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DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
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rangnguyen  
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From: rangnguyen <rangngu...@gmail.com>
Date: 6 Nov 2009 11:02:56 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 12:02 am
Subject: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
DDo^~ Ma^.u,  gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i
pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p
ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~
tie^'p ho+i

* Ne^`n DDe^. Nha^'t Co^.ng Ho`a su.p ddo^?: Mie^`n Nam tu+. do su.p ddo^?      

Ha`n Giang Tra^`n Le^. Tuye^`n,5.11.09

Nha^n di.p tu+o+?ng nie^.m la^`n thu+' 46, ke^? tu+` nga`y 1.11.1963, nga`y vi.
anh hu`ng vi~ dda.i cu?a da^n to^.c VN: TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m, dda~ vi. quo^'c
vong tha^n.

"Tu+' Ba^'t Tu+? " la` lo+`i cu?a co^? nha^n dda~ da.y,  tu+` thuo+? xa xu+a,
ta^'t ca? nha^n loa.i o+? tre^n ma(.t ddi.a ca^`u na`y ai cu~ng  dde^`u dda~
bie^'t: con ngu+o+`i sinh ra ro^`i ai cu~ng pha?i che^'t,  mo^~i ca'i che^'t
dde^`u kha'c nhau. Nhu+ng, co^? nha^n dda~ kha(?ng ddi.nh co' bo^'n ca'i che^'t
dde^? ro^`i va^~n so^'ng ma~i ma~i vo+'i tho+`i gian, ddo' la` " Tu+' ba^'t tu+?
", va` trong bo^'n ca'i che^'t a^'y go^`m nhu+~ng ba^.c co' co^ng nghie^.p nhu+
sau:

1. Co' su+. nghie^.p lo+'n;

2. Co' dda.o ddu+'c lo+'n.

3. Co' co^ng o+n lo+'n o+? ngu+o+`i ddo+`i.

4. Co' va(n chu+o+ng truye^`n ddu+o+.c la^u da`i.

Va^.y, ho^m nay,  nha^n di.p tu+o+?ng nie^.m la^`n thu+' 46, ke^? tu+` nga`y
1.11.1963, nga`y vi. anh hu`ng vi~ dda.i cu?a da^n to^.c VN: TT Ngo^ DDi`nh
Die^.m, dda~ Vi. Quo^'c Vong Tha^n cu`ng vo+'i nhi. vi. ba`o dde^. la` O^ng Co^'
va^'n Ngo^ DDi`nh Nhu va` O^ng Co^' va^'n Ngo^ DDi`nh Ca^?n. Va` cu+' nhu+ theo
lo+`i cu?a co^? nha^n dda~ da.y,  thi` chi? ca^`n mo^.t chu+~ "Co' " thi` dda~
tro+? tha`nh ba^'t tu+? ro^`i. Nhu+ng  TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m thi` dda~ chie^'m
ddu+o+.c dde^'n ba chu+~ "co' ".  Bo+?i, ta^'t ca? ca'c vi. anh hu`ng o+? tre^n
the^' gio+'i na`y, ho. thu+o+`ng chi? ddu+o+.c tu+` mo^.t dde^'n  hai chu+~ co'.
Nhu+ng rie^ng TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m thi` theo to^i, chi? tru+` chu+~ co' thu+'
bo^'n la` "Co' va(n chu+o+ng truye^`n ddu+o+.c la^u da`i" thi` TT Ngo^ DDi`nh
Die^.m chu+a co' ta'c pha^?m va(n chu+o+ng na`o dde^? la.i cho ha^.u the^',
nhu+ng Ngu+o+`i dda~ chie^'m dde^'n ba chu+~ "co' " trong "tu+' ba^'t tu+? ":

1. Su+. nghie^.p lo+'n: DDo' la` su+. nghie^.p dda~ khai sinh ra The^? Che^'
Co^.ng Ho`a, tu+'c dda~ khai sinh ra Nu+o+'c VNCH, ddo^`ng tho+`i dda~ xa^y
du+.ng ddu+o+.c mo^.t Mie^`n Nam tu+. do va` pho^`n thi.nh, ma` kho^ng pha?i do
ddu+o+.c ca'c cu+o+`ng quo^'c vie^.n tro+. tie^`n ru+`ng ba.c bie^?n.

2. Co' dda.o ddu+'c lo+'n: Ngu+o+`i dda~ ne^u cao dda.o ddu+'c ve^` nhie^`u
phu+o+ng die^.n ddo^'i vo+'i ngu+o+`i da^n. Ca? cuo^.c ddo+`i Ngu+o+`i kho^ng
ma`ng dde^'n cao lu+o+ng my~ vi., kho^ng cha(n a^'m ne^.m e^m, Ngu+o+`i dda~
que^n mi`nh dde^? chi? u+u tu+ cho To^? Quo^'c va` Da^n To^.c.

Va^.y chu'ng ta ha~y nghe nhu+~ng lo+`i cu?a Thie^'u Ta', sau la` DDa.i Ta'
Nguye^~n Due^., ta'c gia? cuo^'n sa'ch: Nho+' la.i nhu+~ng nga`y o+? ca.nh TT
Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m. Nga`y 1.11.1963, O^ng la`  Tham mu+u pho', Lu+~ ddoa`n Lie^n
binh pho`ng ve^. TT phu?, dda~ dde^` nghi. TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m cho xu+? du.ng
Thie^'t gia'p va` Bo^. binh dda'nh tha(?ng va`o Bo^. Tham mu+u, sa`o huye^.t
cu?a phe "ca'ch ma.ng ", ba('t so^'ng toa'n dda?o chi'nh. TT nghe nhu+ng kho^ng
co' y' kie^'n gi`. Khi ddu+o+.c tin DDi'nh dda~ thu+.c su+. theo phe dda?o
chi'nh, TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m than vo+'i DDa.i u'y Ba(`ng, Si~ quan Ca^.n ve^.,
la` "Cha'y nha` mo+'i ra ma(.t chuo^.t ". Va` "Khi lu.c soa't tu+? thi, ngu+o+`i
ta ti`m tha^'y trong tu+? thi cu?a TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m nu+?a bao thuo^'c la'
Bastos xanh va` mo^.t chuo^~i tra`ng ha.t!!! "

" Lu'c ga^`n sa'ng TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m, dda~ ra le^.nh buo^ng su'ng, vi`
kho^ng muo^'n binh si~ ddo^? ma'u vi` O^ng, to^i tha^'y ra~ ro+`i, tha^'t vo.ng.
Nhu+ng va^~n co`n chu't hy vo.ng mong manh, la` O^ng se~ ddu+o+.c ddo^'i xu+?
tu+? te^' bo+?i ca'c tu+o+'ng la~nh la`m dda?o chi'nh, vi` ha^`u he^'t nhu+~ng
ngu+o+`i na`y dde^`u do O^ng ga('n sao cho ho.. Cha(?ng bao la^u, ddu+o+.c tin
O^ng che^'t. Nghi~ ma` thu+o+ng cho O^ng, vi` so+. anh em vi` ba?o ve^. cho O^ng
ma` ddo^? ma'u, so+. anh em giao tranh vo+'i nhau ma^'t tie^`m lu+.c cho^'ng
co^.ng, ma` O^ng bi. la`m nhu.c, pha?i che^'t trong tay nhu+~ng ke? vu~ phu,
trong mo^.t xe thie^'t gia'p ".

Tre^n dda^y, la` nhu+~ng do`ng cu?a DDa.i Ta' Nguye^~n Hu+~u Due^. dda~ vie^'t
trong cuo^'n sa'ch: Nho+' La.i Nhu+~ng Nga`y O+? Ca.nh TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m,
no+i trang so^' 169, thi` cha('c ha(?n mo.i ngu+o+`i dde^`u dda~ tha^'y
ddu+o+.c: cho dde^'n gio+` phu't cuo^'i cu?a cuo^.c ddo+`i, giu+~a lu'c tu+? -
sinh, ma` TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m va^~n kho^ng muo^'n co' mo^.t ngu+o+`i chie^'n
si~ na`o pha?i ddo^? ma'u dde^? ba?o ve^. cho mi`nh. O^i! mo^.t ta^'m lo`ng cao
ca?: nga^'t ngu+o+~ng nhu+ ngo.n Hy Ma~ La.p So+n, va` me^nh mo^ng nhu+ Ngu~
DDa.i Du+o+ng go'p la.i.

To^i cu~ng xin no'i the^m la` ta^'m hi`nh cu?a TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m ma` to^i
dda~ ddu+a le^n tre^n cu?a ba`i vie^'t na`y la` ta^'m hi`nh cu?a bi`a cuo^'n
sa'ch: Nho+' La.i Nhu+~ng Nga`y O+? Ca.nh TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m, cu?a DDa.i ta'
Nguye^~n Hu+~u Due^., theo DDa.i ta', thi` O^ng vie^'t cuo^'n sa'ch na`y, mu.c
ddi'ch la` dde^? ta(.ng cho nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i co`n giu+~ ddu+o+.c lo`ng trung
tha`nh vo+'i TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m, chu+' kho^ng co' mu.c ddi'ch thu+o+ng ma.i.
Tru+o+'c dda^y, lu'c O^ng co`n kho?e O^ng va^~n thu+o+`ng xuye^n vie^'t tre^n
Va(n Nghe^. Tie^`n Phong, O^ng dda~ ky' te^n: Nha^.t Le^. Nguye^~n Hu+~u Due^..
Va` O^ng dda~ tu+` Hoa Ky` gu+?i sang Pha'p quo^'c, vo+'i nhu+~ng do`ng chu+~
ma` chi'nh tay O^ng dda~ vie^'t ta(.ng to^i va`o nga`y 24.11.2003. Phi'a sau
bi`a sa'ch, O^ng co' chu' thi'ch ta^'m hi`nh cu?a TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m la` cu?a
Ba'c si~  Gia'p Phu'c DDa.t cho O^ng ddu+o+.c xu+? du.ng.  Ho^m nay,  to^i ddu+a
ta^'m hi`nh cu?a TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m le^n tre^n ba`i vie^'t na`y cu~ng cu`ng
nhu+ y' Nguye^.n cu?a DDa.i ta' Nguye^~n Hu+~u Due^. va` cu?a Ba'c si~ Gia'p
Phu'c DDa.t,  nghi~a la` dde^? cho ca'c vi.: nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i co`n giu+~
ddu+o+.c nguye^n ve.n mo^.t ta^'m lo`ng trung nghi~a vo+'i TT Ngo^ DDi`nh
Die^.m, dde^? ca'c vi. ddu+o+.c tha^'y la.i hi`nh a?nh cu?a Vi. Anh Hu`ng cu?a
Da^n To^.c. Va^.y, to^i ra^'t mong quy' vi. tre^n ca'c die^~n dda`n cho+' la^'y
ta^'m hi`nh cu?a TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m, cho nhu+~ng mu.c ddi'ch kha'c. DDa(.c
bie^.t, ddo^'i vo+'i nhu+~ng ke? dda~ tu+`ng ha. bu't vie^'t nhu+~ng lo+`i le~
xu'c pha.m dde^'n thanh danh cu?a  TT, thi` tuye^.t ddo^'i kho^ng ddu+o+.c la^'y
ta^'m hi`nh cu?a TT, bo+?i nhu+~ng ba`n tay ddo', dda~ vo^ cu`ng ba^?n thi?u khi
da'm vie^'t le^n nhu+~ng lo+`i le~ xuye^n ta.c, dda^`y a'c y', dde^? bo^i nho.
TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m, va` ca? do`ng ho. Ngo^ DDi`nh.

Va` ba^y gio+` to^i pha?i tro+? la.i vo+'i chu+~ "Co' " thu+' 3 cu?a "Tu+' Ba^'t
Tu+? ":

TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m dda~ co' co^ng o+n lo+'n vo+'i ta^'t ca? mo.i ngu+o+`i
da^n mie^`n Nam: Ke^? tu+` sau nga`y 20.7.1954: DDo' la`: Co^ng Cuo^.c Xa^y
Du+.ng Tu+. Do - Thanh Bi`nh - Pho^`n Thi.nh Ta.i Mie^`n Nam.

Chu'ng ta la` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i da^n cu?a mie^`n Nam, co' le~ na`o la.i que^n
ra(`ng: Va`o nhu+~ng na(m tu+` 1954, dde^'n dda^`u tha^.p nie^n 1960. Du+o+'i
a'nh sa'ng mo+'i cu?a Chi'nh The^? Co^.ng Ho`a. Du+o+'i su+. la~nh dda.o cu?a TT
Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^.m. La` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i VN dda~ tu+`ng so^'ng va`o tho+`i ky`
a^'y. Ta^'t ca? dde^`u dda~ tha^'y ddu+o+.c mo^.t Mie^`n Nam Thanh Bi`nh-Tu+.
Do-no a^'m thu+.c su+..

Nga`y a^'y, ne^'u nhu+~ng ai dda~ tu+`ng so^'ng vo+'i nhu+~ng ca?nh dde^m ve^`,
du+o+'i a'nh tra(ng la`nh, tre^n kha('p ne?o ddu+o+`ng que^, be^n nhu+~ng lu~y
tre la`ng ro^.n ra~ nhu+~ng bu+o+'c cha^n cu?a lo+'p ngu+o+`i trai tre?, vo+'i
hi`nh a?nh hie^`n ho`a, cha^n pha'c. Ho. dda~ dde^'n vo+'i nhau trong nhu+~ng
la^`n sinh hoa.t cu?a thanh nie^n, cu`ng nhau ho`a lo+`i ca vo+'i tie^'ng dda`n
Mandoline, vo+'i nhu+~ng ba`i ha't ca ngo+.i que^ hu+o+ng du+o+'i ca?nh thanh
bi`nh. Bo+?i va^.y, to^i va^~n nho+' du` kho^ng dda^`y ddu? nhu+~ng ba`i ca, co'
ba`i to^i chi? co`n nho+' mo^.t ddo^i ca^u, hoa(.c mo^.t va`i ddie^.p khu'c nhu+
sau:

“DDa^y phu+o+ng Nam, dda^y ruo^.ng Ca` Mau no la`nh. Co' tie^'ng ha't e^m dde^`m
trong suo^'t dde^m thanh. Que^ hu+o+ng anh lu'a nga^.p kha('p bo+` ruo^.ng xanh.
Lu'a ve^` ba'o nhie^`u tin la`nh, tu+` kha('p ddo^`ng que^ cu`ng kinh tha`nh ...

DDa^y phu+o+ng Nam, dda^y ti`nh Ca^`n Tho+ e^m dde^`m. Co' lu'a to^'t quanh
vu`ng nuo^i su+'c da^n the^m. Que^ hu+o+ng em bo'ng du+`a a^'p u? di.u e^m.
Nhu+~ng chie^`u tra(ng ro.i be^n the^`m, vo.ng tie^'ng khoan ho` ve^` e^m dde^`m
...

Ai vo^ Nam, ngo+ nga^?n vi` muo^n ca^u ho`. Nhu+~ng tie^'ng ddo' kho+i lo`ng vui
so^'ng a^'m no. Tra(ng phu+o+ng Nam sa'ng to?a kha('p bo+` Cu+?u Long. Nu+o+'c
cha?y con thuye^`n xuo^i gio`ng, vo.ng tie^'ng khoan ho` la`m a^'m lo`ng... ".

Tre^n dda^y la` nhu+~ng lo+`i que^ ma` to^i muo^'n ghi la.i, dde^? ca'c vi. cao
nie^n dda~ tu+`ng so^'ng, tu+`ng chu+'ng kie^'n nhu+~ng ca?nh thanh bi`nh no+i
co^' ly', cu?a mo^.t tho+`i dda~ ma^'t, va` se~ kho^ng bao gio+` co`n ti`m ga(.p
la.i, du` chi? mo^.t la^`n na`o nu+~a.!!!

Va` ddo', la` "Co' co^ng o+n lo+'n o+? ngu+o+`i ddo+`i "; bo+?i TT Ngo^ DDi`nh
Die^.m, Ngu+o+`i dda~ ta^.n hie^'n ca? cuo^.c ddo+`i tu+` thuo+? co`n trai tre?,
cho dde^'n gio+` phu't cuo^'i cu`ng dda~ Vi. Quo^'c Vong Tha^n.

Nhu+ng ro^`i nhu+~ng ca?nh thanh bi`nh a^'y, dda~ bi. bu+'c tu+? khi ca'i go.i
la` "Ma(.t Tra^.n Gia?i Pho'ng Mie^`n Nam " ra ddo+`i. Ma` a'c ha.i thay,
nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i co^ng khai la~nh dda.o ca'i ma(.t tra^.n na`y la.i la` nhu+~ng
"tri' thu+'c " dda~ ddu+o+.c a(n co+m Quo^'c Gia nhu+ng la.i tho+` ma CS, va`
nhu+~ng "nha` tu ha`nh " cu?a Pha^.t gia'o A^'n Quang. Nhu+~ng "nha` su+ "  ddo'
sau nga`y 30-4-1975, ho. la` "Ho`a Thu+o+.ng- Thu+o+.ng to.a " dda~ ddu+o+.c CS
Ha` No^.i trao ga('n dda^`y nhu+~ng  ta^'m Hua^n chu+o+ng, Huy chu+o+ng, la`
nhu+~ng ba(`ng chu+'ng ve^` nhu+~ng ha`nh vi va` cu~ng la` to^.i a'c dda~ tu+`ng
la`m gia(.c, ma` su+ sa~i A^'n Quang kho^ng co' ca'ch na`o cha.y cho^'i cho
ddu+o+.c.

Chi'nh nhu+~ng ke? "tu ha`nh " ba^'t nha^n, ...

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Lambada  
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 More options Nov 7, 1:55 am
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From: Lambada <lamini...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:55:01 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 1:55 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
Sau nga`y ma^'t mie^`n Nam 30-4-1975, nhie^`u ta'c gia? tu*? Qua^n
Ddo^.i dda~ tu*. vie^'t
sa'ch hoa(.c bie^'t nhie^`u ne^n ghi la.i dde^? gom go'p va`o Li.ch
Su*? cho^'ng Co^.ng dda~
cho tha^'y nhie^`u Tuo*'ng Ta'  VNCH ddu'ng la` pha?n phu'c ca? trong
2 trie^`u 1 va` 2, thi nhau tham
nhu~ng dde^? ro^`i bo? cha.y, trong na`y di~ nhie^n co' ca? o^ng
Thie^.u la` nguo*`i ra le^.nh sai la^`m
ru't qua^n la`m binh li'nh hoa?ng so*., 1 Tuo*'ng hay 1 TT ma` ddie^`u
nghie^n sai thi` ca? 1 ba`n tra^.n
hay ca? 1 quo^'c gia ddi ddoong.

O^ng Die^.m chu*a cha('ng dda~ ddu'ng khi quye^'t ddi.nh kho^ng mang
My~ va`o VN nhu*ng vi` My~ bo? tie^`n ra ne^n muo^'n loa.i bo? ke? O
nghe theo ro^`i sau na`y My~ cu~Ng kho^ng control dduo*.c VN nhu* y'
muo^'n


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From: LTSG <laotamsai...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:57:11 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 4:57 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Nov 6, 12:55 pm, Lambada <lamini...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Kie^'n thu+'c cu?a Lambada co`n ke'm la('m, chu+a na('m vu+~ng va^'n
dde^` ma` ba`n loa.n .
Lambada che^ ca'c tu+o+'ng ta' cu~ng VNCH tho+`i dde^. I va` ca? dde^.
II pha?n phu'c, va^.y Lambada no'i ho. pha?n
ai  ?

Ne^'u ke^'t lua^.n nhu+ va^.y chi'nh cu. Ngo^ Ddi`nh Die^.m cu~ng mang
to^.i pha?n phu'c vi` chi'nh cu. dda~ pha?n
Ba?o DDa.i va` la^.t ddo^? dde^? gia`nh chu+'c to^?ng tho^'ng  ?

Ra'ng ve^` ddo.c la.i nhu+~ng cuo^'n sa'ch hay nhu+ Vie^.t Nam Ma'u Lu
+?a Que^ Hu+o+ng To^i cu?a Ddo^~ Ma^u,
Ho^` So+ Ma^.t dinh Ddo^.c La^.p cu?a Nguye^~n Tie^'n Hu+ng, va` nho+'
lu.c internet dde^? ddo.c the^m nhu+~ng
nha^.n ddi.nh kha'ch quan cua Nguye^~n Ky` Phong nu+~a nhe'  ro^`i tro
+? la.i ba`n lua^.n .


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From: Lambada <lamini...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:18:11 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 7:18 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Nov 6, 3:57 pm, LTSG <laotamsai...@yahoo.com> wrote:

.> Ne^'u ke^'t lua^.n nhu+ va^.y chi'nh cu. Ngo^ Ddi`nh Die^.m cu~ng
mang
> to^.i pha?n phu'c vi` chi'nh cu. dda~ pha?n
> Ba?o DDa.i va` la^.t ddo^? dde^? gia`nh chu+'c to^?ng tho^'ng  ?

.> Ra'ng ve^` ddo.c la.i nhu+~ng cuo^'n sa'ch hay nhu+ Vie^.t Nam Ma'u
Lu

> +?a Que^ Hu+o+ng To^i cu?a Ddo^~ Ma^u,
> Ho^` So+ Ma^.t dinh Ddo^.c La^.p cu?a Nguye^~n Tie^'n Hu+ng, va` nho+'
> lu.c internet dde^? ddo.c the^m nhu+~ng
> nha^.n ddi.nh kha'ch quan cua Nguye^~n Ky` Phong nu+~a nhe'  ro^`i tro
> +? la.i ba`n lua^.n .-

My~ mang o^ng Die^.m ve^` la` dde^? trua^'t phe^' Ba?o Dda.i.
Vie^.t Minh dduo*.c Chi'nh Nghi~a la` o*? cho^~ cho^'ng Pha'p va`
cho^'ng Ba?o Dda.i "BU` NHI`N"

O^ng Die^.m dda~ co^' ga'ng xu*? tri' dde^? cho Ba?o DDa.i kho?i  be~
ma(.t vi` du` sao cu~ng la` ti`nh ddo^`ng
huo*ng va` cu`ng Ta^y ho.c vo*'i nhau

Ky~ Phong chi? la` ke? gom go'p la.i va` ra'p tha`nh 1 quye^?n sa'ch
nhu*ng tu*` ca'c sa'ch cu?a DoMau hay
TranVan Don hay ai kha'c, na`o cha('c ho. no'i ddu'ng. Ngay ca? ba^y
gio*` cu~ng chu*a anh na`o gia'm ddu*'ng tha(?ng
nguo*`i no'i ro~ ra la` ai gie^'t anh em DiemNhu nu*`~a ma` tin va`o
sa'ch, dda.i loa.i la` cu~ng co' nhu*~ng ca'i ddu'ng
ca'i sai

Sau khi Dda?o hCa'nh 1-11-1963, to^i ddo.c ba'o no'i la'i la` ma(.t
co^'ng na`y tre^n dduo*`ng na`y dduo*`ng kia la`
dduo*`ng ha^`m bi' ma^.t da^~n va`o Dinh Gialong ro^`i tuo^n ra so^ng
Saigon v.v.. la`m tu.i na`y cha.y xe dda.p
ti`m xem bi' ma^.t va` la`m ca?nh sa't dduo^?i ba` con me^.t nghi?

Sau Dda?o cha'nh o^ng gia` to^i la` Nha` binh pha?i ddo^?i le^ Dalat,
le^n Dalat thi` ga(.p ba`n tho*` xuo^'ng dduo*`ng
ddo^'t dda`i pha't thanh Dalat la`m tu.i to^i con nha` binh cu~ng
cha.y theo xe cu*'u hoa? ddi chu*~a cha'y Dalat radio me^.t nghi?
co`n bi. dda'm ba`n tho*` PG cho.i dda' nu*~a cho*'


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From: ":))" <bennypo...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:23:21 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 7:23 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:18:11 -0800 (PST), Lambada <lamini...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>My~ mang o^ng Die^.m ve^` la` dde^? trua^'t phe^' Ba?o Dda.i.
>Vie^.t Minh dduo*.c Chi'nh Nghi~a la` o*? cho^~ cho^'ng Pha'p va`
>cho^'ng Ba?o Dda.i "BU` NHI`N"

Sai !  Lu'c na`y Pha'p dda~ ky` ho`a u*o*'c vo*'i Vietnam ro^`i ma`.

Cho^'ng Ku thi` co' chu*' cho^'ng Pha'p gi` nu*~a nhe^?

Anyway, ho^`i nho? o*? Dalat to^i co' va`o Dinh Ba` Nhu ddi tha(m
vie^'ng ca'i bo^`n ta('m cu?a dinh thu* va` ho^` bo*i ro^.ng lo*'n.

E'o ba` no' kho^ng bie^'t ba^y gio*` thi` tha(`ng VC na`o ddang la`m
chu? ma^'y dinh thu*. na`y.

;-))))


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From: ":))" <bennypo...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:28:43 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 7:28 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:18:11 -0800 (PST), Lambada <lamini...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Sau khi Dda?o hCa'nh 1-11-1963, to^i ddo.c ba'o no'i la'i la` ma(.t
>co^'ng na`y tre^n dduo*`ng na`y dduo*`ng kia la`
>dduo*`ng ha^`m bi' ma^.t da^~n va`o Dinh Gialong ro^`i tuo^n ra so^ng
>Saigon v.v.. la`m tu.i na`y cha.y xe dda.p
>ti`m xem bi' ma^.t va` la`m ca?nh sa't dduo^?i ba` con me^.t nghi?

Kho^ng co' ddu*o*`ng ha^`m bi' ma^.t ro^.ng lo*'n va` pho'ng dda.i
nhu*ng cu~ng co' ddu*o*`ng ha^`m dde^? cha.y ra cu*?a sau, thoa't
kho?i dinh ddo^.c la^.p & gia long ddo' ma`.

Ho^`i sa'ng tui co' ghe' ma('t xem TV dda`i Bolsa, ca'c anh tro^'n
qua^n di.ch o*? Vietnam tho*`i xu*a....nay qua Mi~ thi` ma(.c qua^`n
a'o ra(`n ri, BDQ, Du`, TQLC, va^n va^n...tro^ng ru`ng ro*.n qua'.

Ho. ho^.i ho.p va` na^ng bi. ra(`ng cu. Rie^.m ra(`ng cu. la` ngu*o*`i
sa'ng la^.p ra mo^n pha'i VNCH va^n va^n...

Thie^.t la` ro*?m qua' su*'c.

:-)))


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 More options Nov 7, 7:36 am
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From: Lambada <lamini...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:36:33 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 7:36 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Nov 6, 6:23 pm, ":))" <bennypo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

O^ng Die^.m ve^`, Baodai ra di
Sau dda?o cha'nh. ba'o Tra('ng dden hay Ngo^n lua^.n gi` ddo' dde^`u
dda(ng tin
ba` Nhu mo^~i la^`n ta('m thi` pha?i ddo^? va`o bo^`n ta('n dda^`y
su*~a bo` cho da cu?a ba?
tra('ng va` me^`m ma.i. Ro^`i co' ba'o co`n pha(ng tin o^ng Die^.m
ngu? vo*'i ba` Nhu v.v....

Nhie^`u lu'c nghi~ la.i LNP than tho*? la` " Mu Pha^.t" cu~ng
ddu'ng :)
Ca? va`i na(m sau dda?o cha'nh, da^n pro-Diem ta.i ca'c ddi.a phuo*ng
ho. la.i phao tin la`
o^ng Die^m Nhu co`n so^'ng va` kho^ng tin ca'i che^'t tha^.t cu?a anh
em o^ng ta dda~ bi.
ba('n trong xeta(ng va` cho la` gia? ta.o, tin na`y la`m ti`nh ba'o
Ca'ch ma.ng so*. co' nho'm
kha'c nuo^i ma^`m mo^'ng tro*? la.i.

Ne^'u ba`n theo ho.c thu*'c chi'nh tri. thi` phe Ca'ch Ma.ng gie^'t
hai anh em Diem Nhu la` ddu'ng dde^?
nga(n ngu*`a su*.c ta'c ha.i ve^` sau, dda^y la` li' do My~ co^' ti`nh
loa.i bo? VNCH-1 vi` My~ la` investor
ma`, cho*' ne^'u co`n so^'ng no*i na`o ddo' be^n Pha'p hay Italy thi`
ca'c Tuo*'ng Ta' dda?o cha'nh kho' ma` ngu? ye^n
vo*'i dda.o qua^n nguo*`i Nu`ng cu?a o^ng Die^.m

PS: Kho^ng bie^'t chuye^.n ma` hay no'i theo thi` kho' ba`n la('m


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From: Lambada <lamini...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:41:09 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 7:41 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Nov 6, 6:28 pm, ":))" <bennypo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:18:11 -0800 (PST), Lambada <lamini...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:

> >Sau khi Dda?o hCa'nh 1-11-1963, to^i ddo.c ba'o no'i la'i la` ma(.t
> >co^'ng na`y tre^n dduo*`ng na`y dduo*`ng kia la`
> >dduo*`ng ha^`m bi' ma^.t da^~n va`o Dinh Gialong ro^`i tuo^n ra so^ng
> >Saigon v.v.. la`m tu.i na`y cha.y xe dda.p
> >ti`m xem bi' ma^.t va` la`m ca?nh sa't dduo^?i ba` con me^.t nghi?

> Kho^ng co' ddu*o*`ng ha^`m bi' ma^.t ro^.ng lo*'n va` pho'ng dda.i
> nhu*ng cu~ng co' ddu*o*`ng ha^`m dde^? cha.y ra cu*?a sau, thoa't
> kho?i dinh ddo^.c la^.p & gia long ddo' ma`.

.> Ho^`i sa'ng tui co' ghe' ma('t xem TV dda`i Bolsa, ca'c anh tro^'n
.> qua^n di.ch o*? Vietnam tho*`i xu*a....nay qua Mi~ thi` ma(.c
qua^`n
.> a'o ra(`n ri, BDQ, Du`, TQLC, va^n va^n...tro^ng ru`ng ro*.n qua'.

> Ho. ho^.i ho.p va` na^ng bi. ra(`ng cu. Rie^.m ra(`ng cu. la` ngu*o*`i
> sa'ng la^.p ra mo^n pha'i VNCH va^n va^n...

.> Thie^.t la` ro*?m qua' su*'c.

> :-)))

Thi` kha'c gi` nga`y xu*a cha^m xa(ng no^?i lu*?a tu*. thie^u, ba^y
gio*` thi` la.i teo vo`i la.i :))))

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From: ":))" <bennypo...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:46:56 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 7:46 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:36:33 -0800 (PST), Lambada <lamini...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>O^ng Die^.m ve^`, Baodai ra di
>Sau dda?o cha'nh. ba'o Tra('ng dden hay Ngo^n lua^.n gi` ddo' dde^`u
>dda(ng tin
>ba` Nhu mo^~i la^`n ta('m thi` pha?i ddo^? va`o bo^`n ta('n dda^`y
>su*~a bo` cho da cu?a ba?
>tra('ng va` me^`m ma.i. Ro^`i co' ba'o co`n pha(ng tin o^ng Die^.m
>ngu? vo*'i ba` Nhu v.v....

>Nhie^`u lu'c nghi~ la.i LNP than tho*? la` " Mu Pha^.t" cu~ng
>ddu'ng :)

O^ng Die^.m i't co' kinh nghie^.m ve^` dda`n ba`.

Cha('c la^u la^u cu~ng bi. co^ em vo*. po'p de^'....& lo^.ng quye^`n
ha`nh.

Co' ba`i ha't ga^`n nhu* quo^'c ca cu?a VNCH ddu*o*.c ha't nhu* sau:

"Ngo TT, Ngo TT muo^n na(m, ba` Ngo Dinh Nhu po'p chim o^ng Ngo TT."

:-)))

* Co`n ba`i:   "O` e.......dzo^ be dda'nh ddu...ta.c dza(ng nha?y
du`...zorro ba('n su'ng....ba('n ngay con ku ba` Nhu...ba`
Nhu...tha(`n la(`n cu.t dduo^i."

>Ca? va`i na(m sau dda?o cha'nh, da^n pro-Diem ta.i ca'c ddi.a phuo*ng
>ho. la.i phao tin la`
>o^ng Die^m Nhu co`n so^'ng va` kho^ng tin ca'i che^'t tha^.t cu?a anh
>em o^ng ta dda~ bi.
>ba('n trong xeta(ng va` cho la` gia? ta.o, tin na`y la`m ti`nh ba'o
>Ca'ch ma.ng so*. co' nho'm
>kha'c nuo^i ma^`m mo^'ng tro*? la.i.

>Ne^'u ba`n theo ho.c thu*'c chi'nh tri. thi` phe Ca'ch Ma.ng gie^'t
>hai anh em Diem Nhu la` ddu'ng dde^?
>nga(n ngu*`a su*.c ta'c ha.i ve^` sau, dda^y la` li' do My~ co^' ti`nh
>loa.i bo? VNCH-1 vi` My~ la` investor
>ma`, cho*' ne^'u co`n so^'ng no*i na`o ddo' be^n Pha'p hay Italy thi`
>ca'c Tuo*'ng Ta' dda?o cha'nh kho' ma` ngu? ye^n
>vo*'i dda.o qua^n nguo*`i Nu`ng cu?a o^ng Die^.m

Tha^.t su*. chi'nh phu? Mi~ va` CIA ho. cu~ng cha(?ng co' y' ddi.nh
gie^'t o^ng Die^.m & Nhu lu'c ban dda^`u. Nhu*ng su*. vie^.c dda~
xa^?y ra ngoa`i ta^`m tay va` du*. lie^.u cu?a ho. ma` tho^i.

* O^ng Die^.m o^?ng ngo*' nga^?n hoa(.c "ngu"...  :-))

Nhu*ng o^?ng co' ca'i chi' si~ cu?a mo^.t ke? ca^`m quye^`n.  O^?ng
nha^'t ddi.nh ddo`i ve^` Dinh dde^? le^n radio no'i chuye^.n vo*'i
ddo^`ng ba`o co^ng ra'o tui.

*  DDa.o qua^n ngu*o*`i Nu`ng na`o kho^ng bie^'t nhu*ng o^ng
NguyenCaoKy` ho^`i o*? VN cu~ng co' mo^.t anh ngu*o8`i Mie^n ddeo bu`a
ddi theo la` ho^. ve^. trung tha`nh ddo' nhen.

:-))


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From: Lambada <lamini...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:49:14 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 7:49 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
Teo vo`i. NO TEETH babe :))))))))))))))))))))))))

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From: Lambada <lamini...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:52:08 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 7:52 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Nov 6, 6:46 pm, ":))" <bennypo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

.> *  DDa.o qua^n ngu*o*`i Nu`ng na`o kho^ng bie^'t nhu*ng o^ng

> NguyenCaoKy` ho^`i o*? VN cu~ng co' mo^.t anh ngu*o8`i Mie^n ddeo bu`a
> ddi theo la` ho^. ve^. trung tha`nh ddo' nhen.

> :-))

Va^.y la` dzo^'t, dda.o qua^n na`y do 1 Dda.i ta' nguo*`i Nu`ng tro^ng
coi

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From: ":))" <bennypo...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:02:37 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 8:02 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:52:08 -0800 (PST), Lambada <lamini...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>.> *  DDa.o qua^n ngu*o*`i Nu`ng na`o kho^ng bie^'t nhu*ng o^ng
>> NguyenCaoKy` ho^`i o*? VN cu~ng co' mo^.t anh ngu*o8`i Mie^n ddeo bu`a
>> ddi theo la` ho^. ve^. trung tha`nh ddo' nhen.

>> :-))

>Va^.y la` dzo^'t, dda.o qua^n na`y do 1 Dda.i ta' nguo*`i Nu`ng tro^ng
>coi

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------
Mo^` cu?a HoChiMinh cu~ng do mo^.t dda.o qua^n ngu*o*`i Nu`ng to lo*'n
& cho.n lo.c tro^ng coi dda^'y nhe'.

Co' le~ o^ng Diem & Ho du`ng ngu*o*`i Nu`ng vi` de^~ sai ba?o va` chi?
dda^u la` pha^.p ddo' !


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From: LTSG <laotamsai...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:12:28 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 9:12 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
Ly' lua^.n buo^`n cu+o+`i qua' .   Ca'c tu+o+'ng ta nghe My~ la^.t
o^ng Die^.m thi` ba?o ho. la` pha?n phu'c, co`n
o^ng Die^.m nghe My~ la^.t Ba?o DDa.i thi` la.i khho^ng ?   Kie^?u ly'
lua^.n na`y thi` ne^n tro+? ve^ high school ho.c la.i la` vu+`a .

Chi'nh tri. ma` la.i no'i chuye^.n so+. be? ma(.t, te^'u ho+i la`
te^'u !

Tha^.t ra, quye^'t ddi.nh la^.t Ba?o DDa.i la` ddu'ng, vi` lu'c ddo'
Ba?o DDa.i chi? la` mo^.t tay playboy kho^ng ho+n kho^ng ke'm, cha?
la`m ddu+o+.c ti'ch su+. gi` cho dda^'t nu+o+'c .

Co`n chuye^.n la^.t ddo^? o^ng Die^.m vi` chi'nh tri. cu?a o^ng Die^.m
ke'm .  O^ng Die^.m thuo^.c ngu+o+`i cu+'ng dda^`u, thie^'u su+.
me^`m de~o va` uye^?n chuye^?n cu?a mo^.t chi'nh tri. gia, ma` la.i
mang ca'i ta'nh vi. ne^? qua' .  La^'y thi' du. nhu+ o^ng Nhu ba?o
o^ng Die^.m loa.i o^ng DDo^~ Ma^.u ra nhu+ng o^ng Die^.m la.i cu+'`u
muo^'n giui+~ o^ng ta .  Ca'i lo^'i tha(ng chu+'c cu?a o^ng Die^.m
cu~ng la`m lo^.n tu`ng phe`o he^. tho^'ng qua^n giai VNCH .   Le^
Quang Tung chi? la` mo^.t te^n tha^`y do`ng , cha? co' kinh nghie^.m
gi`
nhie^`u trong qua^n ddo^.i, va^.y ma` ddu+o+.c o^ng Die^.m dda(.c
ca'ch le^n la`m DDa.i Ta' .  Em cu?a o^ng Tung la` Le^ Quang Trie^.u
cu~ng ddu+o+.c a(n theo le^n la`m Trung Ta'  .

O^ng Die^.m la` ngu+o+`i cu+.c ky` no'ng na?y , thie^'u kie^ng
nha^~n .   Co' la^`n o^ng co' chuye^'n bay ddi mie^`n Trung dde^?
thanh sa't,
nhu+ng ho^m ddo' xui sao ma'y bay bi. tru.c tra(.c kho^ng bay ddu+o
+.c,  phi co^ng va`  tho+. ba?o tri` pha?i  hi` hu.c su+?a chu+?a,
co`n
o^ng Die^.m thi` ddi to+'i, ddi lui ca^`m ca^y ga^.y quo+ lui quo+ to
+'i, ma(.t ddo? gay ha^`m ha^`m .

No'i chung tri`nh ddo^. cu?a o^ng Die^.m chi? xu+'ng dda'ng la`m Ti?nh
tru+o+?ng hay thi. tru+o+?ng la` cao, chu+' la` to^?ng tho^'ng thi`
chu+a ddu? ta`i na(ng .

On Nov 6, 6:18 pm, Lambada <lamini...@yahoo.com> wrote:


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From: Lambada <lamini...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:01:12 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 10:01 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Nov 6, 8:12 pm, LTSG <laotamsai...@yahoo.com> wrote:
.> Ly' lua^.n buo^`n cu+o+`i qua' .   Ca'c tu+o+'ng ta nghe My~ la^.t
> o^ng Die^.m thi` ba?o ho. la` pha?n phu'c, co`n
> o^ng Die^.m nghe My~ la^.t Ba?o DDa.i thi` la.i khho^ng ?   Kie^?u ly'
> lua^.n na`y thi` ne^n tro+? ve^ high school ho.c la.i la` vu+`a .

.> Chi'nh tri. ma` la.i no'i chuye^.n so+. be? ma(.t, te^'u ho+i la`
> te^'u !

.> Tha^.t ra, quye^'t ddi.nh la^.t Ba?o DDa.i la` ddu'ng, vi` lu'c
ddo'
> Ba?o DDa.i chi? la` mo^.t tay playboy kho^ng ho+n kho^ng ke'm, cha?
> la`m ddu+o+.c ti'ch su+. gi` cho dda^'t nu+o+'c .

.> Co`n chuye^.n la^.t ddo^? o^ng Die^.m vi` chi'nh tri. cu?a o^ng
Die^.m
> ke'm .  O^ng Die^.m thuo^.c ngu+o+`i cu+'ng dda^`u, thie^'u su+.
> me^`m de~o va` uye^?n chuye^?n cu?a mo^.t chi'nh tri. gia, ma` la.i
> mang ca'i ta'nh vi. ne^? qua' .  La^'y thi' du. nhu+ o^ng Nhu ba?o
> o^ng Die^.m loa.i o^ng DDo^~ Ma^.u ra nhu+ng o^ng Die^.m la.i cu+'`u
> muo^'n giui+~ o^ng ta .  Ca'i lo^'i tha(ng chu+'c cu?a o^ng Die^.m
> cu~ng la`m lo^.n tu`ng phe`o he^. tho^'ng qua^n giai VNCH .   Le^
> Quang Tung chi? la` mo^.t te^n tha^`y do`ng , cha? co' kinh nghie^.m
> gi`
> nhie^`u trong qua^n ddo^.i, va^.y ma` ddu+o+.c o^ng Die^.m dda(.c
> ca'ch le^n la`m DDa.i Ta' .  Em cu?a o^ng Tung la` Le^ Quang Trie^.u
> cu~ng ddu+o+.c a(n theo le^n la`m Trung Ta'  .

.> O^ng Die^.m la` ngu+o+`i cu+.c ky` no'ng na?y , thie^'u kie^ng
> nha^~n .   Co' la^`n o^ng co' chuye^'n bay ddi mie^`n Trung dde^?
> thanh sa't,
> nhu+ng ho^m ddo' xui sao ma'y bay bi. tru.c tra(.c kho^ng bay ddu+o
> +.c,  phi co^ng va`  tho+. ba?o tri` pha?i  hi` hu.c su+?a chu+?a,
> co`n
> o^ng Die^.m thi` ddi to+'i, ddi lui ca^`m ca^y ga^.y quo+ lui quo+ to
> +'i, ma(.t ddo? gay ha^`m ha^`m .

.> No'i chung tri`nh ddo^. cu?a o^ng Die^.m chi? xu+'ng dda'ng la`m Ti?
nh

> tru+o+?ng hay thi. tru+o+?ng la` cao, chu+' la` to^?ng tho^'ng thi`
> chu+a ddu? ta`i na(ng .

Va^~n chu*a hie^?u a` ? Kho^? tha^.t
To^'i vie^'t la` Die^, trua^'t phe" Ba?o dda.i cu~ng co' nghi~a la`
Pha?n phu'c
theo ca'i nhi`n cu?a nguo*`i kha'c the^' tho^i. Co`n no'i cha(ng nhu*
ke^?u la?i
nha`i na`y thi` hoa' ra HCM co' chi'nh nghi~a va` Die^.m chi'nh la`
ke? Pha?n
ddo^.ng

Cung ca'ch cu?a o^ng Diem chi? la` 1 tu* ca'ch ca' nha^n cu?a 1 TT
cu~Ng nhu* o^ng Thie^.u
gia? la`m to'c ba.c va` co^' uo*~n ca'i bu.ng cho to ra ve? nhu* quy'
tuo*'ng va` hay ca^`m can nho?
chu*' ne^'u soi mo'i thi` o^ng Thie^.u co' ca'i ra(ng khe^?nh tu.t
va`o ha`m tre^n be^n pha?i va`
vi` kho^ng ddi nha sy~ ta^?y ra(ng cho tra('ng ne^n cuo*`i tha^'y ca'i
ra(ng tu.t va`o dden thui
la`m tro` cuo*`i dde^'n no^~i Benny Hill show co`n mang le^n Thames TV
production ddo' ma`.

Soi mo'i kie^?u na`y thi` re? tie^`n nhu*ng muo^'n soi thi` to^i mo'i
no' ra ma` ddo.c cho bie^'t

O^ng Die^.n co' nhie^`u ddie^`u cu~Ng la`m tha^'t lo`ng da^n mie^`n
Nam, pha?i hie^?u
ra(`ng kho^ng chi? la` o^ng Die^.m ma` ai thay va`o cho^~ o^ng ta
dde^? dduo*.c My~ mang va`o
mie^`n Nam cho^'ng Co^.ng cho Tudo Danchu thi` cu~Ng dde^`u bi. da^n
mie^`n Nam kho^ng thi'ch.

Ly' do ? Ly' do chi'nh la` hie^.p ddi.nh Geneva 1954 mang da^n di cu*
va`o mie^`n Nam ro^`i
bao nhie^u dda^'t ddai cu?a da^n mie^`n Nam sau ddo' bi. tru*ng du.ng
tuy chi'nh phu? co' tra?
tie^`n bo^`i thuo*`ng nhu*ng ca'c chu? dda^'t ruo^.ng lu'a hay ddo^`ng
ba(`ng cao nguye^n cu?a
ho. dde^`u kho^ng muo^'n ma^'t dda^'t va`o try da^n Di cu*, dda^'y la`
1 ddie^`u i't ai nghi~
dde^'n su*. tranh cha^'p na`y va^~N co`n to^`n ta.i trong lo`ng nguoi
da^nn mie^`n Nam dai da(?ng
cho dde^'n ta^.n na(m 1975 thi` mo*'i ta('ng ma('t ra la` Vietcong no'
va`o no' cu*a he^'t va` kho^ng
pha^n bie^.t Nam Trung Ba('c, tao la` Da?ng, tao co' quye^`n.

O^ng Die^.m co' ta`i hay kho^ng thi` ai ai cu~ng bie^'t la` o^ng ta
kho^ng pha?i la` 1 nha` chi'nh tri.
ma` o^ng ta la` tu*` nha` tu ra, tuy nhie^n o^ng Nhu thi` kha'c, che^
tra'ch cu*' tu*. nhie^n, va` to^i cha(?ng
buo^`n hay be^nh gi` ca? vi` hie^?n nhie^n dda~ ro~. Cu~ng nhu* o^ng
Thie^^.u, tra^.n chie^'n Ban Me Thuo^.t
la` tra^.n cuo^'i cu`ng mang danh o^n le^n hay ha. o^ng Thie^.u
xuo^'ng thi` ai cu~ng ro~. Ddo' la` o^ng Thie^.u dda~
ho.c binh luo*.c mu*u cao ho*n 1 nha` tu nhu* o^ng Die^.m dda^'y.

No'i the^m ca'c tay ta` loo.c nhu* Big Minh thi` tay na`y co' ba(`ng
ca^'p gi` dda^u ?
Thie^?n nghi~ ca'c tay trong trie^`u Diem Nhu thi` cu~ng la` vo* ve't
va`o 1 ca'ch vo^.i va~ dde^? setup 1 chi'nh phu?
ddie^`u ha`nh cho mie^`n Nam tho*1i ba^'y gio*`, na`o dduo*.c ba^`u
ba'n gi`, ne^n ddie^`u na`y ha(?n nhie^n
la` co' thie^'u so't va` co' la^`m lo^~i chu*' ddo`i va.ch ddi't o^ng
Diem Nhu hay o^ su* na`o ddo' xem coi o^ng a^'y
co' chu`i ddi't hay kho^ng thi` ba`n ba.c theo kie^?u eat shit, cheap
va` con ni't

Ne^n nho*' du` la` Diem hay Thieu hay HCM hay Leduan, ta^'t ca? pha?i
nghe theo quan tha`y.
Duy va^.y ai ai cu~ng pha?i bie^'t va` kho^ng cho^'i ca~i dduo*.c la`
chi? co' 1 o^ng Diem binh theo dduo*`ng kho^ng chi.u
a'p lu*.c cu?a My~ dde^? o^ng ta, dde^? tu*. nguo*`i VN quye^'t ddi.nh
la^'y. Dda^y la` ddie^`u o^ng Diem nghi~ ddu'ng nhu*ng theo
to^i cu~ng la` sai vi` My~ la` quan tha`y cu?a mie^`n Nam va` Lien so^
Tung quoc la` quan tha`y cu?a HCM

Coa`n ca'c chuye^.n be^n trong, o^ng Die^.m ddoa`i loa.i o^ng na`y
o^ng kia thi` vo*'i 1 chi'nh phu? na`o cu~ng dde^`u co'
su*. thanh tru*`ng na`y. TUY NHIE^N ai ai cu~ng pha?i ddo^`ng y' la`
sau khi o^ng Diem Nhu vi~Nh vie^~n ra ddi thi`
chi'nh phu? Ca'ch Ma.nh mie^`n Nam la.i ba('t dda^`u thanh tru*`ng
la^~n nhau na't nhu* tuo*ng

Ddo^`ng y' chu*' Dda.i ca L3SG :)))))

Dda.i ca quye^n ra(`ng khi nha('c to*'i o^ng Die^.m thi` la` nha('c
to*'i Ca^`n Lao Nha^n Vi. ma` Dda.i ca ghe't no' nhu*ng
Dda.i ca cu~ng ddu*`ng quye^n khi nha('c to*'i O^ Thie^`u thi`
"Ddu*`ng nghe nhu*~ng gi` CS no'i va` ha~Y nhi`n nhu*~ng gi`
CD la`m" ca^u na`y ddu'ng phoo'c nhu*ng cu~ng no' quay nguo*.c la.i ca
('n va`o ddi't O^ Thie^.u la`m O^ ta bo? cha.y thi` ta.i
sao nguo*`i ta mo*'i dzie^~u la` "Ddu*~ng nghe nhu*~ng gi` Thie^.u
no'i ma` ha~Y nhi`n nhu*~ng gi` Thie^.u la`m" cu~ng
ddu'ng phoo'c boong boong.

Chu*a he^'t O^ Thie^.u co' 1 quy lua^.t cho^'ng co^.ng rie^ng la` "Quy
lua^.t 4 kho^ng", kho^ng no'i chuye^.n vo*'i CS, kho^ng ho*.p ta'c
vo*'i
CS, kho^ng ....kho^ng gi` ddo' que^n ro*`i.  Khoa?ng na(m 1998 chi
ddo' thi` bo^~ng du*ng o^ng ta xua^'t hie^.n la.i va` tuye^n
bo^' la` se~ no'i chuye^.n vo*'i CS vo*'i ddie^`u kie^.n XYZ la`m
Hanoi ba^.t cuo*`i tuo*?ng o^ng ta la` tre? ni't vi` o^ Thie^.u lu'c
ba^'y gio*` chi? la` con so^' zero. Nga`y nay ca'c ta`i lie^.u ve^` o^
Thie^.u dda~ tu*. y' loa.i bo? 4-KHO^NG cu?a o^ ta ra dde^? du`ng
tho*`i gian se~ la`m lu mo*` ca'i nga^y ngo^ 4-KHO^NG na`y vi` trong
chi'nh tri., NEGOTIATION la` 1 ddie^`u luo^n luo^n ca^`n du`ng dde^'n
dde^? nhandan bo*'t ddo^? ma'u va` du`ng tho*`i gian ca^`u hoa` la^~N
nhau cho du` CS lo*.i du.ng tho*`i gian thi` ta cu~ng pha?i lo*.i
du.ng no'. O^
Thie^.u kho^ng thi'ch My~ nhu*ng la.i kho^ng gia'm mang binh Ba('c
Tie^'n nhu* Hanoi du`ng Nam Tie^'n va^.y tho^i

I think you go and eat shit tonite 4 better brainstorm  :)


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 More options Nov 7, 10:40 am
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From: ":))" <bennypo...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:40:31 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 10:40 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:01:12 -0800 (PST), Lambada <lamini...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Ne^n nho*' du` la` Diem hay Thieu hay HCM hay Leduan, ta^'t ca? pha?i
>nghe theo quan tha`y.
>Duy va^.y ai ai cu~ng pha?i bie^'t va` kho^ng cho^'i ca~i dduo*.c la`
>chi? co' 1 o^ng Diem binh theo dduo*`ng kho^ng chi.u
>a'p lu*.c cu?a My~ dde^? o^ng ta, dde^? tu*. nguo*`i VN quye^'t ddi.nh
>la^'y. Dda^y la` ddie^`u o^ng Diem nghi~ ddu'ng nhu*ng theo
>to^i cu~ng la` sai vi` My~ la` quan tha`y cu?a mie^`n Nam va` Lien so^
>Tung quoc la` quan tha`y cu?a HCM

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------
O^ng Die^.m  va` Nhu vu*`a ngo*' nga^?n vu*`a tu*o*?ng bo*?.

Tu*o*?ng ra(`ng Mi~ ra^'t ca^`n to*'i ca'i ta`i tri. nu*o*'c co' mo^.t
kho^ng hai cu?a o^?ng va` cu?a ca'c ba`o dde^. nha` ho. Ngo^ DDi`nh,
cu`ng vo*'i ca'i o^ pa.c lo*, dda`i pha't thanh, bo^. tru*o*?ng bo^.
tho^ng tin to^'i cao cu?a che^' ddo^., Madame Nhu, v.v...

Vi` va^.y o^ng la`m ma^'t lo`ng dda.i su*' Mi~. Va` sau cu`ng thi` bi.
con cha'u cu?a Ca^`n Lao Nha^n Vi. ma^`n thi.t cha? gio`, tie^'t
canh.... thay vi` BBQ.

* O^ng Thie^.u kho^n ngoan ho*n va` nhi`n tha^'y ca?nh o^ng Die^.m va`
o^ng Nhu ru`ng ro*.n qua'.

Va` cho du` Mi~, va`o na(m 1975, co' du. khi. o^?ng ma^'y ca'i mo?
da^`u lu*?a o*? ga^`n Phu' Quo^'c, va^n va^n...TT Thie^.u va^~n tu*`
chu*'c la` tu*` chu*'c nhu* thuo*`ng chu*' kho^ng on-ddo* gi` ca?.

Kho^ng ham quye^`n ha`nh chu*' Nguyen Cao Ky`, tu*o*'ng ca?i lu*o*ng
Anh Hai Tru*o*`ng So*n (cho^`ng cu?a Thanh Tuye^`n), va^n va^n...co^'
ba'm va`o hu* danh...nhu*ng ro^`i cu~ng pha?i dzo.t...

Goodnight & TGIF !  :)


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From: "La~o No^ng Phu" <laonong...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:11:57 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 6:11 pm
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Nov 6, 11:12 pm, LTSG <laotamsai...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Tha(`ng ngu LTSG no'i na(ng nhu+ ve.t, cha(?ng co' y' gi` mo+'i, toa`n
la` thu+' cho^.p tu+` ma^'y tha(`ng ngu dda? ki'ch o^ng Die^.m ro^`i
no'i na(ng va(ng ma.ng ngu dda^`n. LNP chi? ho?i mo^.t ca^u sau:
1. DDa^'t nu+o+'c Vie^.t Nam tu+` 1945 dde^'n gio+`, co' vi. la~nh tu.
na`o ta`i na(ng va` ddu+'c ddo^. ho+n TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^m kho^ng ?
Ke^? ca? hai mie^`n va` tho+`i ddie^?m cho dde^'n hie^.n nay.

Bie^'t thi` thu+a tho^'t kho^ng bie^'t thi` du+a. co^.t ma` nghe, ddu
+`ng no'i nhu+~ng lo+`i ngu dda^`n nho'c LTSG a.


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From: ":))" <bennypo...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:20:50 -0800
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 12:20 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:11:57 -0800 (PST), "La~o No^ng Phu"

<laonong...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Tha(`ng ngu LTSG no'i na(ng nhu+ ve.t, cha(?ng co' y' gi` mo+'i, toa`n
>la` thu+' cho^.p tu+` ma^'y tha(`ng ngu dda? ki'ch o^ng Die^.m ro^`i
>no'i na(ng va(ng ma.ng ngu dda^`n. LNP chi? ho?i mo^.t ca^u sau:
>1. DDa^'t nu+o+'c Vie^.t Nam tu+` 1945 dde^'n gio+`, co' vi. la~nh tu.
>na`o ta`i na(ng va` ddu+'c ddo^. ho+n TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^m kho^ng ?
>Ke^? ca? hai mie^`n va` tho+`i ddie^?m cho dde^'n hie^.n nay.

>Bie^'t thi` thu+a tho^'t kho^ng bie^'t thi` du+a. co^.t ma` nghe, ddu
>+`ng no'i nhu+~ng lo+`i ngu dda^`n nho'c LTSG a.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------
No^.i chi? ca^`n so sa'nh giu*~a hai tho*`i dde^. I va` dde^. II
co^.ng ho`a thi` ta co' the^? tha^'y o^ng Thie^.u tui de^~ ghe't va^.y
ddo'.

Nhu*ng tha`nh tha^.t ma` no'i thi` o^ng Thie^.u kho^n lanh va` ta`i
gio?i ba(`ng 2-3 ca'c o^ng Nhu, o^ng Die^.m, o^ng Ca^?n, o^ng Thu.c
co^.ng la.i.

Nhu*~ng nha^n ta`i nhu* o^ng Die^.m thi` mie^`n Nam, Ca` Mau Be^'n
ha~i dde^'m ho^ng he^'t.

Nghe no'i TCS cu~ng la` mo^.t la~ng dda.o ta`i ba`. Co*~ dda^u 1,000
na9m mo*'i kie^'m ddu*o*.c 1 ngu*o*`i nhu* TCS. (Nghe no'i va^.y ddo'a
a')

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From: LTSG <laotamsai...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:22:45 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 7:22 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
Tha(`ng nho'c LNP la?i nha?y nhu+ con co'c, cha('c hi't ba~ mi'a dda'm
ca^`n lao nha^n vi. ne^n
gio+` nga`y na`o cu~ng le^n SCV kho'c tha?m .   O^ng Die^.m ma` ta`i
gio?i , anh minh thi` dda^u co'
bi. tu.i no' ba(`m tha^y nhu+ va^.y chu+'  ?   Anh minh ca'i cu.c ki't
gi` khi dde^? cho anh ruo^.t cu?a o^?ng la`
Ngo^ DDi`nh Thu.c du`ng quye^`n lu+.c cu?a mi`nh buo^n quan ba'n chu
+'c, buo^n ba'n ba^'t ddo^.ng sa?n,
ro^`i dde^? em ruo^.t cu?a mi`nh la` ddu+'a tha^'t ho.c ma` la`m co^'
va^'n mie^`n Trung, qua^.y na't ca?
chi'nh tru+o+`ng, u+'c hie^'p da^n chu'ng .

Ngay kha? ddo+`i cha o^ng Die^.m cu?a bi. mang tie^'ng la` ba'n nu+o
+'c vi` Ngo^ DDi`nh Kha? ca^'u ke^'t vo+'i Nguye^~n Tha^n
la`m tay sai va` nghe theo le^.nh cu?a thu+.c da^n Pha'p dda`n a'p
phong tro`ng ca^`n vu+o+ng cu?a vua Ha`m Nghi va` sau
khi dda'nh tha('ng Phan Ddi`nh Phu`ng ro^`i la.i ddem xa'c cu?a cu.
Phan DDi`nh Phu`ng bo?  va`o su'ng Canon ba('n na't ma(.c
da^`u cu. Phan DDi`nh Phu`ng dda~ che^'t ca'ch ddo' dda~ 12 nga`y
ro^`i ..

"Ngô Đ́nh Khả là Phụ chánh đại thần triều Thành Thái (1879 – 1954),
nguyên quán huyện Xuân Dục, Phủ Quảng Ninh, tỉnh Quảng B́nh sau dời về
làng Đại Phong, huyện Lệ Thủy, tỉnh Quảng B́nh, từ năm 1890 làm việc
và sống ở Huế.

Xuất thân trong một gia đ́nh theo đạo Thiên Chúa lâu đời. Thuở nhỏ ông
được các giáo sĩ Thiên chúa giáo cho đi học chữ Pháp và La Tinh tại
một Trường Ḍng truyền giáo ở Pénang (Mă Lai) cùng khóa với Nguyễn Hữu
Bài (1863-1935).

Khi làm Phó tướng cho viên quan khét tiếng Nguyễn Thân ra Bắc đánh dẹp
nghĩa quân Cần Vương ở Vụ Quang (căn cứ kháng chiến của Phan Đ́nh
Phùng), Ngô Đ́nh Khả đă gây ra nhiều tội ác. Lúc đă dồn người anh hùng
Phan Đ́nh Phùng vào thế cùng, Ngô Đ́nh Khả đang tâm theo lệnh Nguyễn
Thân đào mả lấy xác cụ Phan trộn thuốc súng, bỏ vào súng thần công bắn
xuống ḍng sông Lam…

Trong Hiệp ước Giáp Thân (6/1884), ở điều 5, thực dân Pháp ép nhà
Nguyễn phải nhượng Trấn B́nh Đài cho lính Pháp đóng quân. Cái tên Đồn
Mang Cá có từ đó. Khi kinh đô Huế thất thủ năm 1885, lính Pháp đă đánh
chiếm khu vực Linh Hựu Quán và một số công tŕnh khác của triều đ́nh.

Tới năm 1886, viên toàn quyền Paul Bert được “quân sư” Trương Vĩnh Kư
tư vấn, lại ép vua Đồng Khánh nhượng tiếp khu đất nằm giữa trấn B́nh
Đài và Linh Hựu Quán để chúng xây dựng thêm doanh trại, đồn bốt, nhà
thương, kho hậu cần... Linh Hựu Quán bị triệt giải từ đó. Và cũng từ
đó người dân ở Huế gọi khu nhượng địa mới này là Mang Cá Lớn, khu Trấn
B́nh Đài cũ là Mang Cá Nhỏ.  "

Chi? co' tha(`ng nha?i LNP ngu do^'t, dda^`n ddo^.n la`m tay sai, ho.c
ha`nh cha(?ng ra gi`, a(n no'i le^'u la'o ma` khoa'c la'c !

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From: "La~o No^ng Phu" <laonong...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:13:24 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 8:13 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Nov 7, 9:22 pm, LTSG <laotamsai...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Nho'c LTSG do^'t qua', LNP ho?i mo^.t dda`ng tra? lo+`i mo^.t ne?o.
DDo.c sa'ch ma` kho^ng bie^'t du`ng ca'i dda^`u suy lua^.n thi? chi?
la` ddo.c nhu+ ve.t. DDa^`u kho^ng bie^'t suy lua^.n ho+n thie^.t thi`
chi? la` ca'i dda^`u bo`. Hay no'i nhu+ o^ng Nhu no'i DM thi` dda^`u
LTSG nho? nhu+ con chim sa^u. Bie^'t ta.i sao ngu kho^ng ? Vi` ly'
lua^.n theo kie^?u da^n Bu' DDi't thi` ddo+`i na`o kha' ddu+o+.c
Ca^u ho?i:
DDa^'t nu+o+'c Vie^.t Nam tu+` 1945 dde^'n gio+`, co' vi. la~nh tu.
na`o ta`i na(ng va` ddu+'c ddo^. ho+n TT Ngo^ DDi`nh Die^m kho^ng ?
Ke^? ca? hai mie^`n va` tho+`i ddie^?m cho dde^'n hie^.n nay.
Ai ha? tha(`ng ngu

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From: LTSG <laotamsai...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:24:01 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 8:24 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
Tha(`ng nha?i ranh LNP la` tha(`ng dda^`u dda^'t se't, ma('t ma^`y
ddui ro^`i sao ddo.c
ma` kho^ng pha^n bie^.t ddu+o+.c ha? ma^`y .  Tao reply la.i cho
BenthePooh ma('c mo+'
gi` nho'c con LNP  cha^'t va^'n ha? .    Tha(`ng LNP la` tha(`ng ngu
va` khu`ng nha^'t SCV !

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From: "La~o No^ng Phu" <laonong...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:27:15 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 8:27 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Nov 7, 10:24 pm, LTSG <laotamsai...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Bo+?i vi` tha(`ng dda^`n LTSG no'i ngu qua' do+ SCV ne^n LNP pha?i
tri. pha?i dda^.p. The^' tho^i, nghe chu+a tha(`ng bu' ddi't tu+?ng tu
+?ng ddie^n ddie^n LTSG.

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From: ":))" <bennypo...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:27:33 -0800
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 8:27 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:24:01 -0800 (PST), LTSG <laotamsai...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Tha(`ng nha?i ranh LNP la` tha(`ng dda^`u dda^'t se't, ma('t ma^`y
>ddui ro^`i sao ddo.c
>ma` kho^ng pha^n bie^.t ddu+o+.c ha? ma^`y .  Tao reply la.i cho
>BenthePooh ma('c mo+'
>gi` nho'c con LNP  cha^'t va^'n ha? .    Tha(`ng LNP la` tha(`ng ngu
>va` khu`ng nha^'t SCV !

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------
Tha(`ng na`o ho?i ca^u ho?i ngu thi` dda.i ca cu*' tra? lo*`i dda.i
cho ha('n mo^.t ca^u tra? lo*`i ngu ddi va^.y.

Ho?i ca^u ho?i kho^n thi` se~ ddu*o*.c tra? lo*`i mo^.t ca^u kho^n.  

:-))

Go~ thi` se~ mo*?, xin thi` se~ cho, ti`m thi` se~ tha^'y.


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From: "La~o No^ng Phu" <laonong...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:29:29 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 8:29 am
Subject: Re: DDo^~ Ma^.u, gian manh va` pha?n phu'c, cuo^'i ddo+`i, ve^` VN, le^n dda`i pha't thanh cu?a VC ca tu.ng co^ng ddu+'c cu?a Ho^`...ke^u go.i...ho`a ho+.p ho`a gia?i - PG A^'n Quang va` ca'c tu+o+'ng pha?n tha ho^` chu.p mu~ va` My~ tie^'p ho+i
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La.i the^m tha(`ng tu+?ng bu' ddi't Pooh' ddi't nha?y vo^ nu+~a

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