The last time Washington controlled health care for nonmilitary Americans was from 1933-72 - in the infamous Tuskeegee syphilis experiments. Almost 400 poor black men, without their knowledge or consent, were infected with syphilis - and deliberately left untreated - so federal doctors could study the effects of untreated syphilis as the men developed late-stage syphilis complications ranging from heart disease to insanity. The studies were done at the famous Tuskeegee University. Black Americans who support Obamacare should think carefully about this. Read the full story at: http://www.tuskegee.edu/global/story.asp?s=1207586
Obamacare will have the same effects. When the regime needs involuntary human guinea pigs, they WON'T be rich white hedge-fund managers or doctors who'd know what they're infected with. Instead - just like in the Tuskeegee syphilis experiment - they will be Obama's uneducated "cousins" in some slum, or maybe some just-here illegal aliens not speaking English.
hey shithead, yeah you the fat ass, loud mouth, retarded, dick sucking gomer,
who yall trying to convince here goober ?
the other ignorant, dick sucking hillbillies ???
take that shit back to texass and alabama boy, ain't nobody here stupid enough to buy this simple minded crap, other than those retards and gutless fat ass hillbilly cowards
LMAO
what a moron
survivalism ????
yall hillbillies need a lesson in surviving on your own and gettin offn the welfare
> The last time Washington controlled health care for nonmilitary > Americans was from 1933-72 - in the infamous Tuskeegee syphilis > experiments. Almost 400 poor black men, without their knowledge or > consent, were infected with syphilis - and deliberately left untreated > - so federal doctors could study the effects of untreated syphilis as > the men developed late-stage syphilis complications ranging from heart > disease to insanity. The studies were done at the famous Tuskeegee > University. > Black Americans who support Obamacare should think carefully about > this. Read the full story at: > http://www.tuskegee.edu/global/story.asp?s=1207586
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 00:22:15 -0800 (PST), "edi...@netpath.net"
<edi...@netpath.net> wrote: >Obamacare will have the same effects. When the regime needs >involuntary human guinea pigs, they WON'T be rich white hedge-fund >managers or doctors who'd know what they're infected with. Instead - >just like in the Tuskeegee syphilis experiment - they will be Obama's >uneducated "cousins" in some slum, or maybe some just-here illegal >aliens not speaking English.
And you're *against* that? From what I've read, it seems like you'd be all for that type of policy.
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 00:22:15 -0800 (PST), "edi...@netpath.net" ><edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>>Obamacare will have the same effects. When the regime needs >>involuntary human guinea pigs, they WON'T be rich white hedge-fund >>managers or doctors who'd know what they're infected with. Instead - >>just like in the Tuskeegee syphilis experiment - they will be Obama's >>uneducated "cousins" in some slum, or maybe some just-here illegal >>aliens not speaking English.
> And you're *against* that? From what I've read, it seems like you'd > be all for that type of policy.
Shows what a bigoted idiot you are.
--
"I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya punk?"
On Nov 4, 9:31 am, 4...@mag.num (Harry Callahan) wrote:
> "I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to > tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But > being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and > would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I > feel lucky? Well, do ya punk?"
Get a .357 instead if you want a magnum revolver; the ammo is much cheaper - and much more widely available.
On Nov 4, 3:22 am, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
> Obamacare will have the same effects. When the regime needs > involuntary human guinea pigs, they WON'T be rich white hedge-fund > managers or doctors who'd know what they're infected with. Instead - > just like in the Tuskeegee syphilis experiment - they will be Obama's > uneducated "cousins" in some slum, or maybe some just-here illegal > aliens not speaking English.
---------------------------------------------------------------- Be simpler if you just listed everyone/everything you hate. You really don't know much about anything else.
> On Nov 4, 9:31 am, 4...@mag.num (Harry Callahan) wrote: >> "I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, >> to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track >> myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in >> the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask >> yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya punk?"
> Get a .357 instead if you want a magnum revolver; the ammo is much > cheaper - and much more widely available.
I have 2, an M19 and am M28. But I prefer my M29 for around the farm.
Plus I reload.
-- "I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya punk?"
Slo <slost...@gmail.com> wrote in news:9fef21e2-76ef-4b0f-ac2a- af133b4e3...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 4, 12:13 am, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote: >> The last time Washington controlled health care for nonmilitary >> Americans was from 1933-72 - in the infamous Tuskeegee syphilis >> experiments.
> This is one of the most idiotic things I've ever read.
Facts and history are idiotic? Well if it interferes with your plans, I guess it would.
It happened. The government did it. I guess they weren't there to help those black men.
freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:85532ca7-0b7b-43f3-adce- e35fa0f64...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 4, 3:22 am, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote: >> Obamacare will have the same effects. When the regime needs >> involuntary human guinea pigs, they WON'T be rich white hedge-fund >> managers or doctors who'd know what they're infected with. Instead - >> just like in the Tuskeegee syphilis experiment - they will be Obama's >> uneducated "cousins" in some slum, or maybe some just-here illegal >> aliens not speaking English. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Be simpler if you just listed everyone/everything you hate. You > really don't know much about anything else.
Are you really this stupid? Have you never heard of the Tuskeegee experiments?
On Nov 4, 10:17 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) wrote:
> freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:85532ca7-0b7b-43f3-adce- > e35fa0f64...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
> > On Nov 4, 3:22 am, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote: > >> Obamacare will have the same effects. When the regime needs > >> involuntary human guinea pigs, they WON'T be rich white hedge-fund > >> managers or doctors who'd know what they're infected with. Instead - > >> just like in the Tuskeegee syphilis experiment - they will be Obama's > >> uneducated "cousins" in some slum, or maybe some just-here illegal > >> aliens not speaking English. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Be simpler if you just listed everyone/everything you hate. You > > really don't know much about anything else.
> ... Have you never heard of the Tuskeegee experiments?
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everybody has, it's nothing to feel all clever about. Of course, that topic has absolutely NOTHING to do with real health care. Every normal person, in every first-world democratic nation knows that REAL health care is a resource shared among all the citizens of a nation. But you don't care about real people and real health care - you couldn't care less about the U.S. or its people. You're paid to smear real health care with nonsense. You're a shill. You're here only because you've been told to support corporate profits instead of Americans' health. Tell us all - how much do you make from lying? Seriously, how much does it cost the corporations to buy a fool who will go on line to bray nonsense for the sake of corporate-profits, rationed, grotesquely expensive health care? If you're an American, tell us how much YOU pay for health care... can't afford it? Stuck with what your min-wage job allows. Or maybe you have a good cheap corporate medical plan as part of your payoff. Do you?
> On Nov 4, 10:17 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) > wrote: >> freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote in >> news:85532ca7-0b7b-43f3-adce- e35fa0f64...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
>> > On Nov 4, 3:22 am, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote: >> >> Obamacare will have the same effects. When the regime needs >> >> involuntary human guinea pigs, they WON'T be rich white hedge-fund >> >> managers or doctors who'd know what they're infected with. Instead - >> >> just like in the Tuskeegee syphilis experiment - they will be Obama's >> >> uneducated "cousins" in some slum, or maybe some just-here illegal >> >> aliens not speaking English. >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Be simpler if you just listed everyone/everything you hate. You > > > really don't know much about anything else.
>> ... Have you never heard of the Tuskeegee experiments? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Everybody has, it's nothing to feel all clever about. > Of course, that topic has absolutely NOTHING to do with real > health care. Every normal person, in every first-world democratic > nation knows that REAL health care is a resource shared among all the > citizens of a nation. > But you don't care about real people and real health care - you > couldn't care less about the U.S. or its people. You're paid to smear > real health care with nonsense. > You're a shill. You're here only because you've been told to > support corporate profits instead of Americans' health. > Tell us all - how much do you make from lying? Seriously, how > much does it cost the corporations to buy a fool who will go on line > to bray nonsense for the sake of corporate-profits, rationed, > grotesquely expensive health care? > If you're an American, tell us how much YOU pay for health > care... can't afford it? Stuck with what your min-wage job allows. > Or maybe you have a good cheap corporate medical plan as part of your > payoff. Do you?
False premise. Even your name is a false premise.
When the hippies were libing in the Haight and eschewing capitalist society who in the hell cared for them? Who built the buildings, made the clothes, made and delivered the food. All while they sat around getting stoned (on drugs sold for profit) playing musical instruments made and sold for profit.
On Nov 4, 11:20 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) wrote:
> When the hippies were libing in the Haight and eschewing capitalist society > who in the hell cared for them? Who built the buildings, made the clothes, > made and delivered the food. All while they sat around getting stoned (on > drugs sold for profit) playing musical instruments made and sold for profit.
The whole "counterculture" of the "Mustang Maoists" of the Sixties was largely financed by drug selling and partly financed by participants' parents or grandparents - in other words, by the capitalist system they "rejected." "Lucy in the sky with diamonds" wasn't dropping down money to fund it.
> > On Nov 4, 10:17 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) > > wrote: > >> freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote in > >> news:85532ca7-0b7b-43f3-adce- e35fa0f64...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
> >> > On Nov 4, 3:22 am, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote: > >> >> Obamacare will have the same effects. When the regime needs > >> >> involuntary human guinea pigs, they WON'T be rich white hedge-fund > >> >> managers or doctors who'd know what they're infected with. Instead - > >> >> just like in the Tuskeegee syphilis experiment - they will be Obama's > >> >> uneducated "cousins" in some slum, or maybe some just-here illegal > >> >> aliens not speaking English. > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Be simpler if you just listed everyone/everything you hate. You > > > > really don't know much about anything else.
> >> ... Have you never heard of the Tuskeegee experiments? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Everybody has, it's nothing to feel all clever about. > > Of course, that topic has absolutely NOTHING to do with real > > health care. Every normal person, in every first-world democratic > > nation knows that REAL health care is a resource shared among all the > > citizens of a nation. > > But you don't care about real people and real health care - you > > couldn't care less about the U.S. or its people. You're paid to smear > > real health care with nonsense. > > You're a shill. You're here only because you've been told to > > support corporate profits instead of Americans' health. > > Tell us all - how much do you make from lying? Seriously, how > > much does it cost the corporations to buy a fool who will go on line > > to bray nonsense for the sake of corporate-profits, rationed, > > grotesquely expensive health care? > > If you're an American, tell us how much YOU pay for health > > care... can't afford it? Stuck with what your min-wage job allows. > > Or maybe you have a good cheap corporate medical plan as part of your > > payoff. Do you? -snip-
> When the hippies were libing in the Haight and eschewing capitalist society
> who in the hell cared for them? Who built the buildings, made the clothes, > made and delivered the food. All while they sat around getting stoned (on > drugs sold for profit) playing musical instruments made and sold for profit.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ The *nerve* them, acting as if they were rich, pretending to have the privileges of their betters! Looks like the rage and envy you felt then made such a big impression that you still can't think coherently about events in the present world... The topic isn't the Haight 40 years ago. The topic is medical care. REAL medical care: You know, medicine as applied to the real needs of human beings. NOT "a penny's worth of care for a dollar's worth of payments". And NOT "whatever is left after corporattions rake off their profits". Have someone explain it to you. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------
> Nothing is free but the air that you breath. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ Tell it to your corporate sponsors - they think they get first dibs on Americans' paychecks. For free. Forever.
> > On Nov 4, 10:17 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) > > wrote: > >> freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote in > >> news:85532ca7-0b7b-43f3-adce- e35fa0f64...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
> >> > On Nov 4, 3:22 am, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote: > >> >> Obamacare will have the same effects. When the regime needs > >> >> involuntary human guinea pigs, they WON'T be rich white hedge-fund > >> >> managers or doctors who'd know what they're infected with. Instead - > >> >> just like in the Tuskeegee syphilis experiment - they will be Obama's > >> >> uneducated "cousins" in some slum, or maybe some just-here illegal > >> >> aliens not speaking English. > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Be simpler if you just listed everyone/everything you hate. You > > > > really don't know much about anything else.
> >> ... Have you never heard of the Tuskeegee experiments? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Everybody has, it's nothing to feel all clever about. > > Of course, that topic has absolutely NOTHING to do with real > > health care. Every normal person, in every first-world democratic > > nation knows that REAL health care is a resource shared among all the > > citizens of a nation. > > But you don't care about real people and real health care - you > > couldn't care less about the U.S. or its people. You're paid to smear > > real health care with nonsense. > > You're a shill. You're here only because you've been told to > > support corporate profits instead of Americans' health. > > Tell us all - how much do you make from lying? Seriously, how > > much does it cost the corporations to buy a fool who will go on line > > to bray nonsense for the sake of corporate-profits, rationed, > > grotesquely expensive health care? > > If you're an American, tell us how much YOU pay for health > > care... can't afford it? Stuck with what your min-wage job allows. > > Or maybe you have a good cheap corporate medical plan as part of your > > payoff. Do you?
> False premise. Even your name is a false premise.
> When the hippies were libing in the Haight and eschewing capitalist society > who in the hell cared for them? Who built the buildings, made the clothes, > made and delivered the food.
Ummmm? People who actually worked for a living? Not the idle wealthy.
On Nov 4, 7:14 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) wrote:
> Slo <slost...@gmail.com> wrote in news:9fef21e2-76ef-4b0f-ac2a- > af133b4e3...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> > On Nov 4, 12:13 am, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote: > >> The last time Washington controlled health care for nonmilitary > >> Americans was from 1933-72 - in the infamous Tuskeegee syphilis > >> experiments.
> > This is one of the most idiotic things I've ever read.
> Facts and history are idiotic? Well if it interferes with your plans, I guess > it would.
> It happened. The government did it. I guess they weren't there to help those > black men.
For fuck's sake, a Megele-like medical experiment that's a disgraceful incident in US history is *not* "health care"! That's like calling the internment of Japanese-Americans a fun-filled, all expenses paid vacation!
On Nov 4, 7:13 pm, Slo <slost...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 4, 7:14 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) > wrote: > > It happened. The government did it. I guess they weren't there to help those > > black men.
> For fuck's sake, a Megele-like medical experiment that's a disgraceful > incident in US history is *not* "health care"!
Mengele was a DOCTOR, dummy. Where "health care" ends and "crime" begins is in the eye of the beholder - and the Tuskeegee syphilis experiments weren't alone in American 20th century history in using unknowing, unconsenting poorer nonwhites as human guinea pigs. Another similar study exposed pregnant poor American women to radioactive crap to see the effects. Ask a BLACK American if he trusts federal control of medicine.
On Nov 4, 8:12 pm, Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Medicare seems to run pretty good for several of you in here. > I don't see you bitching about that. --------------------------------------------------------- 'Cause God, who's a republican, done give that to 'em. Medicare, Veterans Benefits, and Social Security ain't socialism, but that health care stuff where nobody don't make a profit, just spend the money on sick people? That's socialism.
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:18:58 -0800 (PST), freeisbest
<demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote: >On Nov 4, 8:12 pm, Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Medicare seems to run pretty good for several of you in here. > > I don't see you bitching about that. >--------------------------------------------------------- > 'Cause God, who's a republican, done give that to 'em. > Medicare, Veterans Benefits, and Social Security ain't socialism, >but that health care stuff where nobody don't make a profit, just >spend the money on sick people? That's socialism.
> freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote in > news:85532ca7-0b7b-43f3-adce- > e35fa0f64...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
> > On Nov 4, 3:22 am, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote: > >> Obamacare will have the same effects. When the regime needs > >> involuntary human guinea pigs, they WON'T be rich white hedge-fund > >> managers or doctors who'd know what they're infected with. Instead - > >> just like in the Tuskeegee syphilis experiment - they will be Obama's > >> uneducated "cousins" in some slum, or maybe some just-here illegal > >> aliens not speaking English. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Be simpler if you just listed everyone/everything you hate. You > > really don't know much about anything else.
> ... Have you never heard of the Tuskeegee experiments?
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everybody has, it's nothing to feel all clever about. Of course, that topic has absolutely NOTHING to do with real health care. Every normal person, in every first-world democratic nation knows that REAL health care is a resource shared among all the citizens of a nation. But you don't care about real people and real health care - you couldn't care less about the U.S. or its people. You're paid to smear real health care with nonsense. You're a shill. You're here only because you've been told to support corporate profits instead of Americans' health. Tell us all - how much do you make from lying? Seriously, how much does it cost the corporations to buy a fool who will go on line to bray nonsense for the sake of corporate-profits, rationed, grotesquely expensive health care? If you're an American, tell us how much YOU pay for health care... can't afford it? Stuck with what your min-wage job allows. Or maybe you have a good cheap corporate medical plan as part of your payoff. Do you? foaming at the mouth ==== than there are those experiments with LSD in the prison system, and military. Ofcourse you only find these thing out many years later. ===When you look to Govenment, you lose your freedoms. With the Government in your life,by way of health care, every thing will be known about you, everything will be controlled. For instance, if you are old, no flu shot for you grannie, good luck, don't let the door hit you on the way out-- ----------Not available to you Grannie, the Government is calling the shots, BTW, your shot? oh yeah, gave it to the detainees, Sorry about that!
> > On Nov 4, 10:17 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) > > wrote: > >> freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote in > >> news:85532ca7-0b7b-43f3-adce- > >> e35fa0f64...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
> >> > On Nov 4, 3:22 am, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote: > >> >> Obamacare will have the same effects. When the regime needs > >> >> involuntary human guinea pigs, they WON'T be rich white hedge-fund > >> >> managers or doctors who'd know what they're infected with. Instead - > >> >> just like in the Tuskeegee syphilis experiment - they will be > >> >> Obama's > >> >> uneducated "cousins" in some slum, or maybe some just-here illegal > >> >> aliens not speaking English. > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Be simpler if you just listed everyone/everything you hate. You > > > > really don't know much about anything else.
> >> ... Have you never heard of the Tuskeegee experiments? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Everybody has, it's nothing to feel all clever about. > > Of course, that topic has absolutely NOTHING to do with real > > health care. Every normal person, in every first-world democratic > > nation knows that REAL health care is a resource shared among all the > > citizens of a nation. > > But you don't care about real people and real health care - you > > couldn't care less about the U.S. or its people. You're paid to smear > > real health care with nonsense. > > You're a shill. You're here only because you've been told to > > support corporate profits instead of Americans' health. > > Tell us all - how much do you make from lying? Seriously, how > > much does it cost the corporations to buy a fool who will go on line > > to bray nonsense for the sake of corporate-profits, rationed, > > grotesquely expensive health care? > > If you're an American, tell us how much YOU pay for health > > care... can't afford it? Stuck with what your min-wage job allows. > > Or maybe you have a good cheap corporate medical plan as part of your > > payoff. Do you? -snip-
> When the hippies were libing in the Haight and eschewing capitalist society
> who in the hell cared for them? Who built the buildings, made the clothes, > made and delivered the food. All while they sat around getting stoned (on > drugs sold for profit) playing musical instruments made and sold for > profit.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ The *nerve* them, acting as if they were rich, pretending to have the privileges of their betters! Looks like the rage and envy you felt then made such a big impression that you still can't think coherently about events in the present world... The topic isn't the Haight 40 years ago. The topic is medical care. REAL medical care: You know, medicine as applied to the real needs of human beings. NOT "a penny's worth of care for a dollar's worth of payments". And NOT "whatever is left after corporattions rake off their profits". Have someone explain it to you. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------
> Nothing is free but the air that you breath. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ Tell it to your corporate sponsors - they think they get first dibs on Americans' paychecks. For free. Forever. ---foaming at the mouth, again. head exploding
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