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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese, ott.vietnamese
From: rangnguyen <rangngu...@gmail.com>
Date: 6 Nov 2009 12:40:21 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 1:40 am
Subject: Ha?i qua^n VC chi? la` ddo^` a(n ha.i, chi? bie^'t xu'i da.i ngu+ da^n !
DDa?ng xu'i da.i ngu+ da^n: Vi` so+. pha?i ddo^'i dda^`u vo+'i TQ, dda?ng va`
Nha` Nu+o+'c ddu+a su'ng cho ngu+ da^n dde^? dda'nh nhau vo+'i TQ, ne^'u co'
chuye^.n xa?y ra, ngu+ da^n se~ bi. ddi tu`, dda?ng vo^ to^.i, la.i co' the^m
co^ng ddo^'i vo+'i dda`n anh TQ

* Ne^n hay kho^ng ne^n tha`nh la^.p ca'c ddo^.i da^n qua^n ba?o ve^. bie^?n
dda?o?

RFA, 4.11.09 - Be^n le^` ky` ho.p quo^'c ho^.i vu+`a qua, trung tu+o+'ng Le^
Quang Bi`nh cho ba'o chi' bie^'t quan ddie^?m cu?a o^ng ra(`ng VN ne^n tha`nh
la^.p ca'c ddo^.i da^n qua^n co' trang bi. vu~ khi' dde^? ba?o ve^. bie^?n dda?o
cu?a mi`nh.
Lie^n tu.c bi. li'nh va` ca?nh sa't bie^?n Ta`u ba('t giu+~, dda'nh dda^.p va`
ti.ch thu ta`i sa?n, nhie^`u ngu+ da^n VN kho^ng da'm tie^'p tu.c ra kho+i
dda'nh ba('t ha?i sa?n
Ngay sau ddo', y' kie^'n na`y cu?a tu+o+'ng Le^ Quang Bi`nh, chu? nhie^.m Uy?
Ban Quo^'c Pho`ng-An ninh Quo^'c Ho^.i, dda~ bi. du+ lua^.n trong va` ngoa`i
nu+o+'c pha?n ddo^'i gay ga('t vo+'i nhie^`u ly' do ddu+a ra.
U+'ng pho' vo+'i Ta`u
Va^'n dde^` bie^?n DDo^ng va` ngu+ da^n va^~n luo^n la` mo^'i quan ta^m ha`ng
dda^`u cu?a du+ lua^.n. Kho^ng nhu+~ng vi` ma'u cha?y ruo^.t me^`m ma` co`n
lie^n quan dde^'n chu? quye^`n dda^'t nu+o+'c. Ha`ng nga`n na(m qua, cha o^ng
chu'ng ta tu+` trie^`u dda.i na`y sang trie^`u dda.i kha'c thay nhau giu+~ gi`n
bo+` co~i ma(.c cho su+'c ma.nh cu?a la^n bang a'p lu+.c ma.nh me~ dde^'n dda^u.
La'ng gie^`ng phu+o+ng Ba('c tu+` ha`ng nga`n na(m nay chu+a bao gio+` tu+` bo?
y' ddi.nh xa^m chie^'m VN, nga`y xu+a thi` tre^n dda^'t lie^`n, ro^`i dde^'n
nhu+~ng tha^.p nie^n ga^`n dda^y thi` tranh da`nh tre^n bie^?n.
Chie^'m Hoa`ng Sa, la^'n a'p Tru+o+`ng Sa, ve~ la.i ba?n ddo^` vo+'i ddu+o+`ng
lu+o+~i bo` ga^`n nhu+ nuo^'t tro.n mo^.t vu`ng la~nh ha?i to lo+'n cu?a VN....
ro^`i ba('t giam ngu+ da^n ddo`i tie^`n chuo^.c, kho^ng cho ho. va`o tra'nh ba~o
theo tho^ng le^. nha^n dda.o quo^'c te^'.
Nhu+~ng ddo^.ng tha'i na`y lie^n tu.c ga^y pha^~n no^. cho ngu+o+`i da^n Vie^.t
va` mo.i con ma('t ddang hu+o+'ng ve^` bie^?n DDo^ng.
Co' le~ cu`ng chia se? vo+'i nhu+~ng quan nga.i cu?a du+ lua^.n ve^` kha? na(ng
pho`ng ve^. cu?a dda^'t nu+o+'c, o^ng Le^ Quang Bi`nh, chu? nhie^.m Uy? Ban
Quo^'c Pho`ng-An ninh Quo^'c Ho^.i vu+`a ddu+a ra y' dde^` nghi. ne^n tha`nh
la^.p ddo^.i da^n qua^n ba?o ve^. bie^?n.
O^ng Bi`nh cho ra(`ng vo+'i Lua^.t da^n qua^n tu+. ve^., VN se~ pha't trie^?n
to^'t ho+n lu+.c lu+o+.ng da^n qua^n, tu+. ve^. bie^?n, la`m no`ng co^'t ba?o
ve^. ngu+o+`i da^n tre^n bie^?n cu~ng nhu+ giu'p ho. xa'c ddi.nh to^'t ho+n
dda^u la` vu`ng bie^?n cu?a VN, dda^u la` vu`ng bie^?n cu?a nu+o+'c ngoa`i.
DDe^? trang bi. cho toa`n bo^. ngu+ da^n thi` nga^n sa'ch nha` nu+o+'c pha?i
ga'nh ra^'t lo+'n. Y' kie^'n cu?a gia'o su+ Carl Thayer, nguye^n co^' va^'n cho
ho.c vie^.n Quo^'c pho`ng U'c ddu+a nha^.n xe't:
“DDe^? trang bi. ca'c du.ng cu. to^'i ta^n nhu+ he^. tho^'ng ddi.nh vi. cu~ng
nhu+ ca'c vu~ khi' ca' nha^n ddo`i ho?i ra^'t nhie^`u nga^n sa'ch. Trong giai
ddoa.n na`y i't nha^'t ha`ng tra(m trie^.u ddo^ la pha?i bo? ra cho ngu+ da^n
ma` ddie^`u na`y to^i tin la` ra^'t kho' thu+.c hie^.n.”
...ba(`ng da^n qua^n tu+. ve^.?
Ma(.t kha'c, nha^.n xe't ve^` kha? na(ng nha^.n thu+'c ranh gio+'i bie^?n cu?a
ngu+ da^n o^ng Bi`nh kha(?ng ddi.nh ra(`ng ngu+ da^n VN ra bie^?n kho^ng xa'c
ddi.nh ddu+o+.c dda^u la` bie^?n VN, dda^u la` bie^?n nu+o+'c ngoa`i.
O+? vu`ng gia'p ranh vo+'i Campuchia ddo^i khi ngu+ da^n Vie^.t xa^m pha.m vu`ng
bie^?n cu?a ba.n, bi. lu+.c lu+o+.ng ha?i qua^n Campuchia ba('t.
Vu`ng cho^`ng la^'n, gia'p ranh vo+'i Ta`u cu~ng va^.y... Ngu+o+.c la.i, ta`u
thuye^`n nu+o+'c ngoa`i nhie^`u khi cu~ng sang vu`ng bie^?n VN.
Tuy no'i la` giu'p ngu+ da^n xa'c ddi.nh vu`ng bie^?n, nhu+ng o^ng Bi`nh kho^ng
ddu+a ra ddu+o+.c ba(`ng ca'ch na`o dde^? nhu+~ng ngu+ da^n kho^ng ddu+o+.c
hua^'n luye^.n la.i co' the^? su+? du.ng ca'c phu+o+ng tie^.n ky~ thua^.t ddo`i
ho?i tri`nh ddo^. ki'e^'n thu+'c nha^'t ddi.nh dde^? co' the^? va^.n ha`nh
ddu+o+.c nhu+~ng phu+o+ng tie^.n hie^.n dda.i nha(`m xa'c ddi.nh vi. tri' con
ta`u tre^n dda.i du+o+ng me^nh mo^ng?
Trong qua' khu+', dda~ nhie^`u la^`n ngu+ da^n VN kho^ng xa'c ddi.nh ddu+o+.c
vi. tri' cu?a ta`u mi`nh ma(.c du` tre^n ta`u co' trang bi. ma'y ddi.nh vi.. Ly'
do la` ho. khho^ng the^? hie^?u he^'t nhu+~ng tho^ng so^' cu?a ma'y mo^.t ca'ch
tu+o+`ng ta^.n.
O^ng Le^ Quang Bi`nh cu~ng dde^` nghi. ra(`ng da^n qua^n bie^?n se~ ddu+o+.c
to^? chu+'c o+? ca'c xa~ ven bie^?n, ca'c xa~ dda?o. Co`n tu+. ve^. bie^?n
ddu+o+.c to^? chu+'c o+? ca'c doanh nghie^.p, ddo+n vi. kinh te^' hoa.t ddo^.ng
tre^n bie^?n nhu+ ca'c ho+.p ta'c xa~ dda'nh ca', ddo+n vi. va^.n ta?i tre^n
bie^?n.
DDe^` nghi. na`y cu?a o^ng Bi`nh khie^'n ngu+o+`i ta nho+' la.i tho+`i gian
ga^`n dda^y khi cu+o+'p bie^?n lo^.ng ha`nh tre^n vu`ng bie^?n Somali thuo^.c
DDo^ng Phi, cu+o+'p ddi nhie^`u ta`u va^.n ta?i ddo`i tie^`n chuo^.c khie^'n
the^' gio+'i da^'y le^n nhu+~ng lo nga.i va` nhie^`u nu+o+'c dda~ gu+?i ta`u
dde^'n giu+~ an ninh.
The^' nhu+ng tre^n mo^.t khu vu+.c ro^.ng lo+'n ha`ng trie^.u ca^y so^', kho^ng
mo^.t nu+o+'c na`o co' ddu? kha? na(ng kie^?m tra mo^.t ca'ch toa`n ve.n va` vi`
va^.y gia?i pha'p thue^ tu+. ve^. tu+` ca'c co+ quan an ninh dda~ ddu+o+.c a'p
du.ng.
Ta.i My~, dda.o lua^.t ve^` trang bi. vu~ khi' cho thu+o+ng thuye^`n dda~ bi.
quo^'c ho^.i ba~i bo? tu+` na(m 1819 va` to+'i nay ra^'t i't ngu+o+`i dde^`
nghi. gia?i pha'p tu+. trang bi. vu~ khi' cho ta`u buo^n vi` ddie^`u na`y se~
ga^y nguy hie^?m cho chi'nh ca'c thu+o+ng thuye^`n.
Ne^'u ngu+ da^n Vie^.t ddu+o+.c trang bi. vu~ khi' du` la` tho^ so+, ddi dda'nh
ba('t ca' xa bo+`, ho. se~ ga(.p nhu+~ng ta`u nu+o+'c kha'c cu~ng ha`nh nghe^`
tre^n bie^?n. Ne^'u kho^ng may, mo^.t vu. xung ddo^.t xa?y ra nhu+ nhie^`u la^`n
tru+o+'c dda^y, chi? vo+'i mo^.t vie^n dda.n so+ xua^'t ba('n ra kho`i no`ng,
tha?m ki.ch se~ xa?y ra cho chi'nh ho. chu+' kho^ng cho ai kha'c.
Nhu+~ng ngu+ da^n na`y hoa(.c se~ bi. ha?i qua^n nu+o+'c ngoa`i dda'nh chi`m,
ne^'u may ma('n ho+n ho. se~ bi. ba('t vo+'i to^.i danh cu+o+'p bie^?n. Ca? hai
ki.ch ba?n dde^`u kho' the^? cha^'p nha^.n.
Nha^.n xe't ve^` dde^` nghi. na`y, Gia'o su+ Carl Thayer cho bie^'t: “DDie^`u
na`y thu+.c su+. kho^ng an toa`n cho ngu+ da^n. Ho. se~ pha?i ddo^'i dda^`u
tru+.c tie^'p vo+'i ta`u ha?i qua^n Ta`u. Trao vu~ khi' va`o tay ngu+ da^n la`
sai la^`m vi` ho. kho^ng ddu? kha? na(ng chie^'n dda^'u nhu+ mo^.t ngu+o+`i
li'nh chuye^n nghie^.p. VN pha?i trang bi. cho qua^n ddo^.i cu?a mi`nh dde^?
ba?o ve^. ngu+o+`i da^n va` kho^ng ne^n thi' nghie^.m nhu+~ng phu+o+ng thu+'c
lie^`u li~nh.”
O^ng Le^ Quang Bi`nh cu~ng thu+`a nha^.n ra(`ng VN dda~ mo^.t va`i la^`n tu+`ng
trang bi. vu~ khi' cho ta`u ca', nhu+ng khi ta`u VN va`o vu`ng bie^?n nu+o+'c
ngoa`i, bi. ho. quy la` cu+o+'p bie^?n, va` ro^`i o^ng ddu+a ra gia?i pha'p
ra(`ng VN se~ ti'nh toa'n dde^? khi trang bi. pha?i co' gia^'y chu+'ng nha^.n
dde^? dda?m ba?o cho ngu+ da^n co' quye^`n giu+~ vu~ khi' ma` tra'nh nha^`m
la^~n la` cu+o+'p bie^?n.
Trong hoa`n ca?nh kho'i lu+?a cu?a tranh cha^'p, vie^.c thuy? thu? ta`u nu+o+'c
ngoa`i ye^u ca^`u xe't gia^'y phe'p mang vu~ khi' cu?a ngu+ da^n VN ra^'t kho'
the^? xa?y ra. Ngu+o+`i ca^'p gia^'y na`y cho du` la` chi'nh quye^`n mo^.t
nu+o+'c cha(ng nu+~a cu~ng kho^ng the^? buo^.c ngoa.i nha^n tua^n theo lua^.t
le^. cu?a mi`nh tre^n vu`ng bie^?n quo^'c te^'.
Va^'n dde^` thie^'t ye^'u nu+~a la` lie^.u ngu+ da^n co' ddu? can dda?m dde^?
mang vu~ khi' le^n ta`u mi`nh hay kho^ng khi ho. y' htu+'c ra^'t ro~ vie^.c mang
su'ng le^n ta`u dda'nh ca' se~ la` mo^'i nguy hie^?m kho^ng lu+o+`ng cho sinh
ma.ng cu?a ho..
Mo^.t ngu+ da^n tu+`ng bi. ha?i qua^n Ta`u cu+o+'p, dda'nh dda^.p va` ba('t giam
cho bie^'t: “No'i chung ba^y gio+` ho. giao su'ng em cu~ng kho^ng da'm dda^u,
ta`u cu?a ho. co' su'ng hai no`ng lo+'n la('m ne^'u co' gi` thi` ho. ba('n
che^'t.”
Du+ lua^.n cho ra(`ng nhu+~ng dde^` nghi. duy y' chi', thie^'u co+ so+? lua^.t
pha'p cu~ng nhu+ kho^ng theo tho^ng le^. quo^'c te^', kho^ng nhu+~ng cha(?ng
mang la.i ke^'t qua? na`o ma` co`n la`m ha.i dde^'n chi'nh sa'ch quo^'c pho`ng
cu?a quo^'c gia.
Ga^y nguy hie^?m cho ba?n tha^n ngu+o+`i da^n, va` nha^'t la` se~ mo+? ra mo^.t
co+ ho^.i to^'t cho nhu+~ng ke? sa(~n sa`ng ga^y ha^'n, ddang la(m la(m cho+`
nhu+~ng di.p may dde^? buo^.c VN thu.t va`o dda^'t lie^`n nga`y ca`ng sa^u ho+n
nu+~a.


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Discussion subject changed to "HAI QUAN VIETNAM DDANG ANH DUNG BAO BE^BO+` KO~I V8ETNAM...Re: Ha?i qua^n VC chi? la` ddo^` a(n ha." by El Chino
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 More options Nov 7, 11:46 am
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From: El Chino <elchinoboatconscie...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:46:43 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 11:46 am
Subject: HAI QUAN VIETNAM DDANG ANH DUNG BAO BE^BO+` KO~I V8ETNAM...Re: Ha?i qua^n VC chi? la` ddo^` a(n ha.

ga? kho^ng  mo.i vietzan  ???   A,nose fr

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Discussion subject changed to "HAI QUAN VIETNAM DDANG ANH DUNG BAO BE^BO+` KO~I CHO TA`U PHU`" by hotac
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:34:05 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: HAI QUAN VIETNAM DDANG ANH DUNG BAO BE^BO+` KO~I CHO TA`U PHU`
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Discussion subject changed to "Ha?i qua^n VC chi? la` ddo^` a(n ha.i, chi? bie^'t xu'i da.i ngu+ da^n !" by tuna
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From: tuna <tu...@nz11.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:11:10 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Ha?i qua^n VC chi? la` ddo^` a(n ha.i, chi? bie^'t xu'i da.i ngu+ da^n !
DDo' la` ma^'y tha(`ng Vietcong la`m ma^'y chuye^.n ngu
DDu+o+ng nhie^n cho da^n va`o tha`nh pha^`n "ha?i ta.(c" ne^'u
bo.n trung quo^'c muo^'n vie^.n co+' la` ta`u dda'nh ca' VN ba('n va`o
ho.

Ai la` chu+'ng la` ai ba('n tru+o+'c giu+~a bie^?n ?
Bo.n con cha'u tha(`ng ho^` ta(.c cu+' xu'i da^n va`o cho^~ che^'t ma`
kho^ng da'm mo+? mie^.ng cho^'ng bo.n Trung quo^'c o+? ho^.i nghi.
va` tre^n tru+o+`ng quo^'c te^'

DDo^` cho' dde? ngu , pha?n bo^.i, ddie^'m da`ng va` he`n ha.

tuna,

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