Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
> Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 > was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson > of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of > the National Academy of Sciences.
> And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
The alpine glacier atop East Africa's Mt. Kilimanjaro, for example, is shrinking, yet scientific measurements show the mountain has been cooling for decades, and the temperature virtually never rises above freezing.
So why are Kilimanjaro's glaciers melting?
There are two main factors.
Recent deforestation at the base of the mountain means wind updrafts are drier than they have been in the past, resulting in less mountaintop snowfall to sustain the glacier.
Moreover, even though temperatures have been cooling for several decades, they rose dramatically as the Earth emerged from the Little Ice Age 100 to 200 years ago.
Kilimanjaro temperatures are still much warmer than during the Little Ice Age, and the large mountaintop glacier has yet to find its equilibrium since the Little Ice Age ended.
Kilimanjaro's glacier has been receding since the 1800s, long before humans were emitting significant amounts of carbon dioxide.
"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation."
Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville
Major Debacle wrote: > Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 > was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson > of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of > the National Academy of Sciences.
> And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
> Let the anti-science racist Republican loons begin their rant.
So now if you question man-made global warming (or is it climate change ?) you're a racist????
Loony, lefty, "logic".....
BTW - your race card lost it's power several months ago from over-use. As always - you demmies overplayed your hand.
Just say *NO* to Obama's Cap and Tax debacle....unless, of course, you want to contribute to *Al Gore, Inc* (checks, credit cards, food stamps, accepted....but cash is ALWAYS preferable ;^) LOL!!!!!
Al Gore pinky-swears that he invests all of the profits he's making off of this man-made Global Warming (or is it climate change?) silliness back to a climate protection group. Yah - that's the ticket!
> Major Debacle wrote: > > Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 > > was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson > > of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of > > the National Academy of Sciences.
> > And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
> > Let the anti-science racist Republican loons begin their rant.
> So now if you question man-made global warming (or is it climate change > ?) you're a racist????
> Loony, lefty, "logic".....
> BTW - your race card lost it's power several months ago from over-use. > As always - you demmies overplayed your hand.
> Just say *NO* to Obama's Cap and Tax debacle....unless, of course, you > want to contribute to *Al Gore, Inc* (checks, credit cards, food stamps, > accepted....but cash is ALWAYS preferable ;^) LOL!!!!!
> Al Gore pinky-swears that he invests all of the profits he's making off > of this man-made Global Warming (or is it climate change?) silliness > back to a climate protection group. Yah - that's the ticket!
> ROTFFLMMFAO!!!!!! :^D
ah, yes... mr. steel-trap mind. i think he just wanted to throw that in for good measure, the word "racist'. i mean it's hard not to rub it in, sometimes, y'know? also... (and maybe this explains it) stupidity, stubbornness, and close-mindedness usually go hand in hand with bigotry. but i don't think he meant anything by it.
fatass righties wrote: > On Nov 2, 11:08 pm, whofan <dgbre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Major Debacle wrote: >>> Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 >>> was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson >>> of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of >>> the National Academy of Sciences. >>> And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007. >>> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gSMlUekx3tKX_wCf9Io... >>> _________________________________________ >>> Let the anti-science racist Republican loons begin their rant. >> So now if you question man-made global warming (or is it climate change >> ?) you're a racist????
>> Loony, lefty, "logic".....
>> BTW - your race card lost it's power several months ago from over-use. >> As always - you demmies overplayed your hand.
>> Just say *NO* to Obama's Cap and Tax debacle....unless, of course, you >> want to contribute to *Al Gore, Inc* (checks, credit cards, food stamps, >> accepted....but cash is ALWAYS preferable ;^) LOL!!!!!
>> Al Gore pinky-swears that he invests all of the profits he's making off >> of this man-made Global Warming (or is it climate change?) silliness >> back to a climate protection group. Yah - that's the ticket!
>> ROTFFLMMFAO!!!!!! :^D
> ah, yes... > mr. steel-trap mind. > i think he just wanted to throw that in for good measure, the word > "racist'. > i mean it's hard not to rub it in, sometimes, y'know?
Hence, proving the point that the handy dandy race card is no longer useful to leftist kooks....due to overuse.
> also... > (and maybe this explains it) > stupidity, stubbornness, and close-mindedness usually go hand in hand > with bigotry.
Such as calling someone that questions "global warming" a racist????
On Nov 2, 11:42 pm, Major Debacle <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> wrote:
> Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 > was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson > of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of > the National Academy of Sciences.
> And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:42:17 -0800, Major Debacle <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> puked:
>Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 >was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson >of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of >the National Academy of Sciences.
>And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
> Kilimanjaro's glacier has been receding since the 1800s, long before > humans were emitting significant amounts of carbon dioxide.
Same thing has been going on in america. Nearly all our glaciers are much smaller than they were 200 years ago. Everyone agrees temps are warmer now than during the little ice age.
<boo.chillh...@gmail.com> wrote: >On Nov 2, 11:08 pm, whofan <dgbre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Major Debacle wrote: >> > Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 >> > was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson >> > of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of >> > the National Academy of Sciences.
>> > And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
>> > Let the anti-science racist Republican loons begin their rant.
>> So now if you question man-made global warming (or is it climate change >> ?) you're a racist????
>> Loony, lefty, "logic".....
>> BTW - your race card lost it's power several months ago from over-use. >> As always - you demmies overplayed your hand.
>> Just say *NO* to Obama's Cap and Tax debacle....unless, of course, you >> want to contribute to *Al Gore, Inc* (checks, credit cards, food stamps, >> accepted....but cash is ALWAYS preferable ;^) LOL!!!!!
>> Al Gore pinky-swears that he invests all of the profits he's making off >> of this man-made Global Warming (or is it climate change?) silliness >> back to a climate protection group. Yah - that's the ticket!
>> ROTFFLMMFAO!!!!!! :^D
>ah, yes... >mr. steel-trap mind. >i think he just wanted to throw that in for good measure, the word >"racist'. >i mean it's hard not to rub it in, sometimes, y'know? >also... >(and maybe this explains it) >stupidity, stubbornness, and close-mindedness usually go hand in hand >with bigotry. >but i don't think he meant anything by it.
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:42:17 -0800, Major Debacle wrote: > Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 > was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson > of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of > the National Academy of Sciences.
> And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
> Let the anti-science racist Republican loons begin their rant.
So one mountain determines the climate for the globe? Global climate change is NOT the same as global warming. Global climate change has been occurring for as long as there was climate.
> fatass righties wrote: > > On Nov 2, 11:08 pm, whofan <dgbre...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Major Debacle wrote: > >>> Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 > >>> was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson > >>> of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of > >>> the National Academy of Sciences. > >>> And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007. > >>>http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gSMlUekx3tKX_wCf9Io... > >>> _________________________________________ > >>> Let the anti-science racist Republican loons begin their rant. > >> So now if you question man-made global warming (or is it climate change > >> ?) you're a racist????
> >> Loony, lefty, "logic".....
> >> BTW - your race card lost it's power several months ago from over-use. > >> As always - you demmies overplayed your hand.
> >> Just say *NO* to Obama's Cap and Tax debacle....unless, of course, you > >> want to contribute to *Al Gore, Inc* (checks, credit cards, food stamps, > >> accepted....but cash is ALWAYS preferable ;^) LOL!!!!!
> >> Al Gore pinky-swears that he invests all of the profits he's making off > >> of this man-made Global Warming (or is it climate change?) silliness > >> back to a climate protection group. Yah - that's the ticket!
> >> ROTFFLMMFAO!!!!!! :^D
> > ah, yes... > > mr. steel-trap mind. > > i think he just wanted to throw that in for good measure, the word > > "racist'. > > i mean it's hard not to rub it in, sometimes, y'know?
> Hence, proving the point that the handy dandy race card is no longer > useful to leftist kooks....due to overuse.
> > also... > > (and maybe this explains it) > > stupidity, stubbornness, and close-mindedness usually go hand in hand > > with bigotry.
> Such as calling someone that questions "global warming" a racist????
> > but i don't think he meant anything by it.
> ;^D- Hide quoted text -
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hahaha... SAYY... you really NAILED it, didn't you? hahahahahaha....
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:42:17 -0800, Major Debacle > <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> puked:
> >Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 > >was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson > >of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of > >the National Academy of Sciences.
> >And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:42:17 -0800, Major Debacle wrote: > > Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 > > was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson > > of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of > > the National Academy of Sciences.
> > And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
> > Let the anti-science racist Republican loons begin their rant.
> So one mountain determines the climate for the globe? Global climate > change is NOT the same as global warming. Global climate change has been > occurring for as long as there was climate.
good for you, pal. pointing out all the glaring errors, there. nobody knew that shit before. you have an mba or something?
On Nov 2, 8:42 pm, Major Debacle <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> wrote:
> Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 > was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson > of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of > the National Academy of Sciences.
> And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
> Let the anti-science racist Republican loons begin their rant.
I'm still waiting for the coming Ice Age the left promised me back in the 70's...
I bought a Sno-Jet with my paper route money, just for the occasion....
Then the leftists said we'd run out of gas, so I hoarded that in an underground tank so I'd have fuel for my Sno-Jet when the Ice Age came....
Tick tock tick tock....
And you wonder why nobody gives a shit what you say now?
Jesus Christ, if it were up to you fuckheads and your constant attempts to impose your "morals" on the rest of us we'd all be wearing Mao suits and carrying around buckets of dirt by now.
You're worse than those Jehovah's Witnesses who keep canvassing the neighborhood.
<sur...@stopassaultnow.net> wrote: >On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:42:17 -0800, Major Debacle wrote:
>> Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 >> was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson >> of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of >> the National Academy of Sciences.
>> And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
>> Let the anti-science racist Republican loons begin their rant.
>So one mountain determines the climate for the globe? Global climate >change is NOT the same as global warming. Global climate change has been >occurring for as long as there was climate.
It has been know for more than 100 years that deforestation in the region reduced precip, so the cause is less snowfall, not AGW.
> On Nov 2, 8:42 pm, Major Debacle <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> > wrote:
> > Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 > > was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson > > of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of > > the National Academy of Sciences.
> > And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
> > Let the anti-science racist Republican loons begin their rant.
> I'm still waiting for the coming Ice Age the left promised me back in > the 70's...
> I bought a Sno-Jet with my paper route money, just for the > occasion....
> Then the leftists said we'd run out of gas, so I hoarded that in an > underground tank so I'd have fuel for my Sno-Jet when the Ice Age > came....
> Tick tock tick tock....
> And you wonder why nobody gives a shit what you say now?
> Jesus Christ, if it were up to you fuckheads and your constant > attempts to impose your "morals" on the rest of us we'd all be > wearing Mao suits and carrying around buckets of dirt by now.
> You're worse than those Jehovah's Witnesses who keep canvassing the > neighborhood.
you don't care for the Witnesses? well... thar yuh go agin... i personally think the mormons need to straighten up. but the REAL problem is that phoney-baloney bunch called "the family" that runs those phoney-baloney "prayer breakfasts" for all the phoney- baloney pol/dupes with potomac fever: that think they're "chosen" and "above it all" and better than the rest of us because they're "elect". ha ha well? haven't most of them been "elected"? hahahahahah.... that's what "the family" tells them.
>On Nov 3, 8:00Êam, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote: >> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:42:17 -0800, Major Debacle >> <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> puked:
>> >Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 >> >was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson >> >of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of >> >the National Academy of Sciences.
>> >And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
>> >Let the anti-science racist Republican loons begin their rant.
>> This must be the cause of the lack of sunspot activity... >> -- >> lab~rat Ê>:-) >> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
>ever read that hemingway story? >the snows of kilimanjaro? >or do you only scarf up books by palin and beck? >(by the dozen) >just curious.
I'm not a big fan of fiction. I've recently been rereading some E. Poe, ironically, but usually I stick to sciency-type shit. Like how the snowcaps cause the lack of sunspot activity. Ya know, if we don't straighten up our act, the sun's gonna go out... -- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
>On Nov 3, 2:49Êpm, Michael Dobony <sur...@stopassaultnow.net> wrote: >> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:42:17 -0800, Major Debacle wrote: >> > Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 >> > was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson >> > of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of >> > the National Academy of Sciences.
>> > And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
>> > Let the anti-science racist Republican loons begin their rant.
>> So one mountain determines the climate for the globe? ÊGlobal climate >> change is NOT the same as global warming. Global climate change has been >> occurring for as long as there was climate.
>good for you, pal. >pointing out all the glaring errors, there. >nobody knew that shit before. >you have an mba or something?
A MBA? Hey, I have a NBA, think that will get me on the presidential bastardball court? -- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:42:17 -0800, Major Debacle wrote :
> Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 > was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson > of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of > the National Academy of Sciences.
> And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
Sirius wrote: > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:42:17 -0800, Major Debacle wrote :
>> Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 >> was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson >> of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of >> the National Academy of Sciences.
>> And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
On Nov 2, 8:42 pm, Major Debacle <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> wrote:
> Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 > was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson > of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of > the National Academy of Sciences.
> And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
On Nov 6, 5:30 pm, Major Debacle <major_debacle@The_Pentagon.invalid> wrote:
> Sirius wrote: > > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:42:17 -0800, Major Debacle wrote :
> >> Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 > >> was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson > >> of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of > >> the National Academy of Sciences.
•• So what does that matter? You are a major [more likely - minor] debacle. Now if Thompson were to describe the condition of mountains one hundred years or a million years ago and particularly Kilimanjaro, I would be interested because that is his expertise. Thompson is a fish out water who got a grant to investigate global warming.
•• Your debacle begins with an overly broad field. We know that as many, if not more, glaciers are growing not shrinking. I posted a few minutes ago a paper that tells us why.
> >> And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.
•• If Thompson was not in the field for several years and measuring, then the paper would need to be soft to be useful.
> I don't suppose it "proves" anything. It is merely an observation.
•• No it proves you are a naive fool.
–– –– . In real science the burden of proof is always . on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far . neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one . iota of valid data for global warming nor have . they provided data that climate change is being . effected by commerce and industry, and not by . natural phenomena.
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