The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
By Alex Koppelman
Unfortunately, it seems that whether it's on the Internet or in real life, Godwin's Law always finds a way to prove itself again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
People manage to use Nazi and Holocaust references in the most poorly considered of ways, as if they're unaware of the true horror that was the slaughter of millions of innocent people.
That sort of thing has been happening all too frequently during protests against Democratic healthcare reform plans, and one of the more shocking examples was on display at the protest on Capitol Hill Thursday: A banner that featured a picture of naked, emaciated bodies stacked in a pile, with text reading, "National Socialist Health Care: Dachau, Germany -- 1945." http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/1.jpg
Now, someone with credibility on the issue that's all too real has spoken out against these comparisons.
Elie Wiesel, a Holocaust survivor and author, put out a statement through his foundation's Twitter account.
It reads simply, "Elie Wiesel on the GOP Tea Party's anti-Semitism and Holocaust comparisons: 'This kind of political hatred is indecent and disgusting.'"
> The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right > are making to genocide
> By Alex Koppelman
> Unfortunately, it seems that whether it's on the Internet or in real > life, Godwin's Law always finds a way to prove itself again. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
> People manage to use Nazi and Holocaust references in the most poorly > considered of ways, as if they're unaware of the true horror that was > the slaughter of millions of innocent people.
> That sort of thing has been happening all too frequently during > protests against Democratic healthcare reform plans, and one of the > more shocking examples was on display at the protest on Capitol Hill > Thursday: A banner that featured a picture of naked, emaciated bodies > stacked in a pile, with text reading, "National Socialist Health Care: > Dachau, Germany -- 1945." > http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/1.jpg
> Now, someone with credibility on the issue that's all too real has > spoken out against these comparisons.
> Elie Wiesel, a Holocaust survivor and author, put out a statement > through his foundation's Twitter account.
> It reads simply, "Elie Wiesel on the GOP Tea Party's anti-Semitism and > Holocaust comparisons: 'This kind of political hatred is indecent and > disgusting.'"
Don't be fooled, there were a lot of Jews protesting ObamaCare in Washington and around the country. The Dumbocrats are just playing the Hate Speech card.
Wiesel: "In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 persons to their deaths each day. I was always in the last hundred near the gate. They stopped. Why?" - "Author, Teacher, Witness," Time magazine, March 18, 1985, p. 79.
According to a booklet obtained from the Buchenwald Memorial Site, which was written by Sabine and Harry Stein, "A total of 11,000 Jews lost their lives in Buchenwald. Out of the 13,969 inmates who died in 1945, there were 7,000 Jews."
Wiesel reports that at Auschwitz there was one flaming ditch for the adults and another one for babies. He writes:
"Not far from us, flames were leaping from a ditch, gigantic flames. They were burning something. A lorry drew up at the pit and delivered its load -- little children. Babies! Yes, I saw it -- saw it with my own eyes ... Those children in the flames."
He does indeed say that the Germans executed Jews by fire; by throwing them alive into flaming ditches
A little farther on there was another ditch with gigantic flames where the victims suffered "slow agony in the flames." Wiesel's column was led by the Germans to within "three steps" of the ditch, then to "two steps." "Two steps from the pit we were ordered to turn to the left and made to go into a barracks."
Night (Avon/Discus). See esp. pp. 41, 42, 43, 44, 79, 93.
Today there is no longer a single historian who believes that Jews were burned alive.
Regarding Babi Yar, a place in Ukraine where the Germans executed Soviet citizens, among them Jews, Wiesel wrote:
"Later, I learn from a witness that, for month after month, the ground never stopped trembling; and that, from time to time, geysers of blood spurted from it." - Paroles d'étranger (Editions du Seuil, 1982), p. 86
The ground trembled?? Blood geysers?? How the fuck can people believe bullshit like that???
The booklet written by Sabine and Harry Stein, which was available from the Memorial Site in 1999, states that, in addition to the number of recorded deaths at Buchenwald, "More than 8,000 Soviet prisoners of war were shot in the stable. An estimated number of 1,100 people were executed in the crematorium and an estimated number of between 12,000 and 15,000 people were dead upon arrival from the camps in the east or fell victim to the evacuation marches. This gives a total number of approximately 56,000 persons killed."
The first U.S. Army Intelligence report, dated April 24, 1945, put the Buchenwald death toll at 32,705.
Conspicuously absent in the Buchenwald museum in was any evidence of the atrocities that were so widely publicized after the camp was liberated.
The International Tracing Service of Arolsen, an affiliate of the Red Cross, released a report in 1984 which said that the number of documented deaths in Buchenwald was 20,671
The horrendous death toll during the first two months of 1945 was due to a typhus epidemic in the camp. During the same time period, there were also severe epidemics in all the other major concentration camps in Germany.
Typhus is spread by lice and prisoners coming into Germany from the death camps in what is now Poland were the carriers of the lice. The worst epidemic of all was at Bergen-Belsen where 35,000 prisoners died in March and the first two weeks of April 1945.
Yes, only a radical Jew, full of self-delusion and perverse "specialness" could turn a commentary about the plummeting birthrates of Germans and all European peoples into a chance to beat the drums of his own persecution, as if World War II is only a footnote when compared to the fairy tale holy writ that is the "Holocaust" story, bent and stretched and fashioned Hollywood-style by the liar Elie Wiesel until it resembles more an Old Testament plague than anything that could have actually occurred in the real world, where the rules of science still apply.
There is no evidence whatsoever to prop up the story of "gas chambers" that this Jew whinnies and crows about, but there is ample and irrefutable evidence proving that politically organized Jews do hate white European peoples and have been the architects of the policies now used to bring about our genocide. There is no smoking gun when it comes to the "Holocaust" but there are a multitude of smoldering weapons and lots of gun powder residue revealing the ethnicity of the tribe of people who have a long history of hatred for white people, Aryan people, if I may be so bold. They, the radical Jews, do, without a doubt, stand to benefit from our extinction.
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Sept 15, 2007
Eva Herman, David Duke and Thus Speaketh Grimm
By Patrick Grimm
Eva Herman is an attractive blonde-haired, blue-eyed Aryan-looking (Oi vey! The Jewish horrors!) talk show host who has lost her job in the last few days for merely bringing up the fact that the National Socialist government under Adolf Hitler encouraged German motherhood through social policy and economic incentives, something that these media Jews hate, almost as much as they hate Jesus Christ and not flying in first class. Herman was quoted as stating in Der Spiegel magazine that "It was a gruesome time with a totally crazy and highly dangerous leader who led the Germans into ruin as we all know. But there was at the time also something good, and that is the values, that is the children, that is the families, that is a togetherness - it was all abolished, there was nothing left." [1]
First off, what other country's citizens would be forced by the proprieties of the Jewish media powers-that-be to qualify any statement about a past leader of their nation the Jews don't like by referring to him as "totally crazy and highly dangerous"? After all, in the former Soviet Union, past Communist leaders such as Stalin and Lenin, who were accused of far greater excesses than Hitler, are often referred to with fondness by those citizens burned by the present economic realities of Jewish oligarchic power and the greatest plundering of a nation in history.
Right off the bat, we see that the Jews determine the rules of the dialectic, and history and memory will both be savaged to serve their interests. The fact that Hitler revived the economy of Germany after pulling down the Jewish banking powers and bypassing them completely through bartering with other countries can never be praised. Why? Because the Jews didn't like Hitler and Jewish lives are infinitely valuable. Even Gentile lives expended saving Jews or protecting them, are footnotes, scribblings in the margins of historiography.
David Duke discussed this little brouhaha in his most recent commentary. As is often the case, Dr. Duke puts things succinctly into perspective: "People sometimes ask why I so frequently bring up the Jewish extremist issue in almost every discussion. The Spiegel article shows how they themselves constantly use this issue to make Europeans feel guilty about our desire for our own survival. Spiegel quotes a `Holocaust survivor' who said that Herman's comments were, `The worst thing I have heard for a long time.' Somehow, `gas chambers' are inserted to an article about the need to strengthen the European family and increase the European birthrate.
I do believe that hearing about European concern for survival of the European people is the worst thing that this extremist Jew has heard in a long time. Unlike the Jewish extremists, though, we here at DavidDuke.com are not hypocrites. We believe that Jews have a right to preserve their people, but we also believe that so do we! How ironic that extremist Jews support the terrorist, Apartheid State of Israel, and yet constantly condemn Europeans who simply want the survival of the European people and civilization? The media constantly support the idea of a Jewish State for the Jewish people, but condemn the idea of a German State for the German people and they would condemn even a European Union for the European people!" [2]
Yes, only a radical Jew, full of self-delusion and perverse "specialness" could turn a commentary about the plummeting birthrates of Germans and all European peoples into a chance to beat the drums of his own persecution, as if World War II is only a footnote when compared to the fairy tale holy writ that is the "Holocaust" story, bent and stretched and fashioned Hollywood-style by the liar Elie Wiesel until it resembles more an Old Testament plague than anything that could have actually occurred in the real world, where the rules of science still apply.
There is no evidence whatsoever to prop up the story of "gas chambers" that this Jew whinnies and crows about, but there is ample and irrefutable evidence proving that politically organized Jews do hate white European peoples and have been the architects of the policies now used to bring about our genocide. There is no smoking gun when it comes to the "Holocaust" but there are a multitude of smoldering weapons and lots of gun powder residue revealing the ethnicity of the tribe of people who have a long history of hatred for white people, Aryan people, if I may be so bold. They, the radical Jews, do, without a doubt, stand to benefit from our extinction.
But Eva Herman is the sacrificial lamb, albeit a pretty one, an example made and a human media message sent to other whites who dare to leave the corner of fearfulness and silence that we have been painted into by those Jews holding the rollers and brushes. Germany, like most of the European world, lives under punishing Jewish Bolshevik rule, their thwarted and compromised media even more firmly "locked-down" than it was before World War II, their free speech silenced and their rights as citizens given over to Jewish tyrants. Instead of the positive economic incentives of a National Socialist government, pushing motherhood, stable families and a strong economy free of Jewish avarice, the education system works to dissolve German families and failing that, to pervert and sicken them.
In an article entitled "German Government Publication Promotes Incestuous Pedophilia as Healthy Sex Ed" John-Henry Westen writes:
"Booklets from a subsidiary of the German government's Ministry for Family Affairs encourage parents to sexually massage their children as young as 1 to 3 years of age. Two 40-page booklets entitled "Love, Body and Playing Doctor" by the German Federal Health Education Center (Bundeszentrale für gesundheitliche Aufklärung - BZgA) are aimed at parents - the first addressing children from 1-3 and the other children from 4-6 years of age.
"Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters. Their caresses too seldom pertain to these regions, while this is the only way the girls can develop a sense of pride in their sex," reads the booklet regarding 1-3 year olds. The authors rationalize, "The child touches all parts of their father's body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same." [3]
Hmmm, it would seem that any observant individual who sees the world- wide pattern of Jewish behavior can probably hazard a guess as to the ethnic identity of the authors of these "helpful" little sex ed manuals provided to German parents. Yep, back in the Weimar Republic, you don't know how unlucky you are! But be that as it may, these manuals make one thing as clear as a bell. The Jewish supremacists hate white people. Gas chambers are portrayed as a ghastly genocidal crime against humanity, but dysfunctional and disintegrated European families, evaporated white genotypes and the "death of whiteness" are pleasurable eventualities, savory scenarios to the powers of international Zionism. They believe that our race is the only bulwark against their complete domination of the globe and they are right. We can stop them if we can only survive, only reproduce. Thus speaketh Grimm, "we must do so."
Eva Herman is another victim of the Jews. Why was she chosen to be served up bloodlessly, though blatantly, on the altar of media sacrifice? That's simple. She is a rarity in Europe, an enlightened, racially aware and traditionalist white woman, fully cognizant of what is necessary to save the German people (and all European people) from the quandary they are in because of low birth rates and the havoc wreaked by a media and establishment with alien and incompatibly exotic values and folkways. Herman is an anomaly in a media cowed and docile before the Jewish ideology of multiculturalism, or more accurately, multiracialism. This ideology is having the desired effect on both Europe and America. It is sparking fragmentation, is leading to displacement and finally will end with replacement. To have any person speak against it will only unite and dynamize the masses, who are firmly opposed to these Jewish-instigated policies.
David Duke said in his article that he is often asked why he so frequently brings up the "Jewish extremist issue" when discussing the crisis of European mankind. I am often asked the same thing, even by friends who basically agree with me. It's an apt question and one answered in full by the preposterous firing of Eva Herman. So many of us "bring up" Jewish extremism because it is the biggest obstacle to the liberation of Europeans and European-Americans. Our freedom will never be bought
Yes, only a radical Jew, full of self-delusion and perverse "specialness" could turn a commentary about the plummeting birthrates of Germans and all European peoples into a chance to beat the drums of his own persecution, as if World War II is only a footnote when compared to the fairy tale holy writ that is the "Holocaust" story, bent and stretched and fashioned Hollywood-style by the liar Elie Wiesel until it resembles more an Old Testament plague than anything that could have actually occurred in the real world, where the rules of science still apply.
There is no evidence whatsoever to prop up the story of "gas chambers" that this Jew whinnies and crows about, but there is ample and irrefutable evidence proving that politically organized Jews do hate white European peoples and have been the architects of the policies now used to bring about our genocide. There is no smoking gun when it comes to the "Holocaust" but there are a multitude of smoldering weapons and lots of gun powder residue revealing the ethnicity of the tribe of people who have a long history of hatred for white people, Aryan people, if I may be so bold. They, the radical Jews, do, without a doubt, stand to benefit from our extinction.
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Report of the International Committee of the Red Cross on its Activities during the Second World War, Geneva, 1948.
There is not a shred of evidence, for example, that "a gas chamber was in the process of being built at Dachau, but it was never completed." (See "The Second Leuchter Report" by American gas chamber expert Fred Leuchter in The Journal of Historical Review, Fall 1990.) There is likewise no proof that "mentally and physically handicapped people were killed" by gas at any of the four "institutions" Wiesenthal mentions.
This US Army photo was taken at Dachau on April 30, 1945, one day after the camp's capture. It shows a GI standing in front of a door marked with a skull and crossbones and the words "Caution! Gas! Life danger! Do not open!" According to the official caption, "these chambers were used by Nazi guards for killing prisoners of the infamous Dachau concentration camp." In fact, this is a small disinfection gas chamber used for delousing clothes. It was never used to kill people. For several decades, this photo has been widely reproduced to help keep alive the notorious Dachau "gas chamber" myth. (US Army photo SC 206194.)
ACTUALLY -- AND CONTRARY TO HIS HIGHLY FLATTERING PUBLIC IMAGE -- THE RENOWNED "NAZI HUNTER" HAS A WELL-DOCUMENTED BUT LITTLE-KNOWN RECORD OF DECEIT, MENDACITY AND PREVARICATION. SOME HIGHLIGHTS:
Wiesenthal repeatedly lied about his alleged role in locating Adolf Eichmann, was consistently wrong about Josef Mengele, and falsely accused Polish-American Frank Walus of having murdered Jews in Poland as a Gestapo official. Wiesenthal has absurdly charged that the Germans exterminated Jews in "electrocution chambers," and that they manufactured bars of soap from the bodies of murdered Jews. His deception about his own wartime activities prompted Austrian Chancellor Bruno Kreisky (himself of Jewish ancestry) to accuse the "Nazi hunter" of having collaborated with his wartime oppressors. (For details about Wiesenthal's record, see: M. Weber, "Simon Wiesenthal: Bogus Nazi Hunter," The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1989-90.)
THE CANADIAN JEWISH NEWS, Jan. 30, 1992
Wannsee's importance rejected London (JTA) - An Israeli Holocaust scholar has debunked the Wannsee Conference, at which top Nazi officials are said to have gathered at a villa in a Berlin suburb in 1942 to draw the blueprints of the "Final Solution."
According to Prof. Yehuda Bauer (photo) of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, Wannsee was a meeting, "but hardly a conference", and "little of what was said there was executed in detail."
"The public still repeats, time after time, the silly story that at Wannsee the extermination of the Jews was arrived at."
"I have never held myself out to be a Holocaust expert, nor have I written books about what is now called the Holocaust."
"I have done my best to prepare the case that follows, but I respectfully submit that I do not have any duty to become an expert on the Holocaust, my Lord."
"I have never claimed to be a Holocaust historian. As I have said, I have no written no book about the Holocaust. I have written no article about it. If I have spoken about it, it is usually because somebody has asked me a question, I have been questioned about it. On such occasions I have emphasised my lack of expertise and I have expatiated only upon those areas with which I am familiar."
"Now, you heard me say in my opening statement, Mr Rampton, that I am not an expert on the Holocaust. What I would now say would be a figure without any value whatsoever."
"Q. [Rampton] What you do you say about Sobibor, Treblinka, Belzec and Chelmno?"
"A. [Irving] Nothing at all. I am not an expert."
RJ.
Besides the condensation below you can exam the various reviews of the RED CROSS covering WW2 during the time of the jews claimed astrocities commited by the Germans.
Inmates Released
More than 200,000 prisoners were transferred from Auschwitz to other camps, and about 8,000 were in the camp when it was liberated by Soviet forces. In addition, about 1,500 prisoners who had served their sentences were released, and returned to their home countries. [16] If Auschwitz had actually been a top secret extermination center, would the Germans have released inmates who "knew" what was happening there? Himmler Orders Death Rate Reduced
THE JEWS AND THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS: A FACTUAL APPRAISAL BY THE RED CROSS.
There is one survey of the Jewish question in Europe during World War Two and the conditions of Germany's concentration camps which is almost unique in its honesty and objectivity, the three-volume Report of the International Committee of the Red Cross on its Activities during the Second World War, Geneva, 1948.
This comprehensive account from an entirely neutral source incorporated and expanded the findings of two previous works: Documents sur l'activité du CICR en faveur des civils détenus dans les camps de concentration en Allemagne 1939-1945 (Geneva, 1946), and Inter Arma Caritas: the Work of the ICRC during the Second World War (Geneva, 1947). The team of authors, headed by Frédéric Siordet, explained in the opening pages of the Report that their object, in the tradition of the Red Cross, had been strict political neutrality, and herein lies its great value.
The ICRC successfully applied the 1929 Geneva military convention in order to gain access to civilian internees held in Central and Western Europe by the Germany authorities. By contrast, the ICRC was unable to gain any access to the Soviet Union, which had failed to ratify the Convention. The millions of civilian and military internees held in the USSR, whose conditions were known to be by far the worst, were completely cut off from any international contact or supervision.
The Red Cross Report is of value in that it first clarifies the legitimate circumstances under which Jews were detained in concentration camps, i.e. as enemy aliens. In describing the two categories of civilian internees, the Report distinguishes the second type as "Civilians deported on administrative grounds (in German, "Schutzhäftlinge"), who were arrested for political or racial motives because their presence was considered a danger to the State or the occupation forces" (Vol. 111, p. 73). These persons, it continues, "were placed on the same footing as persons arrested or imprisoned under common law for security reasons." (P.74).
The Report admits that the Germans were at first reluctant to permit supervision by the Red Cross of people detained on grounds relating to security, but by the latter part of 1942, the ICRC obtained important concessions from Germany. They were permitted to distribute food parcels to major concentration camps in Germany from August 1942, and "from February 1943 onwards this concession was extended to all other camps and prisons" (Vol. 111, p. 78). The ICRC soon established contact with camp commandants and launched a food relief programme which continued to function until the last months of 1945, letters of thanks for which came pouring in from Jewish internees.
Red Cross Recipients Were Jews The Report states that "As many as 9,000 parcels were packed daily. From the autumn of 1943 until May 1945, about 1,112,000 parcels with a total weight of 4,500 tons were sent off to the concentration camps" (Vol. III, p. 80). In addition to food, these contained clothing and pharmaceutical supplies. "Parcels were sent to Dachau, Buchenwald, Sangerhausen, Sachsenhausen, Oranienburg, Flossenburg, Landsberg-am-Lech, Flöha, Ravensbrück, Hamburg-Neuengamme, Mauthausen, Theresienstadt, Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, to camps near Vienna and in Central and Southern Germany. The principal recipients were Belgians, Dutch, French, Greeks, Italians, Norwegians, Poles and stateless Jews" (Vol. III, p. 83).
In the course of the war, "The Committee was in a position to transfer and distribute in the form of relief supplies over twenty million Swiss francs collected by Jewish welfare organisations throughout the world, in particular by the American Joint Distribution Committee of New York" (Vol. I, p. 644). This latter organisation was permitted by the German Government to maintain offices in Berlin until the American entry into the war. The ICRC complained that obstruction of their
Yes, only a radical Jew, full of self-delusion and perverse "specialness" could turn a commentary about the plummeting birthrates of Germans and all European peoples into a chance to beat the drums of his own persecution, as if World War II is only a footnote when compared to the fairy tale holy writ that is the "Holocaust" story, bent and stretched and fashioned Hollywood-style by the liar Elie Wiesel until it resembles more an Old Testament plague than anything that could have actually occurred in the real world, where the rules of science still apply.
There is no evidence whatsoever to prop up the story of "gas chambers" that this Jew whinnies and crows about, but there is ample and irrefutable evidence proving that politically organized Jews do hate white European peoples and have been the architects of the policies now used to bring about our genocide. There is no smoking gun when it comes to the "Holocaust" but there are a multitude of smoldering weapons and lots of gun powder residue revealing the ethnicity of the tribe of people who have a long history of hatred for white people, Aryan people, if I may be so bold. They, the radical Jews, do, without a doubt, stand to benefit from our extinction.
===================================
Report of the International Committee of the Red Cross on its Activities during the Second World War, Geneva, 1948.
There is not a shred of evidence, for example, that "a gas chamber was in the process of being built at Dachau, but it was never completed." (See "The Second Leuchter Report" by American gas chamber expert Fred Leuchter in The Journal of Historical Review, Fall 1990.) There is likewise no proof that "mentally and physically handicapped people were killed" by gas at any of the four "institutions" Wiesenthal mentions.
This US Army photo was taken at Dachau on April 30, 1945, one day after the camp's capture. It shows a GI standing in front of a door marked with a skull and crossbones and the words "Caution! Gas! Life danger! Do not open!" According to the official caption, "these chambers were used by Nazi guards for killing prisoners of the infamous Dachau concentration camp." In fact, this is a small disinfection gas chamber used for delousing clothes. It was never used to kill people. For several decades, this photo has been widely reproduced to help keep alive the notorious Dachau "gas chamber" myth. (US Army photo SC 206194.)
ACTUALLY -- AND CONTRARY TO HIS HIGHLY FLATTERING PUBLIC IMAGE -- THE RENOWNED "NAZI HUNTER" HAS A WELL-DOCUMENTED BUT LITTLE-KNOWN RECORD OF DECEIT, MENDACITY AND PREVARICATION. SOME HIGHLIGHTS:
Wiesenthal repeatedly lied about his alleged role in locating Adolf Eichmann, was consistently wrong about Josef Mengele, and falsely accused Polish-American Frank Walus of having murdered Jews in Poland as a Gestapo official. Wiesenthal has absurdly charged that the Germans exterminated Jews in "electrocution chambers," and that they manufactured bars of soap from the bodies of murdered Jews. His deception about his own wartime activities prompted Austrian Chancellor Bruno Kreisky (himself of Jewish ancestry) to accuse the "Nazi hunter" of having collaborated with his wartime oppressors. (For details about Wiesenthal's record, see: M. Weber, "Simon Wiesenthal: Bogus Nazi Hunter," The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1989-90.)
THE CANADIAN JEWISH NEWS, Jan. 30, 1992
Wannsee's importance rejected London (JTA) - An Israeli Holocaust scholar has debunked the Wannsee Conference, at which top Nazi officials are said to have gathered at a villa in a Berlin suburb in 1942 to draw the blueprints of the "Final Solution."
According to Prof. Yehuda Bauer (photo) of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, Wannsee was a meeting, "but hardly a conference", and "little of what was said there was executed in detail."
"The public still repeats, time after time, the silly story that at Wannsee the extermination of the Jews was arrived at."
"I have never held myself out to be a Holocaust expert, nor have I written books about what is now called the Holocaust."
"I have done my best to prepare the case that follows, but I respectfully submit that I do not have any duty to become an expert on the Holocaust, my Lord."
"I have never claimed to be a Holocaust historian. As I have said, I have no written no book about the Holocaust. I have written no article about it. If I have spoken about it, it is usually because somebody has asked me a question, I have been questioned about it. On such occasions I have emphasised my lack of expertise and I have expatiated only upon those areas with which I am familiar."
"Now, you heard me say in my opening statement, Mr Rampton, that I am not an expert on the Holocaust. What I would now say would be a figure without any value whatsoever."
"Q. [Rampton] What you do you say about Sobibor, Treblinka, Belzec and Chelmno?"
"A. [Irving] Nothing at all. I am not an expert."
RJ.
Besides the condensation below you can exam the various reviews of the RED CROSS covering WW2 during the time of the jews claimed astrocities commited by the Germans.
Inmates Released
More than 200,000 prisoners were transferred from Auschwitz to other camps, and about 8,000 were in the camp when it was liberated by Soviet forces. In addition, about 1,500 prisoners who had served their sentences were released, and returned to their home countries. [16] If Auschwitz had actually been a top secret extermination center, would the Germans have released inmates who "knew" what was happening there? Himmler Orders Death Rate Reduced
THE JEWS AND THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS: A FACTUAL APPRAISAL BY THE RED CROSS.
There is one survey of the Jewish question in Europe during World War Two and the conditions of Germany's concentration camps which is almost unique in its honesty and objectivity, the three-volume Report of the International Committee of the Red Cross on its Activities during the Second World War, Geneva, 1948.
This comprehensive account from an entirely neutral source incorporated and expanded the findings of two previous works: Documents sur l'activité du CICR en faveur des civils détenus dans les camps de concentration en Allemagne 1939-1945 (Geneva, 1946), and Inter Arma Caritas: the Work of the ICRC during the Second World War (Geneva, 1947). The team of authors, headed by Frédéric Siordet, explained in the opening pages of the Report that their object, in the tradition of the Red Cross, had been strict political neutrality, and herein lies its great value.
The ICRC successfully applied the 1929 Geneva military convention in order to gain access to civilian internees held in Central and Western Europe by the Germany authorities. By contrast, the ICRC was unable to gain any access to the Soviet Union, which had failed to ratify the Convention. The millions of civilian and military internees held in the USSR, whose conditions were known to be by far the worst, were completely cut off from any international contact or supervision.
The Red Cross Report is of value in that it first clarifies the legitimate circumstances under which Jews were detained in concentration camps, i.e. as enemy aliens. In describing the two categories of civilian internees, the Report distinguishes the second type as "Civilians deported on administrative grounds (in German, "Schutzhäftlinge"), who were arrested for political or racial motives because their presence was considered a danger to the State or the occupation forces" (Vol. 111, p. 73). These persons, it continues, "were placed on the same footing as persons arrested or imprisoned under common law for security reasons." (P.74).
The Report admits that the Germans were at first reluctant to permit supervision by the Red Cross of people detained on grounds relating to security, but by the latter part of 1942, the ICRC obtained important concessions from Germany. They were permitted to distribute food parcels to major concentration camps in Germany from August 1942, and "from February 1943 onwards this concession was extended to all other camps and prisons" (Vol. 111, p. 78). The ICRC soon established contact with camp commandants and launched a food relief programme which continued to function until the last months of 1945, letters of thanks for which came pouring in from Jewish internees.
Red Cross Recipients Were Jews The Report states that "As many as 9,000 parcels were packed daily. From the autumn of 1943 until May 1945, about 1,112,000 parcels with a total weight of 4,500 tons were sent off to the concentration camps" (Vol. III, p. 80). In addition to food, these contained clothing and pharmaceutical supplies. "Parcels were sent to Dachau, Buchenwald, Sangerhausen, Sachsenhausen, Oranienburg, Flossenburg, Landsberg-am-Lech, Flöha, Ravensbrück, Hamburg-Neuengamme, Mauthausen, Theresienstadt, Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, to camps near Vienna and in Central and Southern Germany. The principal recipients were Belgians, Dutch, French, Greeks, Italians, Norwegians, Poles and stateless Jews" (Vol. III, p. 83).
In the course of the war, "The Committee was in a position to transfer and distribute in the form of relief supplies over twenty million Swiss francs collected by Jewish welfare organisations throughout the world, in particular by the American Joint Distribution Committee of New York" (Vol. I, p. 644). This latter organisation was permitted by the German Government to maintain offices in Berlin until the American entry into the war. The ICRC complained that obstruction of their
> The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right > are making to genocide > ... >_______________
> There must be people who remember World War II and the Holocaust who > can help us get out of this rut.
> Martin Scorsese
> Harry
I just wonder where you and Elie Wiesel were when leftards were comparing George W. Bush to Adolf Hitler, such as in this protest sign I saw in San Francisco last year:
On Nov 8, 5:42 pm, Peter Principle <petesfe...@SNIPITgmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:23:00 -0600, "r wiley" <rawi...@southslope.net> wrote:
> >"
> >Wiesel is compelled to enforce his copyright on the term. > >"holocaust" may only be used to refer to Jewish victimhood.
> Um, FYI, you subliterate stupid motherfucker, there is a difference between > "holocaust" and "Holocaust."
> One is a generic noun referring to devastation and/or destruction. One is a > proper noun that applies to a specific historical event.
"So you see the world is coming to an end and you want to make a Holocaust back in 1941. That's not a Holocaust, that was man's war against man. That's not God's war against man. God is in everything, y'know. We need to fix the water, we need to help the damn trees, we need to stop the fuckin' pollution, we need to stop them damn automobiles and do a lot more walking. Get back to bicycles. Quit using paper, quit wiping your ass with the trees. Quit wasting all the fuckin' paper, man." -- Charles Manson
>>>>Wiesel is compelled to enforce his copyright on the term. >>>>"holocaust" may only be used to refer to Jewish victimhood.
>>> Um, FYI, you subliterate stupid motherfucker, there is a difference between >>> "holocaust" and "Holocaust."
>>As my post illustrated, I understand you racist vermin perfectly.
> As your post illustrated, you're an ignorant subliterate stupid asshole > bigoted goober too fucking dumb to ken the HUGE difference between the > PROPER NOUN "Holocaust," which refers ONLY to one *very* specific historical > event, and the generic noun "holocaust," meaning devastation in general.
> Also, as your post indicated, you're a gutless rightarded coward who can > only snip away the FACTS that so scare the shit out of your stupid goober > ass while you hope and pray that no one notices.
Now that's funny. You hide behind a pseudonym and call me a coward.
> The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right > are making to genocide
> By Alex Koppelman
> Unfortunately, it seems that whether it's on the Internet or in real > life, Godwin's Law always finds a way to prove itself again.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
> People manage to use Nazi and Holocaust references in the most poorly > considered of ways, as if they're unaware of the true horror that was > the slaughter of millions of innocent people.
> That sort of thing has been happening all too frequently during > protests against Democratic healthcare reform plans, and one of the > more shocking examples was on display at the protest on Capitol Hill > Thursday: A banner that featured a picture of naked, emaciated bodies > stacked in a pile, with text reading, "National Socialist Health Care: > Dachau, Germany -- 1945."http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/1.jpg
> Now, someone with credibility on the issue that's all too real has > spoken out against these comparisons.
> Elie Wiesel, a Holocaust survivor and author, put out a statement > through his foundation's Twitter account.
> It reads simply, "Elie Wiesel on the GOP Tea Party's anti-Semitism and > Holocaust comparisons: 'This kind of political hatred is indecent and > disgusting.'"
>>>>>>Wiesel is compelled to enforce his copyright on the term. >>>>>>"holocaust" may only be used to refer to Jewish victimhood.
>>>>> Um, FYI, you subliterate stupid motherfucker, there is a difference between >>>>> "holocaust" and "Holocaust."
>>>>As my post illustrated, I understand you racist vermin perfectly.
>>> As your post illustrated, you're an ignorant subliterate stupid asshole >>> bigoted goober too fucking dumb to ken the HUGE difference between the >>> PROPER NOUN "Holocaust," which refers ONLY to one *very* specific historical >>> event, and the generic noun "holocaust," meaning devastation in general.
>>> Also, as your post indicated, you're a gutless rightarded coward who can >>> only snip away the FACTS that so scare the shit out of your stupid goober >>> ass while you hope and pray that no one notices.
>>Now that's funny. You hide behind a pseudonym and call me a coward.
> You know what's REALLY funny? Ignorant subliterate stupid asshole maroons > who, when rhetorically spanked raw for their astounding, glaring idiocy, try > to change the subject, apparently thinking no one will notice.
Rant away. Whether you capitalize holocaust when you try to enforce your imagined copyright or not, you are not a victim. And unless "Peter Principal" is your name, you have no standing to call anyone a coward.
"Peter Principle" <petesfe...@SNIPITgmail.com> wrote in message news:v47sf519mfkjpm4dsi6oqrq9j5sif9hk8j@4ax.com... >>>>> As your post illustrated, you're an ignorant subliterate stupid asshole >>>>> bigoted goober too fucking dumb to ken the HUGE difference between the >>>>> PROPER NOUN "Holocaust," which refers ONLY to one *very* specific historical >>>>> event, and the generic noun "holocaust," meaning devastation in general.
>>>>> Also, as your post indicated, you're a gutless rightarded coward who can >>>>> only snip away the FACTS that so scare the shit out of your stupid goober >>>>> ass while you hope and pray that no one notices.
> Fart away, subliterate stupid asshole shit licking racist impotent little > pricklet. The fact remains that you're FAR too fucking STUPID to ken the > simple FACT that "Holocaust" and "holocaust" are two different words with > two completely different definitions. Witness, yet again, you stupid > motherfucker, the REALITY your impotent little pricklet ass can only snip > away in terror... > Questions, you stupid motherfucker? As you can see, you stupid motherfucker, > your insane boob.farts have absolutely no effect whatsoever on REALITY.
> Fart away, impotent little pricklet. You will always have exactly the > influence and exactly the power here as you do in your pathetic excuse for a > real life, which is to say precisely NONE, not any, nothing, zed, zip, zero, > zatch, diddly, squat, bupkes, niente, nada...
> Congratulations, you stupid asshole!
> But boy, howdy, yooz shore izza konvincin' lots'o folk dat yoo ain't rilly a > subliterate imbecile farting asinine FUD about that which you know entirely > not shit. No, really, yer doin' a heckuva job! As far as you know...
Another troll hiding behind the anonymity of usenet demonstrates how many attempted insults he can squeeze into a post. I've read enough of your drivel.
>"Peter Principle" <petesfe...@SNIPITgmail.com> wrote in message news:v47sf519mfkjpm4dsi6oqrq9j5sif9hk8j@4ax.com... >>>>>> As your post illustrated, you're an ignorant subliterate stupid asshole >>>>>> bigoted goober too fucking dumb to ken the HUGE difference between the >>>>>> PROPER NOUN "Holocaust," which refers ONLY to one *very* specific historical >>>>>> event, and the generic noun "holocaust," meaning devastation in general.
>>>>>> Also, as your post indicated, you're a gutless rightarded coward who can >>>>>> only snip away the FACTS that so scare the shit out of your stupid goober >>>>>> ass while you hope and pray that no one notices.
>> Fart away, subliterate stupid asshole shit licking racist impotent little >> pricklet. The fact remains that you're FAR too fucking STUPID to ken the >> simple FACT that "Holocaust" and "holocaust" are two different words with >> two completely different definitions. Witness, yet again, you stupid >> motherfucker, the REALITY your impotent little pricklet ass can only snip >> away in terror...
>> Questions, you stupid motherfucker? As you can see, you stupid motherfucker, >> your insane boob.farts have absolutely no effect whatsoever on REALITY.
>> Fart away, impotent little pricklet. You will always have exactly the >> influence and exactly the power here as you do in your pathetic excuse for a >> real life, which is to say precisely NONE, not any, nothing, zed, zip, zero, >> zatch, diddly, squat, bupkes, niente, nada...
>> Congratulations, you stupid asshole!
>> But boy, howdy, yooz shore izza konvincin' lots'o folk dat yoo ain't rilly a >> subliterate imbecile farting asinine FUD about that which you know entirely >> not shit. No, really, yer doin' a heckuva job! As far as you know...
>Another troll hiding behind the anonymity of usenet demonstrates how many >attempted insults he can squeeze into a post. I've read enough of your drivel.
RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY! I'm ever so sure no one will notice that you're a subliterate impotent little racist pricklet if you just RUN AWAY!
But I'll give you this. You didn't repeat the same intensely STUPID actions you've repeated multiple times before, each time expecting a different outcome. Oh, no, not you. You found an entirely new - if every bit as stupid and then some - action. RUN AWAY!
No matter what you do, no matter where you run, you'll always be a subliterate bigoted impotent little pricklet. Congratulations!
–noun 1. a great or complete devastation or destruction, esp. by fire. 2. a sacrifice completely consumed by fire; burnt offering. 3. (usually initial capital letter) the systematic mass slaughter of European Jews in Nazi concentration camps during World War II (usually prec. by the). ------
Questions, you stupid motherfucker? As you can see, you stupid motherfucker, your insane boob.farts have absolutely no effect whatsoever on REALITY.
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Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments
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ABSTRACT: ...the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd.
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:20:23 -0800 (PST), leonox1 <wsjames...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 13, 10:06 pm, Peter Principle <petesfe...@SNIPITgmail.com> >wrote: >> Fart away, subliterate stupid asshole shit licking racist impotent little >> pricklet.
>Hmm, I'm guessing from your language that's you're a liberal. Am I >right?
Hmmm, I don't have to guess. I can tell from the fact that you can't even make it through so much as one very short sentence without a subliterate boob.fart glaring error so fundamental as to embarrass the average 3rd grader.
Well played! Bravo! Yooz a jen-yoo-whine jeen-yus, yooz izza! A reel master o' strategery, tooo...
So, have you always been an imbecile or have you recently suffered a severe closed head trauma? If the former, gosh, what a shock! If the latter, good for you! Keep working hard!
Jaybus Freaking Crisco...
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Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments
Justin Kruger and David Dunning Department of Psychology Cornell University
ABSTRACT: ...the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd.
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:20:23 -0800 (PST), leonox1 <wsjames...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> >On Nov 13, 10:06 pm, Peter Principle <petesfe...@SNIPITgmail.com> > >wrote: > >> Fart away, subliterate stupid asshole shit licking racist impotent little > >> pricklet.
> >Hmm, I'm guessing from your language that's you're a liberal. Am I > >right?
> Hmmm, I don't have to guess. I can tell from the fact that you can't even > make it through so much as one very short sentence without a subliterate > boob.fart glaring error so fundamental as to embarrass the average 3rd > grader.
> Well played! Bravo! Yooz a jen-yoo-whine jeen-yus, yooz izza! A reel master > o' strategery, tooo...
>On Nov 16, 9:19 pm, Peter Principle <petesfe...@SNIPITgmail.com> >wrote: >> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:20:23 -0800 (PST), leonox1 <wsjames...@gmail.com> >> wrote:
>> >On Nov 13, 10:06 pm, Peter Principle <petesfe...@SNIPITgmail.com> >> >wrote: >> >> Fart away, subliterate stupid asshole shit licking racist impotent little >> >> pricklet.
>> >Hmm, I'm guessing from your language that's you're a liberal. Am I >> >right?
>> Hmmm, I don't have to guess. I can tell from the fact that you can't even >> make it through so much as one very short sentence without a subliterate >> boob.fart glaring error so fundamental as to embarrass the average 3rd >> grader.
>> Well played! Bravo! Yooz a jen-yoo-whine jeen-yus, yooz izza! A reel master >> o' strategery, tooo...
>I'll take that as a "Yes, you were right".
I'll take that as your WATB subliterate stupid goober ass can't even ADDRESS anything of the FACTS I've presented, much less refute any of them in any way.
Or can you? Can you actually refute ANYTHING I've said or are you every bit the ignorant subliterate stupid asshole you play here so well?
Well?
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Begin, luser...
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Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments
Justin Kruger and David Dunning Department of Psychology Cornell University
ABSTRACT: ...the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd.