Obama Administration Launches Deceptive Swine Flu Propaganda Blitz To Counter Growing Criticiism From Scientific and Medical Community: Universal Vaccination could Kill Millions of Americans: and cripple and Harm many more than it helps: Forced
Subject: Obama Administration Launches Deceptive Swine Flu Propaganda Blitz To Counter Growing Criticiism From Scientific and Medical Community: Universal Vaccination could Kill Millions of Americans: and cripple and Harm many more than it helps: Forced
Global Research, October 29, 2009 Progressive Radio Network - 2009-10-26
President Obama and his top health officials are engaging in a major public relations effort to divert attention away from whether its swine flu vaccine is effective and safe to whether there is enough of it to go around. And the media, as always, is cooperating fully. This echoes the way media debate was manipulated during the Vietnam and Iraq Wars. Instead of debating whether we should even be fighting those wars, the media debated only whether we were using the correct military strategy.
Increasing numbers of scientists and doctors are issuing harsh criticisms of the Government's plan to vaccinate (forcibly if necessary) virtually the entire U.S. population with what they claim is a poorly tested vaccine that is not only ineffective against swine flu, but could cripple and even kill many more people than it helps.
The CDC's public relations campaign has been running scare ads that portray swine flu as a full-blown pandemic responsible for snuffing out countless lives, and which, unless stopped by universal vaccination, could kill millions of American citizens. But scientists and health officials throughout the world have called the governments claims unjustified and deliberately misleading.
For example, Dr. Anthony Morris, a distinguished virologist and former Chief Vaccine Office at the U.S. Federal Drug Administration (FDA), states that There is no evidence that any influenza vaccine thus far developed is effective in preventing or mitigating any attack of influenza and that The producers of these vaccines know they are worthless, but they go on selling them anyway.
And in November 2007, the UK newspaper The Scotsman, made public warnings by the inventor of the flu jab, Dr. Graeme Laver. Dr. Laver was a major Australian scientist involved in the invention of a flu vaccine, in addition to playing a leading scientific role in the discovery of anti-flu drugs. He went on record as saying the vaccine he helped to create was ineffective and [that] natural infection with the flu was safer. I have never been impressed with its efficacy, said Dr. Laver.
We hear the assumption being made by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) that the number of deaths from the H1N1 virus is at pandemic levels and now a national emergency. One would assume that with all of its resources, the New York Times' October 26 front page story on the CDC's statistics would be accurate: 20,000 hospitalizations and 1,000 deaths due to the swine flu.
However, this is all fiction. And it is a fiction solely based upon the CDC's own contradictory statements and actions.
Our independent investigations into the clinical trials and statistical studies of influenza vaccines reveal glaring discrepancies. Let us not forget that it is this same New York Times, with its star reporter Judith Miller, who led America into believing that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction, tried to purchase yellow cake uranium from Niger, and had dealings with al-Qaeda. And let us also remember that it is the same CDC and health officials in Washington, including President Ford and his top health advisor Joseph Califano, who pushed through and propagandized an untested vaccine during the 1976 swine flu scare, which resulted in thousands of severely neurologically damaged Americans and about 500 reported deaths. Aside from permanent paralysis, many of these vaccine victims also underwent torturous processes for many years to get the government to recognize their illnesses and help cover their costs. Not only was the CDC's prediction and vaccination campaign for the 1976 flu season a total disaster, it also turned into a deadly scandal, witnessed across the United States on 60 Minutes when Dr. David Sencer, then head of the CDC, confirmed that the vaccine was never field tested, that there were only several reported incidents of H1N1 infection and none of these had been officially confirmed, and then lied about the CDC having no prior evidence that the swine flu vaccine could cause severe and permanent neurological damage. The end result from the 1976 debacle cost the government $3.5 billion in damages, two-thirds were for severe neurological injury and death directly due to the CDC's vaccination campaign.
Therefore, being anti-vaccine or pro-vaccine is not the most urgent issue.
What is critical is whether or not there is legitimate, sound science to support either position; in this regard, the vaccine manufacturers and our federal health agencies have failed in the past, and continue to fail today.
And they fail dismally. There is absolutely no evidence for sound-scientific protocol or anything resembling a gold-standard behind the swine flu infection statistics and vaccine efficacy and safety clinical trials to support Obama's and his health advisors' claims. Instead, the reports on hospitalizations and deaths due to the H1N1 virus are grossly distorted. What we are really witnessing is official science and statistics that are little more than propaganda.
One unfortunate development over the years is the notion that there is such a thing as a flu season. The truth is that we move annually into periods where there are dramatic increases in flu-like causing pathogens, however, the majority of these are unrelated to any strain of influenza virus. There can between 150 and 200 different infectious pathogensadenovirus, rhinovirus, parainfluenza, the very common coronavirus and, of course, pneumoniathat produce flu-like symptoms, and worse, during a flu season. For example, how many people have heard of bocavirus, which is responsible for bronchitis and pneumonia in young children, or metapneumovirus, responsible for more than 5 percent of all flu-related illnesses? This is true during every flu season and this year is no different. Furthermore, all flu vaccinations, including the swine flu, are useless for protecting people from these many prevalent infectious organisms.
If we take the combined figure of flu and pneumonia deaths for the period of 2001, and add a bit of spin to the figures, we are left believing that 62,034 people died from influenza. The actual figures determined by Peter Doshi, then at Harvard University, are 61,777 died from pneumonia and only 257 from flu.
Even more amazing, among those 257 cases only 18 were confirmed positive for influenza. A separate study conducted by the National Center for Health Statistics for the flu periods between 1979 through 2002 revealed the true range of flu deaths were between 257 and 3006, for an average of 1,348 per year.
The recent CBS Investigative Report, published on October 21, is one example.
After the CDC refused to honor CBS's Freedom of Information request to receive flu infection data for each individual state, the network performed independent outreach to all fifty states to get their statistics. Their report contradicts dramatically the CDC's public relations blitz. For example, in California, among the approximate 13,000 flu-like cases, 86 percent tested negative for any flu strain. In Florida, out of 8,853 cases, 83 percent were negative. In Georgia and Alaska, only 2.4 percent and 1 percent respectively tested positive for flu virus among all reported flu-like cases. If the infectious-rate ratios obtained by CBS are accurate, the CDC's figures are significantly reduced and agree with earlier predictions that the H1N1 virus will be simply an unwelcomed annoyance. So we are in the midst of an enormous medical hoax, a design and purpose that has yet to unfold completely, that will nevertheless reap huge revenues for the vaccine industrial complex.
Another example is a recent alarmist report issuing from Georgetown University, also usurped by federal health officials and their multimedia comrades to fuel a campaign of fear and panic. The report announced that over 250 students were infected by swine flu when in fact none of these students were tested for H1N1 infection. The university's figure was based solely on a count of student visits to the health clinic and calls into an H1N1 hotline.
This is not the first time the CDC's predictions for influenza strains have been overstated and miscalculated. In an interview on Swedish television, Dr.
Tom Jefferson, head of vaccine studies at the prestigious international Cochrane Database Collaboration, after reviewing hundreds of influenza studies and statistical analyses, has said the WHO's and CDC's performance is not very good. And in an ITN News interview last month, Jefferson called the swine flu pandemic a juggernaut they [the WHO, government agencies and vaccine makers] created. For the 1992-1993 season, the prediction was off by 84 percent. For the 1994-1995 season, it was off 43 percent for the primary strain and off 87 percent and 76 percent for two other strains. The Laboratory Center for Disease Control's study comparing vaccine strains with the strains appearing during the 1997-1998 season found the match was off by 84 percent.
Again Dr. Jefferson in a Der Spiegel interview remarked,
there are some people who make predictions year after year, and they get worse and worse. None of them so far have come about, and these people are still there making these predictions. For example, what happened with the bird flu, which was supposed to kill us all?... Swine flu could have even stayed unnoticed if it had been caused by some unknown virus rather than an influenza virus... An influenza vaccine is not working for the majority of influenza-like illnesses because it is only designed to combat influenza viruses. For that reason, the vaccine changes nothing when it comes to the heightened
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Subject: Re: Obama Administration Launches Deceptive Swine Flu Propaganda Blitz To Counter Growing Criticiism From Scientific and Medical Community: Universal Vaccination could Kill Millions of Americans: and cripple and Harm many more than it helps: Forced
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:01:35 -0700 (PDT), "skepti...@aol.com"
<skepti...@aol.com> wrote: >Obama Administration Launches Deceptive Swine Flu Propaganda Blitz >To Counter Growing Criticism from Scientific and Medical Community
>By Richard Gale and Dr. Gary Null
Gary Null?!? ROTFLMAO! Is there no kook that you don't follow?
Discussion subject changed to "Forced Vaccination could Kill Millions of Americans: and cripple and Harm many more than it helps:" by skepticl1@aol.com
Gary Null (1945– ) is one of the nation's leading promoters of dubious treatment for serious disease.
See the website for a full description of his dubious credentials and quackery. BTW, he isn't a medical doctor.
And no one will be forced to get a vaccination. Now if you are a health care worker and don't get one, you may lose you job, but in no way will you be forced.
> Gary Null (1945– ) is one of the nation's leading promoters of dubious > treatment for serious disease.
> See the website for a full description of his dubious credentials and > quackery. BTW, he isn't a medical doctor.
> And no one will be forced to get a vaccination. Now if you are a > health care worker and don't get one, you may lose you job, but in no > way will you be forced.
> Liz #658
> Liz #658
So it appears that Gary Null is one of the most widely published critics of established medicine. No wonder the AMA is frightened.
> > Gary Null (1945– ) is one of the nation's leading promoters of dubious > > treatment for serious disease.
> > See the website for a full description of his dubious credentials and > > quackery. BTW, he isn't a medical doctor.
> > And no one will be forced to get a vaccination. Now if you are a > > health care worker and don't get one, you may lose you job, but in no > > way will you be forced.
> > Liz #658
> > Liz #658
> So it appears that Gary Null is one of the most widely published > critics of established medicine. No wonder the AMA is frightened.
You once again show that you are a fucking idiot. The AMA is not "frightened" of a quack like Null. They're afraid of the sickness and pain that will result if people as stupid as you take that crap seriously, and stop vaccinating their children.
Your moronic ravings about the moon landings, JFK, and Atlantis is merely stupid.
Your denial of the worth of vaccinations is dangerous. How old are you, idiot? I'm old enough to remember polio victims. Or perhaps I should say polio *survivors*, their limbs shrunken & useless. Many others who had that disease died.
It's not just about the flu, shithead..if you dumbasses stop inocculating your children, you will release these ancient diseases into the modern world.
You, and your fellow mind-fucked idiots are an enemy of humanity. I can only hope you die soon, before you and your ilk can cause *more* damage to society.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta. aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA! "..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next." -Mark Twain
> > > Gary Null (1945– ) is one of the nation's leading promoters of dubious > > > treatment for serious disease.
> > > See the website for a full description of his dubious credentials and > > > quackery. BTW, he isn't a medical doctor.
> > > And no one will be forced to get a vaccination. Now if you are a > > > health care worker and don't get one, you may lose you job, but in no > > > way will you be forced.
> > > Liz #658
> > > Liz #658
> > So it appears that Gary Null is one of the most widely published > > critics of established medicine. No wonder the AMA is frightened.
> You once again show that you are a fucking idiot. The AMA is not > "frightened" of a quack like Null. They're afraid of the sickness and > pain that will result if people as stupid as you take that crap > seriously, and stop vaccinating their children.
> Your moronic ravings about the moon landings, JFK, and Atlantis is > merely stupid.
> Your denial of the worth of vaccinations is dangerous. How old are > you, idiot? I'm old enough to remember polio victims. Or perhaps I > should say polio *survivors*, their limbs shrunken & useless. Many > others who had that disease died.
> It's not just about the flu, shithead..if you dumbasses stop > inocculating your children, you will release these ancient diseases > into the modern world.
> You, and your fellow mind-fucked idiots are an enemy of humanity. I > can only hope you die soon, before you and your ilk can cause *more* > damage to society.
> -Panama Floyd, Atlanta. > aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA! > "..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next." > -Mark Twain
Increasing numbers of scientists and doctors are issuing harsh criticisms of the Government's plan to vaccinate (forcibly if necessary) virtually the entire U.S. population with what they claim is a poorly tested vaccine that is not only ineffective against swine flu, but could cripple and even kill many more people than it helps.
The CDC's public relations campaign has been running scare ads that portray swine flu as a full-blown pandemic responsible for snuffing out countless lives, and which, unless stopped by universal vaccination, could kill millions of American citizens. But scientists and health officials throughout the world have called the governments claims unjustified and deliberately misleading.
Many Americans could be killed by these poorly tested Swine Flu vacines and more people can be harmed by them than helped. Who is on the side of good science here? You or me? There is growing condemnation of the program. You are welcomed my forced vaccination Panama Floyd. I'm happy without it. Pro choice abortion advocates say: "Our Body our Choice." When it comes to the government's flu vaccination program I say: "My body, my choice."
>> Gary Null (1945– ) is one of the nation's leading promoters of dubious >> treatment for serious disease.
>> See the website for a full description of his dubious credentials and >> quackery. BTW, he isn't a medical doctor.
>> And no one will be forced to get a vaccination. Now if you are a >> health care worker and don't get one, you may lose you job, but in no >> way will you be forced.
>> Liz #658
>> Liz #658
>So it appears that Gary Null is one of the most widely published >critics of established medicine. No wonder the AMA is frightened.
The AMA is rightfully afraid of charlatans like Null harming the public with their promotion of quackery.
>> > > Gary Null (1945– ) is one of the nation's leading promoters of dubious >> > > treatment for serious disease.
>> > > See the website for a full description of his dubious credentials and >> > > quackery. BTW, he isn't a medical doctor.
>> > > And no one will be forced to get a vaccination. Now if you are a >> > > health care worker and don't get one, you may lose you job, but in no >> > > way will you be forced.
>> > > Liz #658
>> > > Liz #658
>> > So it appears that Gary Null is one of the most widely published >> > critics of established medicine. No wonder the AMA is frightened.
>> You once again show that you are a fucking idiot. The AMA is not >> "frightened" of a quack like Null. They're afraid of the sickness and >> pain that will result if people as stupid as you take that crap >> seriously, and stop vaccinating their children.
>> Your moronic ravings about the moon landings, JFK, and Atlantis is >> merely stupid.
>> Your denial of the worth of vaccinations is dangerous. How old are >> you, idiot? I'm old enough to remember polio victims. Or perhaps I >> should say polio *survivors*, their limbs shrunken & useless. Many >> others who had that disease died.
>> It's not just about the flu, shithead..if you dumbasses stop >> inocculating your children, you will release these ancient diseases >> into the modern world.
>> You, and your fellow mind-fucked idiots are an enemy of humanity. I >> can only hope you die soon, before you and your ilk can cause *more* >> damage to society.
>> -Panama Floyd, Atlanta. >> aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA! >> "..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next." >> -Mark Twain
> >> > > Gary Null (1945– ) is one of the nation's leading promoters of dubious > >> > > treatment for serious disease.
> >> > > See the website for a full description of his dubious credentials and > >> > > quackery. BTW, he isn't a medical doctor.
> >> > > And no one will be forced to get a vaccination. Now if you are a > >> > > health care worker and don't get one, you may lose you job, but in no > >> > > way will you be forced.
> >> > > Liz #658
> >> > > Liz #658
> >> > So it appears that Gary Null is one of the most widely published > >> > critics of established medicine. No wonder the AMA is frightened.
> >> You once again show that you are a fucking idiot. The AMA is not > >> "frightened" of a quack like Null. They're afraid of the sickness and > >> pain that will result if people as stupid as you take that crap > >> seriously, and stop vaccinating their children.
> >> Your moronic ravings about the moon landings, JFK, and Atlantis is > >> merely stupid.
> >> Your denial of the worth of vaccinations is dangerous. How old are > >> you, idiot? I'm old enough to remember polio victims. Or perhaps I > >> should say polio *survivors*, their limbs shrunken & useless. Many > >> others who had that disease died.
> >> It's not just about the flu, shithead..if you dumbasses stop > >> inocculating your children, you will release these ancient diseases > >> into the modern world.
> >> You, and your fellow mind-fucked idiots are an enemy of humanity. I > >> can only hope you die soon, before you and your ilk can cause *more* > >> damage to society.
> >> -Panama Floyd, Atlanta. > >> aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA! > >> "..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next." > >> -Mark Twain
> > >> > > Gary Null (1945– ) is one of the nation's leading promoters of dubious > > >> > > treatment for serious disease.
> > >> > > See the website for a full description of his dubious credentials and > > >> > > quackery. BTW, he isn't a medical doctor.
> > >> > > And no one will be forced to get a vaccination. Now if you are a > > >> > > health care worker and don't get one, you may lose you job, but in no > > >> > > way will you be forced.
> > >> > > Liz #658
> > >> > > Liz #658
> > >> > So it appears that Gary Null is one of the most widely published > > >> > critics of established medicine. No wonder the AMA is frightened.
> > >> You once again show that you are a fucking idiot. The AMA is not > > >> "frightened" of a quack like Null. They're afraid of the sickness and > > >> pain that will result if people as stupid as you take that crap > > >> seriously, and stop vaccinating their children.
> > >> Your moronic ravings about the moon landings, JFK, and Atlantis is > > >> merely stupid.
> > >> Your denial of the worth of vaccinations is dangerous. How old are > > >> you, idiot? I'm old enough to remember polio victims. Or perhaps I > > >> should say polio *survivors*, their limbs shrunken & useless. Many > > >> others who had that disease died.
> > >> It's not just about the flu, shithead..if you dumbasses stop > > >> inocculating your children, you will release these ancient diseases > > >> into the modern world.
> > >> You, and your fellow mind-fucked idiots are an enemy of humanity. I > > >> can only hope you die soon, before you and your ilk can cause *more* > > >> damage to society.
> > >> -Panama Floyd, Atlanta. > > >> aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA! > > >> "..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next." > > >> -Mark Twain
>> >> > > Gary Null (1945– ) is one of the nation's leading promoters of dubious >> >> > > treatment for serious disease.
>> >> > > See the website for a full description of his dubious credentials and >> >> > > quackery. BTW, he isn't a medical doctor.
>> >> > > And no one will be forced to get a vaccination. Now if you are a >> >> > > health care worker and don't get one, you may lose you job, but in no >> >> > > way will you be forced.
>> >> > > Liz #658
>> >> > > Liz #658
>> >> > So it appears that Gary Null is one of the most widely published >> >> > critics of established medicine. No wonder the AMA is frightened.
>> >> You once again show that you are a fucking idiot. The AMA is not >> >> "frightened" of a quack like Null. They're afraid of the sickness and >> >> pain that will result if people as stupid as you take that crap >> >> seriously, and stop vaccinating their children.
>> >> Your moronic ravings about the moon landings, JFK, and Atlantis is >> >> merely stupid.
>> >> Your denial of the worth of vaccinations is dangerous. How old are >> >> you, idiot? I'm old enough to remember polio victims. Or perhaps I >> >> should say polio *survivors*, their limbs shrunken & useless. Many >> >> others who had that disease died.
>> >> It's not just about the flu, shithead..if you dumbasses stop >> >> inocculating your children, you will release these ancient diseases >> >> into the modern world.
>> >> You, and your fellow mind-fucked idiots are an enemy of humanity. I >> >> can only hope you die soon, before you and your ilk can cause *more* >> >> damage to society.
>> >> -Panama Floyd, Atlanta. >> >> aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA! >> >> "..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next." >> >> -Mark Twain
> >> >> > > Gary Null (1945– ) is one of the nation's leading promoters of dubious > >> >> > > treatment for serious disease.
> >> >> > > See the website for a full description of his dubious credentials and > >> >> > > quackery. BTW, he isn't a medical doctor.
> >> >> > > And no one will be forced to get a vaccination. Now if you are a > >> >> > > health care worker and don't get one, you may lose you job, but in no > >> >> > > way will you be forced.
> >> >> > > Liz #658
> >> >> > > Liz #658
> >> >> > So it appears that Gary Null is one of the most widely published > >> >> > critics of established medicine. No wonder the AMA is frightened.
> >> >> You once again show that you are a fucking idiot. The AMA is not > >> >> "frightened" of a quack like Null. They're afraid of the sickness and > >> >> pain that will result if people as stupid as you take that crap > >> >> seriously, and stop vaccinating their children.
> >> >> Your moronic ravings about the moon landings, JFK, and Atlantis is > >> >> merely stupid.
> >> >> Your denial of the worth of vaccinations is dangerous. How old are > >> >> you, idiot? I'm old enough to remember polio victims. Or perhaps I > >> >> should say polio *survivors*, their limbs shrunken & useless. Many > >> >> others who had that disease died.
> >> >> It's not just about the flu, shithead..if you dumbasses stop > >> >> inocculating your children, you will release these ancient diseases > >> >> into the modern world.
> >> >> You, and your fellow mind-fucked idiots are an enemy of humanity. I > >> >> can only hope you die soon, before you and your ilk can cause *more* > >> >> damage to society.
> >> >> -Panama Floyd, Atlanta. > >> >> aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA! > >> >> "..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next." > >> >> -Mark Twain
> >> >Increasing numbers of scientists and doctors are issuing harsh > >> >criticisms of the Government's plan to vaccinate (forcibly if > >> >necessary)
> >> The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it. No one will be > >> "forced" to take it.- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -
> >How about first line responders and medical person? Take the dangerous > >vaccine or mandatory lose your job. That is a forced vaccine.
> "Forced" would be someone holding you down and administering the > vaccine against your will.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
And forced would be taking away someone's disability payments if they didn't take a dirty, dangerous vaccines or firing first responders from their jobs if they don't take a not fully tested, potentially deadly vaccine. The story includes governmental warnings of possible forced vaccines against people's will. The government has a long history of doing this against their troops in the Iraq War holocaust. Soldiers have died for vaccinations in which they were thrown to the ground and jumped on by other soldiers and forcibily injected with the dangerous cocktails. Many soldiers are ill and will be sick for the rest of their lives with Gulf War Syndrome become of the dirty, dangerous and untested vaccines forced on them against their will, or sneaked on them because of mis-education and purposefull deception.
>> >> >> > > Gary Null (1945– ) is one of the nation's leading promoters of dubious >> >> >> > > treatment for serious disease.
>> >> >> > > See the website for a full description of his dubious credentials and >> >> >> > > quackery. BTW, he isn't a medical doctor.
>> >> >> > > And no one will be forced to get a vaccination. Now if you are a >> >> >> > > health care worker and don't get one, you may lose you job, but in no >> >> >> > > way will you be forced.
>> >> >> > > Liz #658
>> >> >> > > Liz #658
>> >> >> > So it appears that Gary Null is one of the most widely published >> >> >> > critics of established medicine. No wonder the AMA is frightened.
>> >> >> You once again show that you are a fucking idiot. The AMA is not >> >> >> "frightened" of a quack like Null. They're afraid of the sickness and >> >> >> pain that will result if people as stupid as you take that crap >> >> >> seriously, and stop vaccinating their children.
>> >> >> Your moronic ravings about the moon landings, JFK, and Atlantis is >> >> >> merely stupid.
>> >> >> Your denial of the worth of vaccinations is dangerous. How old are >> >> >> you, idiot? I'm old enough to remember polio victims. Or perhaps I >> >> >> should say polio *survivors*, their limbs shrunken & useless. Many >> >> >> others who had that disease died.
>> >> >> It's not just about the flu, shithead..if you dumbasses stop >> >> >> inocculating your children, you will release these ancient diseases >> >> >> into the modern world.
>> >> >> You, and your fellow mind-fucked idiots are an enemy of humanity. I >> >> >> can only hope you die soon, before you and your ilk can cause *more* >> >> >> damage to society.
>> >> >> -Panama Floyd, Atlanta. >> >> >> aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA! >> >> >> "..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next." >> >> >> -Mark Twain
>> >> >Increasing numbers of scientists and doctors are issuing harsh >> >> >criticisms of the Government's plan to vaccinate (forcibly if >> >> >necessary)
>> >> The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it. No one will be >> >> "forced" to take it.- Hide quoted text -
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>> >How about first line responders and medical person? Take the dangerous >> >vaccine or mandatory lose your job. That is a forced vaccine.
>> "Forced" would be someone holding you down and administering the >> vaccine against your will. >> - Show quoted text -
>And forced would be taking away someone's disability payments if they >didn't take a dirty, dangerous vaccines
> >> >> >> > > Gary Null (1945? ) is one of the nation's leading promoters of dubious > >> >> >> > > treatment for serious disease.
> >> >> >> > > See the website for a full description of his dubious credentials and > >> >> >> > > quackery. BTW, he isn't a medical doctor.
> >> >> >> > > And no one will be forced to get a vaccination. Now if you are a > >> >> >> > > health care worker and don't get one, you may lose you job, but in no > >> >> >> > > way will you be forced.
> >> >> >> > > Liz #658
> >> >> >> > > Liz #658
> >> >> >> > So it appears that Gary Null is one of the most widely published > >> >> >> > critics of established medicine. No wonder the AMA is frightened.
> >> >> >> You once again show that you are a fucking idiot. The AMA is not > >> >> >> "frightened" of a quack like Null. They're afraid of the sickness and > >> >> >> pain that will result if people as stupid as you take that crap > >> >> >> seriously, and stop vaccinating their children.
> >> >> >> Your moronic ravings about the moon landings, JFK, and Atlantis is > >> >> >> merely stupid.
> >> >> >> Your denial of the worth of vaccinations is dangerous. How old are > >> >> >> you, idiot? I'm old enough to remember polio victims. Or perhaps I > >> >> >> should say polio *survivors*, their limbs shrunken & useless. Many > >> >> >> others who had that disease died.
> >> >> >> It's not just about the flu, shithead..if you dumbasses stop > >> >> >> inocculating your children, you will release these ancient diseases > >> >> >> into the modern world.
> >> >> >> You, and your fellow mind-fucked idiots are an enemy of humanity. I > >> >> >> can only hope you die soon, before you and your ilk can cause *more* > >> >> >> damage to society.
> >> >> >> -Panama Floyd, Atlanta. > >> >> >> aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA! > >> >> >> "..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next." > >> >> >> -Mark Twain
> >> >> >Increasing numbers of scientists and doctors are issuing harsh > >> >> >criticisms of the Government's plan to vaccinate (forcibly if > >> >> >necessary)
> >> >> The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it. No one will be > >> >> "forced" to take it.- Hide quoted text -
> >> >> - Show quoted text -
> >> >How about first line responders and medical person? Take the dangerous > >> >vaccine or mandatory lose your job. That is a forced vaccine.
> >> "Forced" would be someone holding you down and administering the > >> vaccine against your will.
> >> - Show quoted text -
> >And forced would be taking away someone's disability payments if they > >didn't take a dirty, dangerous vaccines
> You're on disability for what, may I ask?
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>> >> >> >> > > Gary Null (1945? ) is one of the nation's leading promoters of dubious >> >> >> >> > > treatment for serious disease.
>> >> >> >> > > See the website for a full description of his dubious credentials and >> >> >> >> > > quackery. BTW, he isn't a medical doctor.
>> >> >> >> > > And no one will be forced to get a vaccination. Now if you are a >> >> >> >> > > health care worker and don't get one, you may lose you job, but in no >> >> >> >> > > way will you be forced.
>> >> >> >> > > Liz #658
>> >> >> >> > > Liz #658
>> >> >> >> > So it appears that Gary Null is one of the most widely published >> >> >> >> > critics of established medicine. No wonder the AMA is frightened.
>> >> >> >> You once again show that you are a fucking idiot. The AMA is not >> >> >> >> "frightened" of a quack like Null. They're afraid of the sickness and >> >> >> >> pain that will result if people as stupid as you take that crap >> >> >> >> seriously, and stop vaccinating their children.
>> >> >> >> Your moronic ravings about the moon landings, JFK, and Atlantis is >> >> >> >> merely stupid.
>> >> >> >> Your denial of the worth of vaccinations is dangerous. How old are >> >> >> >> you, idiot? I'm old enough to remember polio victims. Or perhaps I >> >> >> >> should say polio *survivors*, their limbs shrunken & useless. Many >> >> >> >> others who had that disease died.
>> >> >> >> It's not just about the flu, shithead..if you dumbasses stop >> >> >> >> inocculating your children, you will release these ancient diseases >> >> >> >> into the modern world.
>> >> >> >> You, and your fellow mind-fucked idiots are an enemy of humanity. I >> >> >> >> can only hope you die soon, before you and your ilk can cause *more* >> >> >> >> damage to society.
>> >> >> >> -Panama Floyd, Atlanta. >> >> >> >> aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA! >> >> >> >> "..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next." >> >> >> >> -Mark Twain
>> >> >> >Increasing numbers of scientists and doctors are issuing harsh >> >> >> >criticisms of the Government's plan to vaccinate (forcibly if >> >> >> >necessary)
>> >> >> The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it. No one will be >> >> >> "forced" to take it.- Hide quoted text -
>> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>> >> >How about first line responders and medical person? Take the dangerous >> >> >vaccine or mandatory lose your job. That is a forced vaccine.
>> >> "Forced" would be someone holding you down and administering the >> >> vaccine against your will.
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>> >And forced would be taking away someone's disability payments if they >> >didn't take a dirty, dangerous vaccines
>> You're on disability for what, may I ask? >I think I know! I think I know!!!
> >> >> >> >> > > Gary Null (1945? ) is one of the nation's leading promoters of dubious > >> >> >> >> > > treatment for serious disease.
> >> >> >> >> > > See the website for a full description of his dubious credentials and > >> >> >> >> > > quackery. BTW, he isn't a medical doctor.
> >> >> >> >> > > And no one will be forced to get a vaccination. Now if you are a > >> >> >> >> > > health care worker and don't get one, you may lose you job, but in no > >> >> >> >> > > way will you be forced.
> >> >> >> >> > > Liz #658
> >> >> >> >> > > Liz #658
> >> >> >> >> > So it appears that Gary Null is one of the most widely published > >> >> >> >> > critics of established medicine. No wonder the AMA is frightened.
> >> >> >> >> You once again show that you are a fucking idiot. The AMA is not > >> >> >> >> "frightened" of a quack like Null. They're afraid of the sickness and > >> >> >> >> pain that will result if people as stupid as you take that crap > >> >> >> >> seriously, and stop vaccinating their children.
> >> >> >> >> Your moronic ravings about the moon landings, JFK, and Atlantis is > >> >> >> >> merely stupid.
> >> >> >> >> Your denial of the worth of vaccinations is dangerous. How old are > >> >> >> >> you, idiot? I'm old enough to remember polio victims. Or perhaps I > >> >> >> >> should say polio *survivors*, their limbs shrunken & useless. Many > >> >> >> >> others who had that disease died.
> >> >> >> >> It's not just about the flu, shithead..if you dumbasses stop > >> >> >> >> inocculating your children, you will release these ancient diseases > >> >> >> >> into the modern world.
> >> >> >> >> You, and your fellow mind-fucked idiots are an enemy of humanity. I > >> >> >> >> can only hope you die soon, before you and your ilk can cause *more* > >> >> >> >> damage to society.
> >> >> >> >> -Panama Floyd, Atlanta. > >> >> >> >> aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA! > >> >> >> >> "..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next." > >> >> >> >> -Mark Twain
> >> >> >> >Increasing numbers of scientists and doctors are issuing harsh > >> >> >> >criticisms of the Government's plan to vaccinate (forcibly if > >> >> >> >necessary)
> >> >> >> The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it. No one will be > >> >> >> "forced" to take it.- Hide quoted text -
> >> >> >> - Show quoted text -
> >> >> >How about first line responders and medical person? Take the dangerous > >> >> >vaccine or mandatory lose your job. That is a forced vaccine.
> >> >> "Forced" would be someone holding you down and administering the > >> >> vaccine against your will.
> >> >> - Show quoted text -
> >> >And forced would be taking away someone's disability payments if they > >> >didn't take a dirty, dangerous vaccines
> >> You're on disability for what, may I ask?
> >I think I know! I think I know!!!
> So do I. I just want to hear it from him.
We can dream, can't we? I think I would stroke out if he actually told us..or just laugh like hell.
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> How about first line responders and medical person? Take the dangerous > vaccine or mandatory lose your job. That is a forced vaccine.
It's not dangerous and they probably would not be fired, just put into some non-emergency status. The same would happen if they refused to use other forms of protection. The vast majority of them are young and know that they are most at risk.
> On Oct 31, 2:07 am, "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
> snippy on down
> > Pro choice abortion advocates say: > > "Our Body our Choice." When it comes to the government's flu > > vaccination program I say: "My body, my choice."
> Pregnancy doesn't spread through airborne transmission, idiot. Viruses > *do*. You run the risk of infecting others. *That* makes it everyone's > concern.
> Is the rest of your scientific education this faulty? Sure would > explain why you quote quacks & crackpots all the time..
> -Panama Floyd, Atlatanta. > aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
The Swine flu cocktail is not thoroughly tested. The vaccine is not effective against Swine flu. Only about 100 children have died from the swine flu. That is about the same level of deaths as the last year's flu.
"Increasing numbers of scientists and doctors are issuing harsh criticisms of the Government's plan to vaccinate (forcibly if necessary) virtually the entire U.S. population with what they claim is a poorly tested vaccine that is not only ineffective against swine flu, but could cripple and even kill many more people than it helps."
I'm not against science. I want the country to make the best decision on this one.
skepti...@aol.com <skepti...@aol.com> wrote: > On Nov 2, 2:24 pm, panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote: >> On Oct 31, 2:07 am, "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>> snippy on down
>> > Pro choice abortion advocates say: >> > "Our Body our Choice." When it comes to the government's flu >> > vaccination program I say: "My body, my choice."
>> Pregnancy doesn't spread through airborne transmission, idiot. Viruses >> *do*. You run the risk of infecting others. *That* makes it everyone's >> concern.
>> Is the rest of your scientific education this faulty? Sure would >> explain why you quote quacks & crackpots all the time..
>> -Panama Floyd, Atlatanta. >> aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
> The Swine flu cocktail is not thoroughly tested. The vaccine is not > effective against Swine flu. Only about 100 children have died from > the swine flu. That is about the same level of deaths as the last > year's flu.
> "Increasing numbers of scientists and doctors are issuing harsh > criticisms of the Government's plan to vaccinate (forcibly if > necessary) virtually the entire U.S. population with what they claim > is a poorly tested vaccine that is not only ineffective against > swine flu, but could cripple and even kill many more people than > it helps."
> I'm not against science. I want the country to make the best decision > on this one.
Yes you are. You know nothing about the subject and are just repeating the lies of other idiots.
-- I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose. -- Clarence Darrow
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:04:16 -0800 (PST), "skepti...@aol.com"
> <skepti...@aol.com> wrote: > >On Nov 3, 7:58 pm, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:21:33 -0800 (PST), "skepti...@aol.com"
> >> <skepti...@aol.com> wrote: > >> >The Swine flu cocktail is not thoroughly tested. The vaccine is not > >> >effective against Swine flu.
> >> How can you know that it is not effective if it isn't thoroughly > >> tested? Do you even read what you write?
> >The testing that they have done so far, the swine flu cocktail wasn't > >even effective.
> Again, how can you know this if the tests are not completed, and the > findings published in a peer-reviewed journal?
A more important question is how can the medical industry and the Obama White House foist these drug cocktails full of mercury on children, the elderly and any other human being? Not quite importanlty how can you demand vaccinations of unsuspecting people world wide of a drug that has not been thoroughly tested?
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