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Um Bala  
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 More options Nov 4, 7:52 am
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: Um Bala <pb5...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:52:44 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 7:52 am
Subject: Ha^.u qua? cu?a vie^.c gie^'t nhu*ng ke? ra ha`ng hay bi. ba('t du` la`gie^'t khu?ng bo^'
Xa~ ho^.i Ta^y Phu*o*ng le^n a'n nhu*~ng quo^'c gia tra ta^'n hay ba
('n gie^'t ngu*o*`i bi. ba('t hay  dda^`u ha`ng du` tu` binh du` ho.
la` te^n khu?ng bo^'. Ga^`n da^y cha'nh phu? Bush bi. the^' gio*'i
le^n a'n vi` tra ta^'n va` gie^'t nhu*~ng te^n khu?ng bo^' bi. ba('t
va` cha'nh phu? Obama sau na`y cho ddie^`u tra ca'c vie^n chu*'c CIA
pha.m to^.i.
Khi xu*a VNCH ca^`n vie^.n tro*. cu?a kho^'i  Ta^y Phu*o*ng dde^? sinh
to^`n vi` de doa. cu?a CS, mo^.t ca'ch de^~ bi. cu'p vie^.n tro*. va`
bi. ba'n ddu*'ng cho CS la` co^ng khai gie^'t ke? han`g dda^`u. VNCH
ra le^.nh gie^'t hai anh em o^ng Die^.m sau khi ho. ra ha`ng da~ la`m
ngu*o*`i My~ (ke^? ca? Kennedy va` Johnson) kinh nga.c, chi'nh TT
Johnson chu*?i VNCH la` qua^n co^n ddo^` (thug) , sau ddo' da^n the^'
gio*'i tha^'y tu*o*'ng Loan xu*? tu*? VC  khi ho. xem tin tu*'c tre^n
TV buo^?i chie^`u, bu*'c hi`nh xu*? tu*? loan truye^`n tre^n sa'ch
bao' va` video ca nha.c la`m da^n My~ the^m  thu` ghe't mie^`n Nam,
vi` ho. lo so*. CSVN cu~ng se~ tra? mie^'ng dem ra xu*? tu*? con em
ho. dang bi. giam ca^`m.
Tha`nh ra tu*` mo^.t mie^`n Nam co' cha'nh nghi~a tu*. ve^. cho^'ng
xa^m la(ng tie^`n ddo^`n cu?a the^' gio*'i tu*. do, the^' gio*'i la.i
nga~ theo be^nh vu*.c CS va` le^n a'n My~ ba^'t nha^n (vi` VNCH).
Ngoa`i ho^.i nghi PG the^' gio*'i ta.i Kyoto na(m 1970,  Gia'o Hoa`ng
sau ddo' cu~ng ddo`i My~ ru't qua^n dde^? ma(.c cho VNCH che^'t. O^ng
tu*` cho^'i tie^'p kie^'n TT VNCH, nhu*ng la.i ddo'n tie^'p bu` nhi`n
tay sai mie^`n Ba('c la` Nguye^~n Thi. Bi`nh.
Tru*o*`ng ho*.p na`y go^'ng nhu* co^ ga'i bi. hie^'p da^m thu*a ke?
hie^'p da^m mi`nh  ra to`a thi` co^ ga'i bi. du* lua^.n xi? va~ le^n
a'n, trong khi do' tha(`ng hie^'p da^m la.i ddu*o*.c tra('ng a'n
ddu*o*.c nho*?n nho* la^'y he^'t ta`i sa?n cu?a na.n nha^n ro^`i dduo^?
i na.n nha^n ra bie^?n, chi? vi` mo^.t va`i ke? thue^'u chi' tue^.
gie^'t ngu*o*`ima` kho^ng nghi~ dde^'n ha^.u qua?.

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:))  
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 More options Nov 4, 8:17 am
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From: ":))" <bennypo...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:17:42 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 8:17 am
Subject: Re: Ha^.u qua? cu?a vie^.c gie^'t nhu*ng ke? ra ha`ng hay bi. ba('t du` la`gie^'t khu?ng bo^'
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:52:44 -0800 (PST), Um Bala <pb5...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Xa~ ho^.i Ta^y Phu*o*ng le^n a'n nhu*~ng quo^'c gia tra ta^'n hay ba
>('n gie^'t ngu*o*`i bi. ba('t hay  dda^`u ha`ng du` tu` binh du` ho.
>la` te^n khu?ng bo^'. Ga^`n da^y cha'nh phu? Bush bi. the^' gio*'i
>le^n a'n vi` tra ta^'n va` gie^'t nhu*~ng te^n khu?ng bo^' bi. ba('t
>va` cha'nh phu? Obama sau na`y cho ddie^`u tra ca'c vie^n chu*'c CIA
>pha.m to^.i.

DDa so^' da^n cuo^`ng ti'n Ho^`i gia'o hie^.n va^~n ddang bi. giam
giu*~ o*? Quantanamo dde^`u co' di'nh da'ng dde^'n khu?ng bo^' A?
Ra^.p.

Vie^.c la`m tra ta^'n cu?a co' pha^`n ru`ng ro*.n va` vi pha.m vo*'i
pha'p ly' nha^n ba?n cu?a Hoa-Ky`. Nhu*ng nhie^`u nghi. si~, da^n
bie^?u va` expert cho^'ng khu?ng bo^' co' dde^` nghi. la` chi'nh
quye^`n Obama ne^n cho*i ca'i lo*` vu. na`y ddi. -- Chuye^.n dda~ qua
ro^`i (ne^n tie^'p tu.c tra ta^'n ta^.n ti`nh qua^n khu?ng
bo^'...nhu*ng ddu*`ng cho ba'o chi' bie^'t thi` OK Salem)

:-))))

Note: Nho*` nhu*~ng vu. tra ta^'n ta^.n ti`nh na`y ma` CIA va` chi'nh
phu? Mi~ dda~ bie^'t ddu*o*.c kha' nhie^`u ddu*o*`ng gia^y u?ng ho^.
qua^n khu?ng bo^' trong so^' ca'c hoa`ng to^.c va` tai to ma(.t lo*'n
cu?a Saudi Arabia. -- Yep, ma^'y te^n ddo' mo^.t ho^`i dda~ co' ddu*'a
bi. che^'t vi` kha't nu*o*'c ngoa`i sa ma.c & co' ddu*'a thi` bi.
che^'t vi` tai na.n xe co^., va^n va^n...

3 Cheers for CIA trong vu. na`y !  :-)))

(Chuye^.n o^ng Die^.m & Nhu la` chuye^.n kha'c. Kho^ng ba`n vo^.i o*?
dda^y)

:-)
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 More options Nov 4, 7:19 pm
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From: Um Bala <pb5...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 06:19:15 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 7:19 pm
Subject: Re: Ha^.u qua? cu?a vie^.c gie^'t nhu*ng ke? ra ha`ng hay bi. ba('t du` la`gie^'t khu?ng bo^'
On Nov 3, 9:17 pm, ":))" <bennypo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Da^y la` ca'i va(n hoa' cu?a da^n My~, khi ho. kho^ng cha^'p nha^.n
ha`nh ddo^.ng cu?a cha'nh phu? My~ thi` ho. bo? theo ke? thu`. Tu*`
1968, ca'c nho'm pha?n chie^'n vie^.n tro*. thuo^'c men tie^`n ba.c
cho CSBV, Jane Fonda ho^ ha`o nu*o*'c My~ do^?i qua co^.ng sa?n, pha?n
chie^'n  do^'t co*` My~ treo co*` MTGPMN tta.i thu? ddo^.Da^n My~
ba^`u phie^'u cho ca'c da^n bie^?u nghi. si~ cha^'p nha^.n thua
tra^.n. Va` QH My~ na(m 1972 a'p lu*.c cha'nh phu? My~ pha?i ru't
qua^n ngay, ne^'u kho^ng thi` ho. cu'p tie^`n. DDe^'n 1974 thi` ho.
kho^ng cho du`ng tie^`n vie^.n tro*. My~ (Quy~ ddo^'i gia') dde^? tra?
luo*ng cho qua^n ddo^.i va` ca?nh sa't. Toa` DS My~ pha?i lo*` di
kho^ng ba'o ca'o.
Sau ca'c vu. tai tie^'ng, da^n My~ nay ru.c ri.ch ddo`i bo?
Afghanistan va` Iraq. Ngay ca? Obama khi tranh cu*? cu~ng do`i bo?
Iraq. Ne^'u kho^ng co' lobby ma.nh cu?a nho'm AIPAC thi` QH My~ cu~ng
dda~ ca('t nga^n sa'ch ddo`i Obama ru't qua^n kho?i Iraq va`
Afghanistan n(m nay.
Nu*o*'c My~ la` nu*o*'c da^n chu?, cha'nh phu? My~ tuy co' ke? ma
gia'o nhu*ng da^n My~ co`n dda.o ddu*'c la('m. Ca'c hi`nh a?nh tu*.
thie^u, tu*o*'ng Loan ba('n VC, Kim Phu'c, My~ lai la`m ho. le^n a'n
VNCH vi` ho. kho^ng tha^'y hi`nh cu?a VC.  Tha`nh kie^'n xa^'u ve^`
VNCH da~ co' sa(~n ne^n na(m 1968 CS tha?m sa't da^n Hue^',  CS no'i
ngu*o*.c la.i la` qua^n VNCH gie^'t tu` binh thi` da^n My~ nhie^`u
ngu*o`i cu~ng tin nhu* va^.y vi` tha`nh kie^^n.  Ba'o chi' nghe
chuye^.n VM ba('t ro^`i tra? tu*. do cho NDD na(m 1945 nhu*ng VNCH
la.i gie^'t NDD va` ca'c tu*o*'ng la~nh ne^n la.i ca`ng tin ho*n.
Ma^'t da.o ddu*'c, ma^'t lo`ng da^n la` pha?i thua tra^.n. VNCH di a(n
xin tie^`n cu?a vie^.n tro*. My~ thi` pha?i nho*' la` da^n My~ bo?
tie^`n ra va` da^n la`m chu? nu*o*'c My~, kho^ng pha?i Johnson hay
Nixon. DDe^'n tha'ng 4  na(m 1975 VNCH sa('p su.p ddo^?  cha'nh phu?
My~ cho  da^n VNCH qua My~ di.nh cu* thi` nhie^`u ngu*o*`i da^n My~
pha?n ddo^'i, QH kho^ng chi.i chi tie^`n.  TT Ford pha?i du`ng chie^'n
di.ch Baby lift du*a co^ nhi sang My~ tru*o*'c de^? lke^u go.i tu*`
ta^m cu?a da^n My~, va` o^ng dda'nh tru'ng ta^m ly' dda.o ddu*'c cu?a
da^n My~ de^? xin QH cha^'p thua^.n 300 trie^.u USD di.nh cu* da^n
VN.
La`m TT My~ pha?i bie^'t ta^m ly' da^n My~, kho^ng bie^'t thi` chi?
la`m 4 na(m ma` tho^i. VNCH muo^'n chie^'n tranh cho^'ng CS pha?i
bie^'t ta^m ly' da^n My~, ne^'u kho^ng thi` ne^n xin thu*ng thuye^'t
xin CS ddu*`ng tru*`ng pha.t tra? thu`. DDo*.i khi no' da'nh tan ta`nh
QK I, II va^y saigon mo*'u dda^`u ha`ng, thi` VC va`o muo^'n gie^'t ai
thi` gie^'t. VNCH cho*i lua^.t ru*`ng thi` CS cu~ng cho*i lua^.t
ru*`ng.


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 More options Nov 5, 8:30 am
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From: Um Bala <pb5...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:30:08 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 8:30 am
Subject: Re: Ha^.u qua? cu?a vie^.c gie^'t nhu*ng ke? ra ha`ng hay bi. ba('t du` la`gie^'t khu?ng bo^'
Ho^m nay co' tin toa` a'n Y' xu*? tu` khie^'m die^.n 23  vie^n chu*'c
CIA vi pha.m lua^.t Y' ba('t co'c khu?ng bo^'. Y' kho^ng pha?i la`
nu*o*'c nhu*o*.c tie^?u nhu* VNCH ne^n khi CIA lo^.ng ha`nh thi` toa`
pha.t tu`.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33620676/ns/world_news-europe/
Italian judge convicts 23 in CIA kidnap case
Americans sentenced to jail time in absentia for rendition of Egyptian
cleric

MILAN - An Italian judge found 23 Americans and two Italians guilty
Wednesday in the kidnapping of an Egyptian terror suspect, delivering
the first legal convictions anywhere in the world against people
involved in the CIA's extraordinary renditions program.

Human rights groups hailed the decision and pressed President Barack
Obama to repudiate the Bush administration's practice of abducting
terror suspects and transferring them to third countries where torture
was permitted. The American Civil Liberties Union said the verdicts
were the first convictions stemming from the rendition program.

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