On Nov 4, 4:59 pm, Mr.B1ack <b
...@barrk.net> wrote:
> liberal <liberalh
...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 4, 8:03 am, Mr.B1ack <b
...@barrk.net> wrote:
> >> Some tidy wins for the GOP yesterday - the party
> >> so many were saying was dead meat after Obamas
> >> victory last year. Seems the funeral was rather
> >> premature.
> >> One interesting feature of yesterdays races was
> >> the relatively large turnout of 'independents'
> >> and 'moderates' ... most taking the GOPs side.
> >> Clearly the administrations sharp turn towards
> >> the 'left' in the direction of 'socialism' or
> >> worse pissed off a LOT of people ... and not
> >> just hard-rore righties.
> >> I hadn't expected the GOP to bounce back so
> >> quickly ... figured it would be at least one
> >> more year, maybe even 2012, after the party
> >> had finished with its long-overdue shake-up.
> >> Apparently the 'socialist menace' was more
> >> than enough to motivate voters.
> >> HOWEVER .... there's still considerable danger
> >> for the GOP. I really don't think all those
> >> moderates and independents were voting FOR
> >> the theofascist agenda some GOP leaders insist
> >> upon, but AGAINST 'socialism/collectivism'.
> >> Those who say the GOP has to be a far right
> >> party are just plain WRONG. Being too far
> >> to the right/theo-right is what put off a
> >> lot of moderates before ... and it will
> >> drive 'em away again too. Neither the middle
> >> or the independents want authoritarianism /
> >> fascism / theocracy ... they just don't want
> >> us getting too deeply into the 'socialist'
> >> way of thinking and doing. Spend too much
> >> time saluting Newt and they'll take their
> >> chances with the Dems instead.
> >> In any event, the GOPs shakeup isn't over yet.
> >> Indeed it bas barely begun. Neo-cons and theo-
> >> cons and traditional conservatives and free
> >> marketers and many other factions are gonna
> >> have to make their cases, fight it out and
> >> eventually reach compromises. Only then will
> >> the 'new GOP' be finished. 2012 at the soonest,
> >> maybe even 2016.
> >> Meanwhile though ... keep chippin' away at
> >> the Dems and their plans. An all-powerful
> >> all-encompassing mega-state is NOT what
> >> the USA was EVER supposed to be about.
> >Excuse me, but if small government were the answer, you'd be living in
> >Somalia.
> False dichotomy ... fallacy of the 'missing middle'.
Incomplete argument: you fail to define that missing middle. You fail
to demonstrate that a liberal government is not the correct size for a
productive, free society. Whereas any rational person can point to the
failures of the reichtard policies that have failed.
> There's a LOT of working space between 'small government'
> and NO government.
Duh. Yeah. And the American experiment shows small government fails.
> >Your continued delusion about a "all-powerful, all-
> >encompassing, mega-state" is helping China become the economic
> >powerhouse many predict.
> Um ... in case you didn't notice ... Chinas advantage
> is *manpower* - gobs of it.
And you may not have noticed Chinese citizens aren't interested in
moving to this country anymore...unless they're spies.
> Oh yea, authoritarianism helps coordinate that manpower,
> but are you really recommending that the USA become a
> jackboot state in the name of 'efficiency' ? Leads to
> a kinda sucky life ... one where you really can't enjoy
> the fruits of your labors.
Oh yes, of course I am, it's the only solution.....ummmmm, of course
that's what my position seems like to a fascist looneytunarian when
compared to his insane laissez-faire, free trade, screw the worker,
poison the world to make another buck, small government point of view.
I have said this before: we've heard your bleat and whine before,
Hitler condemned liberal and conservatives alike, declaring he had a
better way to govern.
You're just a fascist for the 21st century.
> >Don't worry, I never expect commonsense from a reichtard, just hope
> >for it.
> I never expect common sense from a lefty.
No, you just can't understand common sense. Your tinfoil hat gets in
the way.