to Obama".
>>>>Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right By JEREMY W. >>>>PETERS >>>>Published: November 3, 2009
>>>>SARANAC LAKE, N.Y. - Democrats won a special election in New York >>>>State's northernmost Congressional district Tuesday, a setback for >>>>national conservatives who heavily promoted a third candidate in what >>>>became an intense debate over the direction of the Republican Party.
>>> Zippy is trying so hard to spin the massive hit the Dems took last >>> night...
>> what massive hit was that. We expected to lose the one governor race, >> we narrowly lost the other one and picked up two congressional seats. >> And one of those hasn't been won by a democrat [NY23] since the Civil >> War.
>> Take your meds. Your American Neoconfederate Party is still out in the >> cold.
>In fact, the 10th was expected to revert to Republican hands until >Garamandi entered the race. It's a moderate district, and he is a >progressive.
>No matter how hard they try to spin it, the Republicans just didn't do >all that well yesterday. On national races, they took two stinging >defeats.
No matter how hard they try to spin it, the Democrats just didn't do all that well yesterday. They took two stinging defeats that Obama had invested huge effort in.... Hahahahaha
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Contrary to what liberals are whining, nobody owes you anything.
>> This was your big comeback. You won a governorship no one thought you'd >> lose, narrowly won another one you should have skated into and lost a >> seat that you haven't lost since the Civil War?
>> BWAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
> Let's not forget a progressive Democrat picking up a seat in central > California that was originally assumed to be a GOP pickup....
> Correct me if I'm mistaken, but have you seen a SINGLE right winger today > who has actually mentioned Hoffman by name?
I did hear a guy at the gas station bragging about what a great job Palin did in getting out the vote in NJ. I just laughed at him.
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:38:41 -0800, Phlip wrote: > Gandalf Grey wrote:
>>> Correct me if I'm mistaken, but have you seen a SINGLE right winger >>> today who has actually mentioned Hoffman by name?
>> Not so far. I haven't been scanning for it, but it stands to reason >> that our neoconfederate friends are feeling stinging pains for all >> their bluster. It was not a good night for the GOP.
> The LA Times front page headline was "GOP wins send message to Obama".
> Uh, was it, "keep up the good work"?
"Dad, please send money"?
AP, which is getting shabbier by the day, did the "GOP sends message" story. It didn't even mention the 23rd until about the sixth paragraph, despite it being the most hyped race of the election yesterday, and didn't mention Hoffman by name at all.
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:38:41 -0800, Phlip wrote:
>> Gandalf Grey wrote:
>>>> Correct me if I'm mistaken, but have you seen a SINGLE right winger >>>> today who has actually mentioned Hoffman by name?
>>> Not so far. I haven't been scanning for it, but it stands to reason >>> that our neoconfederate friends are feeling stinging pains for all >>> their bluster. It was not a good night for the GOP.
>> The LA Times front page headline was "GOP wins send message to Obama".
>> Uh, was it, "keep up the good work"?
> "Dad, please send money"?
> AP, which is getting shabbier by the day, did the "GOP sends message" > story. It didn't even mention the 23rd until about the sixth paragraph, > despite it being the most hyped race of the election yesterday, and > didn't mention Hoffman by name at all.
Was that loss more important than the socialist's loss of 2 state governorships zippy?
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:38:09 -0600, David Moffitt wrote: > "5265 Dead, 398 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com> wrote in message > news:UPydnZQDNKTJqW_XnZ2dnUVZ_rxi4p2d@posted.carinet... >> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:38:41 -0800, Phlip wrote:
>>> Gandalf Grey wrote:
>>>>> Correct me if I'm mistaken, but have you seen a SINGLE right winger >>>>> today who has actually mentioned Hoffman by name?
>>>> Not so far. I haven't been scanning for it, but it stands to reason >>>> that our neoconfederate friends are feeling stinging pains for all >>>> their bluster. It was not a good night for the GOP.
>>> The LA Times front page headline was "GOP wins send message to Obama".
>>> Uh, was it, "keep up the good work"?
>> "Dad, please send money"?
>> AP, which is getting shabbier by the day, did the "GOP sends message" >> story. It didn't even mention the 23rd until about the sixth >> paragraph, despite it being the most hyped race of the election >> yesterday, and didn't mention Hoffman by name at all.
> Was that loss more important than the socialist's loss of 2 state > governorships zippy?
>>>>>> Correct me if I'm mistaken, but have you seen a SINGLE right winger >>>>>> today who has actually mentioned Hoffman by name?
>>>>> Not so far. I haven't been scanning for it, but it stands to reason >>>>> that our neoconfederate friends are feeling stinging pains for all >>>>> their bluster. It was not a good night for the GOP.
>>>> The LA Times front page headline was "GOP wins send message to Obama".
>>>> Uh, was it, "keep up the good work"?
>>> "Dad, please send money"?
>>> AP, which is getting shabbier by the day, did the "GOP sends message" >>> story. It didn't even mention the 23rd until about the sixth >>> paragraph, despite it being the most hyped race of the election >>> yesterday, and didn't mention Hoffman by name at all.
>> Was that loss more important than the socialist's loss of 2 state >> governorships zippy?
>>>>>> Correct me if I'm mistaken, but have you seen a SINGLE right winger >>>>>> today who has actually mentioned Hoffman by name?
>>>>> Not so far. I haven't been scanning for it, but it stands to reason >>>>> that our neoconfederate friends are feeling stinging pains for all >>>>> their bluster. It was not a good night for the GOP.
>>>> The LA Times front page headline was "GOP wins send message to Obama".
>>>> Uh, was it, "keep up the good work"?
>>> "Dad, please send money"?
>>> AP, which is getting shabbier by the day, did the "GOP sends message" >>> story. It didn't even mention the 23rd until about the sixth >>> paragraph, despite it being the most hyped race of the election >>> yesterday, and didn't mention Hoffman by name at all.
>> Was that loss more important than the socialist's loss of 2 state >> governorships zippy?
>Yes.
Zippy has a really bad case of denial...
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Contrary to what liberals are whining, nobody owes you anything.
>>>>Conservative Loses Upstate House Race in Blow to Right By JEREMY W. >>>>PETERS >>>>Published: November 3, 2009
>>>>SARANAC LAKE, N.Y. - Democrats won a special election in New York >>>>State's northernmost Congressional district Tuesday, a setback for >>>>national conservatives who heavily promoted a third candidate in what >>>>became an intense debate over the direction of the Republican Party.
>>> Zippy is trying so hard to spin the massive hit the Dems took last >>> night...
>> what massive hit was that. We expected to lose the one governor race, >> we narrowly lost the other one and picked up two congressional seats. >> And one of those hasn't been won by a democrat [NY23] since the Civil >> War.
>> Take your meds. Your American Neoconfederate Party is still out in the >> cold.
>In fact, the 10th was expected to revert to Republican hands until >Garamandi entered the race. It's a moderate district, and he is a >progressive.
>No matter how hard they try to spin it, the Republicans just didn't do >all that well yesterday. On national races, they took two stinging >defeats.
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