OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins shooting he yells, "Allahuh Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar things in the USA.
Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related to religion"?
Frogwatch wrote: > OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells > people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about how > evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He gives a > talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be decapitated > and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get deployed to Iraq > due to religion. Before he begins shooting he yells, "Allahuh > Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar > things in the USA.
> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related > to religion"?
ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so desperate for shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR in charge of counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
Do you not think anything out, Froggie?
Or is the US military establishment that dumb and desperate and stupid to keep someone like that on their rolls.
> Frogwatch wrote: > > OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells > > people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about how > > evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He gives a > > talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be decapitated > > and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get deployed to Iraq > > due to religion. Before he begins shooting he yells, "Allahuh > > Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar > > things in the USA.
> > Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related > > to religion"?
> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI not have > the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so desperate for > shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR in charge of > counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
> Do you not think anything out, Froggie?
> Or is the US military establishment that dumb and desperate and stupid to > keep someone like that on their rolls.
> - nilita
Cuz he did nothing illegal. THINK LaN, neither the Army nor the FBI can say anything about his disagreement with the wars. Supposedly nothing bad about being a muslim. Calling himself a Palestinian is not bad. Telling people what he thinks the Koran says about unbelievers is protected speech. So, find one thing he could have been "weeded out" for in these PC times? Remember, there are muslim members of the US army and they need counselors too so perhaps the Army thought he was of value.
Frogwatch wrote: > On Nov 7, 12:20 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Frogwatch wrote: >>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells >>> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about how >>> evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He gives a >>> talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be >>> decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get >>> deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins shooting he >>> yells, "Allahuh >>> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar >>> things in the USA.
>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related >>> to religion"?
>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI >> not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so >> desperate for shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR >> in charge of counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
>> Do you not think anything out, Froggie?
>> Or is the US military establishment that dumb and desperate and >> stupid to keep someone like that on their rolls.
>> - nilita
> Cuz he did nothing illegal. THINK LaN, neither the Army nor the FBI > can say anything about his disagreement with the wars. Supposedly > nothing bad about being a muslim. Calling himself a Palestinian is > not bad. Telling people what he thinks the Koran says about > unbelievers is protected speech. So, find one thing he could have > been "weeded out" for in these PC times? > Remember, there are muslim members of the US army and they need > counselors too so perhaps the Army thought he was of value.
In your words: "He constantly rants about how
>>> evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He gives a >>> talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be >>> decapitated and burnt. "
You know? To most civilized (Western) countries, that would be a no-brainer. At the very least the guy is a nut bran; at the most he's dangerous. You pull him out of his position of authority. PERIOD. If the Army knew all this was happening behind the scenes, then they have a lot to answer for, putting young men and women at risk at the hands of this (at the very least, unprofressional) Major.
> On Nov 7, 12:20 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Frogwatch wrote: > > > OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells > > > people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about how > > > evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He gives a > > > talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be decapitated > > > and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get deployed to Iraq > > > due to religion. Before he begins shooting he yells, "Allahuh > > > Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar > > > things in the USA.
> > > Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related > > > to religion"?
> > ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI not have > > the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so desperate for > > shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR in charge of > > counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
> > Do you not think anything out, Froggie?
> > Or is the US military establishment that dumb and desperate and stupid to > > keep someone like that on their rolls.
> > - nilita
> Cuz he did nothing illegal. THINK LaN, neither the Army nor the FBI > can say anything about his disagreement with the wars. Supposedly > nothing bad about being a muslim. Calling himself a Palestinian is > not bad. Telling people what he thinks the Koran says about > unbelievers is protected speech. So, find one thing he could have > been "weeded out" for in these PC times? > Remember, there are muslim members of the US army and they need > counselors too so perhaps the Army thought he was of value.
Think about it even more: "Muslim shrink in the US Army" otherwise known as "Seriously Good Asset" for getting into the heads of people in Iraq. Even if he did not want to go he could be very useful. Many people who were against the war in Iraq went there and sucked it up and have really tried to be helpful. Even considering his poor ratings, I'd have hesitated to get rid of him simply because of his potential usefulness.
Frogwatch wrote: > On Nov 7, 12:26 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote: >> On Nov 7, 12:20 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Frogwatch wrote: >>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells >>>> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about >>>> how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He >>>> gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be >>>> decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get >>>> deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins shooting he >>>> yells, "Allahuh >>>> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar >>>> things in the USA.
>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related >>>> to religion"?
>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI >>> not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so >>> desperate for shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR >>> in charge of counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
>>> Do you not think anything out, Froggie?
>>> Or is the US military establishment that dumb and desperate and >>> stupid to keep someone like that on their rolls.
>>> - nilita
>> Cuz he did nothing illegal. THINK LaN, neither the Army nor the FBI >> can say anything about his disagreement with the wars. Supposedly >> nothing bad about being a muslim. Calling himself a Palestinian is >> not bad. Telling people what he thinks the Koran says about >> unbelievers is protected speech. So, find one thing he could have >> been "weeded out" for in these PC times? >> Remember, there are muslim members of the US army and they need >> counselors too so perhaps the Army thought he was of value.
> Think about it even more: > "Muslim shrink in the US Army" otherwise known as "Seriously Good > Asset" for getting into the heads of people in Iraq. Even if he did > not want to go he could be very useful. Many people who were against > the war in Iraq went there and sucked it up and have really tried to > be helpful. Even considering his poor ratings, I'd have hesitated to > get rid of him simply because of his potential usefulness.
If he was, as you say, making unprofessional and violent posts on the internet, the Army should have questioned his "usefulness". The Army has a lot to answer for if it comes out in the wash that they were covering up this man's behaviour and slow meltdown. In Canada, someone like that would have been pulled from his position for a long debriefing/investigation. Are you yanks that thick and desperate for army shrinks????!!!! I then would charge you with negligence to perform your duty to your young men and women in uniform to provide the best medical/mental health services that they deserve. Shame, shame, shame ....
> On Nov 7, 12:26 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 7, 12:20 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Frogwatch wrote: > > > > OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells > > > > people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about how > > > > evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He gives a > > > > talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be decapitated > > > > and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get deployed to Iraq > > > > due to religion. Before he begins shooting he yells, "Allahuh > > > > Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar > > > > things in the USA.
> > > > Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related > > > > to religion"?
> > > ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI not have > > > the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so desperate for > > > shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR in charge of > > > counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
> > > Do you not think anything out, Froggie?
> > > Or is the US military establishment that dumb and desperate and stupid to > > > keep someone like that on their rolls.
> > > - nilita
> > Cuz he did nothing illegal. THINK LaN, neither the Army nor the FBI > > can say anything about his disagreement with the wars. Supposedly > > nothing bad about being a muslim. Calling himself a Palestinian is > > not bad. Telling people what he thinks the Koran says about > > unbelievers is protected speech. So, find one thing he could have > > been "weeded out" for in these PC times? > > Remember, there are muslim members of the US army and they need > > counselors too so perhaps the Army thought he was of value.
> Think about it even more: > "Muslim shrink in the US Army" otherwise known as "Seriously Good > Asset" for getting into the heads of people in Iraq. Even if he did > not want to go he could be very useful. Many people who were against > the war in Iraq went there and sucked it up and have really tried to > be helpful. Even considering his poor ratings, I'd have hesitated to > get rid of him simply because of his potential usefulness.
LaN does a great job of blaming the victim while holding blameless the PC mindset that makes removing him very difficult. If he had been removed, the Army would have been blamed for cultural insensitivity toward muslims. LaN, the real blame lies with people like yourself who are unable to think clearly about what is relatively "more evil" so end up allowing evil to flourish in the name of cultural sensitivity. I repeat, people like yourself are responsible for the Army not being able to remove him (yes I know you are not in the USA but the point remains true).
Frogwatch wrote: > On Nov 7, 12:34 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote: >> On Nov 7, 12:26 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 7, 12:20 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Frogwatch wrote: >>>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells >>>>> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about >>>>> how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He >>>>> gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should >>>>> be decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get >>>>> deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins shooting he >>>>> yells, "Allahuh >>>>> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar >>>>> things in the USA.
>>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be >>>>> related to religion"?
>>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI >>>> not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so >>>> desperate for shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR >>>> in charge of counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
>>>> Do you not think anything out, Froggie?
>>>> Or is the US military establishment that dumb and desperate and >>>> stupid to keep someone like that on their rolls.
>>>> - nilita
>>> Cuz he did nothing illegal. THINK LaN, neither the Army nor the FBI >>> can say anything about his disagreement with the wars. Supposedly >>> nothing bad about being a muslim. Calling himself a Palestinian is >>> not bad. Telling people what he thinks the Koran says about >>> unbelievers is protected speech. So, find one thing he could have >>> been "weeded out" for in these PC times? >>> Remember, there are muslim members of the US army and they need >>> counselors too so perhaps the Army thought he was of value.
>> Think about it even more: >> "Muslim shrink in the US Army" otherwise known as "Seriously Good >> Asset" for getting into the heads of people in Iraq. Even if he did >> not want to go he could be very useful. Many people who were against >> the war in Iraq went there and sucked it up and have really tried to >> be helpful. Even considering his poor ratings, I'd have hesitated to >> get rid of him simply because of his potential usefulness.
> LaN does a great job of blaming the victim while holding blameless the > PC mindset that makes removing him very difficult. If he had been > removed, the Army would have been blamed for cultural insensitivity > toward muslims. LaN, the real blame lies with people like yourself > who are unable to think clearly about what is relatively "more evil" > so end up allowing evil to flourish in the name of cultural > sensitivity. I repeat, people like yourself are responsible for the > Army not being able to remove him (yes I know you are not in the USA > but the point remains true).
There is a universal tenet in the medical/mental health world. If a person is engaging in unprofessional conduct, and at the very least an investigation is not performed, then the powers-that-be are negligent. Do you think these young men and women would have willingly accepted the help of an anti-American (Muslim) shrink who advocated beheading of infidels? DO YOU???!!!! Is that how little you think of those who serve in uniform? I, for one, believe that those in uniform deserve treatment and medical insurance that would be afforded by/to the most wealthy of your nation instead of having to attend decrepit VA institutions and rat infested hospitals. I think they deserve the best shrinks/hospitals (i.e. Mayo), that your country can give them. I WOULD HAVE REMOVED THAT NUT BRAN IN A NEW YORK MINUTE. You wouldn't. I believe Armed Forces personnel on active duty and retired deserve the best of treatment facilities and professionals. You obviously don't.
> Frogwatch wrote: >> On Nov 7, 12:26 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote: >>> On Nov 7, 12:20 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Frogwatch wrote: >>>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells >>>>> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about >>>>> how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He >>>>> gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be >>>>> decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get >>>>> deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins shooting he >>>>> yells, "Allahuh >>>>> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar >>>>> things in the USA.
>>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related >>>>> to religion"?
>>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI >>>> not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so >>>> desperate for shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR >>>> in charge of counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
>>>> Do you not think anything out, Froggie?
>>>> Or is the US military establishment that dumb and desperate and >>>> stupid to keep someone like that on their rolls.
>>>> - nilita
>>> Cuz he did nothing illegal. THINK LaN, neither the Army nor the FBI >>> can say anything about his disagreement with the wars. Supposedly >>> nothing bad about being a muslim. Calling himself a Palestinian is >>> not bad. Telling people what he thinks the Koran says about >>> unbelievers is protected speech. So, find one thing he could have >>> been "weeded out" for in these PC times? >>> Remember, there are muslim members of the US army and they need >>> counselors too so perhaps the Army thought he was of value.
>> Think about it even more: >> "Muslim shrink in the US Army" otherwise known as "Seriously Good >> Asset" for getting into the heads of people in Iraq. Even if he did >> not want to go he could be very useful. Many people who were against >> the war in Iraq went there and sucked it up and have really tried to >> be helpful. Even considering his poor ratings, I'd have hesitated to >> get rid of him simply because of his potential usefulness.
> If he was, as you say, making unprofessional and violent posts on the > internet, the Army should have questioned his "usefulness". The Army has > a lot to answer for if it comes out in the wash that they were covering up > this man's behaviour and slow meltdown. In Canada, someone like that > would have been pulled from his position for a long > debriefing/investigation. Are you yanks that thick and desperate for army > shrinks????!!!! I then would charge you with negligence to perform your > duty to your young men and women in uniform to provide the best > medical/mental health services that they deserve. Shame, shame, shame > ....
> - nilita
he attracted the FBI with internet rants. defending suicide bombers. it shows how desperate the military is to keep people.
Ray O'Hara wrote: > "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:sjiJm.50946$Db2.42000@edtnps83... >> Frogwatch wrote: >>> On Nov 7, 12:26 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote: >>>> On Nov 7, 12:20 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Frogwatch wrote: >>>>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who >>>>>> tells people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants >>>>>> about how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan >>>>>> are. He gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers >>>>>> should be decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how >>>>>> not to get deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins >>>>>> shooting he yells, "Allahuh >>>>>> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar >>>>>> things in the USA.
>>>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be >>>>>> related to religion"?
>>>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI >>>>> not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so >>>>> desperate for shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR >>>>> in charge of counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
>>>>> Do you not think anything out, Froggie?
>>>>> Or is the US military establishment that dumb and desperate and >>>>> stupid to keep someone like that on their rolls.
>>>>> - nilita
>>>> Cuz he did nothing illegal. THINK LaN, neither the Army nor the FBI >>>> can say anything about his disagreement with the wars. Supposedly >>>> nothing bad about being a muslim. Calling himself a Palestinian is >>>> not bad. Telling people what he thinks the Koran says about >>>> unbelievers is protected speech. So, find one thing he could have >>>> been "weeded out" for in these PC times? >>>> Remember, there are muslim members of the US army and they need >>>> counselors too so perhaps the Army thought he was of value.
>>> Think about it even more: >>> "Muslim shrink in the US Army" otherwise known as "Seriously Good >>> Asset" for getting into the heads of people in Iraq. Even if he did >>> not want to go he could be very useful. Many people who were >>> against the war in Iraq went there and sucked it up and have really >>> tried to be helpful. Even considering his poor ratings, I'd have >>> hesitated to get rid of him simply because of his potential >>> usefulness.
>> If he was, as you say, making unprofessional and violent posts on the >> internet, the Army should have questioned his "usefulness". The >> Army has a lot to answer for if it comes out in the wash that they >> were covering up this man's behaviour and slow meltdown. In Canada, >> someone like that would have been pulled from his position for a long >> debriefing/investigation. Are you yanks that thick and desperate >> for army shrinks????!!!! I then would charge you with negligence to >> perform your duty to your young men and women in uniform to provide >> the best medical/mental health services that they deserve. Shame, >> shame, shame ....
>> - nilita
> he attracted the FBI with internet rants. defending suicide bombers. > it shows how desperate the military is to keep people.
Sounds like the military needs to re-think and re-build then. I doubt that this incident is going to enhance recruitment efforts.
> Ray O'Hara wrote: >> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:sjiJm.50946$Db2.42000@edtnps83... >>> Frogwatch wrote: >>>> On Nov 7, 12:26 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote: >>>>> On Nov 7, 12:20 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Frogwatch wrote: >>>>>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who >>>>>>> tells people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants >>>>>>> about how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan >>>>>>> are. He gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers >>>>>>> should be decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how >>>>>>> not to get deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins >>>>>>> shooting he yells, "Allahuh >>>>>>> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar >>>>>>> things in the USA.
>>>>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be >>>>>>> related to religion"?
>>>>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI >>>>>> not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so >>>>>> desperate for shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR >>>>>> in charge of counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
>>>>>> Do you not think anything out, Froggie?
>>>>>> Or is the US military establishment that dumb and desperate and >>>>>> stupid to keep someone like that on their rolls.
>>>>>> - nilita
>>>>> Cuz he did nothing illegal. THINK LaN, neither the Army nor the FBI >>>>> can say anything about his disagreement with the wars. Supposedly >>>>> nothing bad about being a muslim. Calling himself a Palestinian is >>>>> not bad. Telling people what he thinks the Koran says about >>>>> unbelievers is protected speech. So, find one thing he could have >>>>> been "weeded out" for in these PC times? >>>>> Remember, there are muslim members of the US army and they need >>>>> counselors too so perhaps the Army thought he was of value.
>>>> Think about it even more: >>>> "Muslim shrink in the US Army" otherwise known as "Seriously Good >>>> Asset" for getting into the heads of people in Iraq. Even if he did >>>> not want to go he could be very useful. Many people who were >>>> against the war in Iraq went there and sucked it up and have really >>>> tried to be helpful. Even considering his poor ratings, I'd have >>>> hesitated to get rid of him simply because of his potential >>>> usefulness.
>>> If he was, as you say, making unprofessional and violent posts on the >>> internet, the Army should have questioned his "usefulness". The >>> Army has a lot to answer for if it comes out in the wash that they >>> were covering up this man's behaviour and slow meltdown. In Canada, >>> someone like that would have been pulled from his position for a long >>> debriefing/investigation. Are you yanks that thick and desperate >>> for army shrinks????!!!! I then would charge you with negligence to >>> perform your duty to your young men and women in uniform to provide >>> the best medical/mental health services that they deserve. Shame, >>> shame, shame ....
>>> - nilita
>> he attracted the FBI with internet rants. defending suicide bombers. >> it shows how desperate the military is to keep people.
> Sounds like the military needs to re-think and re-build then. I doubt > that this incident is going to enhance recruitment efforts.
there will be a lot of fall out and maybe a ruined career or two before this is concluded.
> Frogwatch wrote: > > On Nov 7, 12:34 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote: > >> On Nov 7, 12:26 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>> On Nov 7, 12:20 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> Frogwatch wrote: > >>>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells > >>>>> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about > >>>>> how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He > >>>>> gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should > >>>>> be decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get > >>>>> deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins shooting he > >>>>> yells, "Allahuh > >>>>> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar > >>>>> things in the USA.
> >>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be > >>>>> related to religion"?
> >>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI > >>>> not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so > >>>> desperate for shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR > >>>> in charge of counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
> >>>> Do you not think anything out, Froggie?
> >>>> Or is the US military establishment that dumb and desperate and > >>>> stupid to keep someone like that on their rolls.
> >>>> - nilita
> >>> Cuz he did nothing illegal. THINK LaN, neither the Army nor the FBI > >>> can say anything about his disagreement with the wars. Supposedly > >>> nothing bad about being a muslim. Calling himself a Palestinian is > >>> not bad. Telling people what he thinks the Koran says about > >>> unbelievers is protected speech. So, find one thing he could have > >>> been "weeded out" for in these PC times? > >>> Remember, there are muslim members of the US army and they need > >>> counselors too so perhaps the Army thought he was of value.
> >> Think about it even more: > >> "Muslim shrink in the US Army" otherwise known as "Seriously Good > >> Asset" for getting into the heads of people in Iraq. Even if he did > >> not want to go he could be very useful. Many people who were against > >> the war in Iraq went there and sucked it up and have really tried to > >> be helpful. Even considering his poor ratings, I'd have hesitated to > >> get rid of him simply because of his potential usefulness.
> > LaN does a great job of blaming the victim while holding blameless the > > PC mindset that makes removing him very difficult. If he had been > > removed, the Army would have been blamed for cultural insensitivity > > toward muslims. LaN, the real blame lies with people like yourself > > who are unable to think clearly about what is relatively "more evil" > > so end up allowing evil to flourish in the name of cultural > > sensitivity. I repeat, people like yourself are responsible for the > > Army not being able to remove him (yes I know you are not in the USA > > but the point remains true).
> There is a universal tenet in the medical/mental health world. If a person > is engaging in unprofessional conduct, and at the very least an > investigation is not performed, then the powers-that-be are negligent. Do > you think these young men and women would have willingly accepted the help > of an anti-American (Muslim) shrink who advocated beheading of infidels? DO > YOU???!!!! Is that how little you think of those who serve in uniform? I, > for one, believe that those in uniform deserve treatment and medical > insurance that would be afforded by/to the most wealthy of your nation > instead of having to attend decrepit VA institutions and rat infested > hospitals. I think they deserve the best shrinks/hospitals (i.e. Mayo), > that your country can give them. I WOULD HAVE REMOVED THAT NUT BRAN IN A > NEW YORK MINUTE. You wouldn't. I believe Armed Forces personnel on active > duty and retired deserve the best of treatment facilities and professionals. > You obviously don't.
> Frogwatch wrote: > > On Nov 7, 12:34 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote: > >> On Nov 7, 12:26 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>> On Nov 7, 12:20 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> Frogwatch wrote: > >>>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells > >>>>> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about > >>>>> how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He > >>>>> gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should > >>>>> be decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get > >>>>> deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins shooting he > >>>>> yells, "Allahuh > >>>>> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar > >>>>> things in the USA.
> >>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be > >>>>> related to religion"?
> >>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI > >>>> not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so > >>>> desperate for shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR > >>>> in charge of counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
> >>>> Do you not think anything out, Froggie?
> >>>> Or is the US military establishment that dumb and desperate and > >>>> stupid to keep someone like that on their rolls.
> >>>> - nilita
> >>> Cuz he did nothing illegal. THINK LaN, neither the Army nor the FBI > >>> can say anything about his disagreement with the wars. Supposedly > >>> nothing bad about being a muslim. Calling himself a Palestinian is > >>> not bad. Telling people what he thinks the Koran says about > >>> unbelievers is protected speech. So, find one thing he could have > >>> been "weeded out" for in these PC times? > >>> Remember, there are muslim members of the US army and they need > >>> counselors too so perhaps the Army thought he was of value.
> >> Think about it even more: > >> "Muslim shrink in the US Army" otherwise known as "Seriously Good > >> Asset" for getting into the heads of people in Iraq. Even if he did > >> not want to go he could be very useful. Many people who were against > >> the war in Iraq went there and sucked it up and have really tried to > >> be helpful. Even considering his poor ratings, I'd have hesitated to > >> get rid of him simply because of his potential usefulness.
> > LaN does a great job of blaming the victim while holding blameless the > > PC mindset that makes removing him very difficult. If he had been > > removed, the Army would have been blamed for cultural insensitivity > > toward muslims. LaN, the real blame lies with people like yourself > > who are unable to think clearly about what is relatively "more evil" > > so end up allowing evil to flourish in the name of cultural > > sensitivity. I repeat, people like yourself are responsible for the > > Army not being able to remove him (yes I know you are not in the USA > > but the point remains true).
> There is a universal tenet in the medical/mental health world. If a person > is engaging in unprofessional conduct, and at the very least an > investigation is not performed, then the powers-that-be are negligent. Do > you think these young men and women would have willingly accepted the help > of an anti-American (Muslim) shrink who advocated beheading of infidels? > DO > YOU???!!!! Is that how little you think of those who serve in uniform? I, > for one, believe that those in uniform deserve treatment and medical > insurance that would be afforded by/to the most wealthy of your nation > instead of having to attend decrepit VA institutions and rat infested > hospitals. I think they deserve the best shrinks/hospitals (i.e. Mayo), > that your country can give them. I WOULD HAVE REMOVED THAT NUT BRAN IN A > NEW YORK MINUTE. You wouldn't. I believe Armed Forces personnel on active > duty and retired deserve the best of treatment facilities and > professionals. > You obviously don't.
> I have to take off for a bit now, so I'll read it later. The topic > doesn't surprise me in the least, though.
Okay, I've read it. It's about the shortage of therapists for the military and the amount of compassion fatigue suffered by the overworked/overstressed therapists that are on board. This is also a no-brainer (for me and many others at least). When you spend much of your life listening to tragedy after tragedy after tragedy and at times feel helpless and ineffective to make it better for the person who is in pain, it does get to you, especially if you yourself - as the therapist - do not have balance in other aspects of your life.
I am not interested in giving cred to those "brave" armchair warriors who think that soldiers should just "suck it up" and who believe that those who have not been personally involved in combat, but are "support staff", should not be "allowed" to suffer a post traumatic syndrome.
Fred J. McCall wrote: > "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> :Frogwatch wrote: > :> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells > :> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about how > :> evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He gives a > :> talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be decapitated > :> and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get deployed to Iraq > :> due to religion. Before he begins shooting he yells, "Allahuh > :> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar > :> things in the USA. > :> > :> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related > :> to religion"? > : > :ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI not have > :the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so desperate for > :shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR in charge of > :counselling people who were suffering from PTSD? > :
> You can't cashier an officer just because you don't like his opinions, > Nilita. Not in this country, you can't.
Don't they have a crime that is like 'Actions prejudicial to good order and discipline'.
Something that is used by the British army to stop serving officers, for example, writing letters highly critical of operations or personalities or policies?
-- William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
> Fred J. McCall wrote: > > "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > :Frogwatch wrote: > > :> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells > > :> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about how > > :> evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He gives a > > :> talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be decapitated > > :> and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get deployed to Iraq > > :> due to religion. Before he begins shooting he yells, "Allahuh > > :> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar > > :> things in the USA. > > :> > > :> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related > > :> to religion"? > > : > > :ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI not have > > :the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so desperate for > > :shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR in charge of > > :counselling people who were suffering from PTSD? > > :
> > You can't cashier an officer just because you don't like his opinions, > > Nilita. Not in this country, you can't.
> Don't they have a crime that is like 'Actions prejudicial to good order > and discipline'.
> Something that is used by the British army to stop serving officers, > for example, writing letters highly critical of operations or > personalities or policies?
> -- > William Black
> "Any number under six"
> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of > Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat > single handed with a quarterstaff.
Back to the original question, who thinks the killings were unrelated to him being a muslim?
> Fred J. McCall wrote: >> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> :Frogwatch wrote: >> :> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells >> :> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about how >> :> evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He gives a >> :> talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be decapitated >> :> and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get deployed to Iraq >> :> due to religion. Before he begins shooting he yells, "Allahuh >> :> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar >> :> things in the USA. >> :> >> :> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related >> :> to religion"? >> : >> :ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI not >> have :the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so desperate >> for :shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR in charge of >> :counselling people who were suffering from PTSD? >> :
>> You can't cashier an officer just because you don't like his opinions, >> Nilita. Not in this country, you can't.
> Don't they have a crime that is like 'Actions prejudicial to good order > and discipline'.
> Something that is used by the British army to stop serving officers, for > example, writing letters highly critical of operations or personalities > or policies?
Or even an "offer of assistance" if you see one of your [men] is going off the deep end?
If those who were under treatment by this doctor had *known* of this doctor's prejudices, they would not have chosen his "help". Therefore, their own treatment was compromised.
Frogwatch wrote: > On Nov 7, 5:17 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> Fred J. McCall wrote: >>> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Frogwatch wrote: >>>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells >>>>> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about >>>>> how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He >>>>> gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should >>>>> be decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get >>>>> deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins shooting he >>>>> yells, "Allahuh >>>>> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar >>>>> things in the USA.
>>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be >>>>> related to religion"?
>>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI >>>> not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so >>>> desperate for shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR >>>> in charge of counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
>>> You can't cashier an officer just because you don't like his >>> opinions, Nilita. Not in this country, you can't.
>> Don't they have a crime that is like 'Actions prejudicial to good >> order and discipline'.
>> Something that is used by the British army to stop serving officers, >> for example, writing letters highly critical of operations or >> personalities or policies?
>> -- >> William Black
>> "Any number under six"
>> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke >> of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could >> beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
> Back to the original question, who thinks the killings were unrelated > to him being a muslim?
None of us know, do we. Each person has his/her own theory.
> On Nov 7, 5:17 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > Fred J. McCall wrote: > > > "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > :Frogwatch wrote: > > > :> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells > > > :> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about how > > > :> evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He gives a > > > :> talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should be decapitated > > > :> and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to get deployed to Iraq > > > :> due to religion. Before he begins shooting he yells, "Allahuh > > > :> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar > > > :> things in the USA. > > > :> > > > :> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be related > > > :> to religion"? > > > : > > > :ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or FBI not have > > > :the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so desperate for > > > :shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR in charge of > > > :counselling people who were suffering from PTSD? > > > :
> > > You can't cashier an officer just because you don't like his opinions, > > > Nilita. Not in this country, you can't.
> > Don't they have a crime that is like 'Actions prejudicial to good order > > and discipline'.
> > Something that is used by the British army to stop serving officers, > > for example, writing letters highly critical of operations or > > personalities or policies?
> > -- > > William Black
> > "Any number under six"
> > The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of > > Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat > > single handed with a quarterstaff.
> Back to the original question, who thinks the killings were unrelated > to him being a muslim?
He killed several medical/psychiatric personnel. Were they killed because he was a Muslim?
>>>> Frogwatch wrote: >>>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who tells >>>>> people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants about >>>>> how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are. He >>>>> gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers should >>>>> be decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how not to >>>>> get deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins shooting >>>>> he yells, "Allahuh Akbar". There is a history of muslim >>>>> religious nuts doing similar things in the USA.
>>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be >>>>> related to religion"?
>>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or >>>> FBI not >>> have :the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military so >>> desperate for :shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this MAJOR >>> in charge of >>>> counselling people who were suffering from PTSD?
>>> You can't cashier an officer just because you don't like his >>> opinions, Nilita. Not in this country, you can't.
>> Don't they have a crime that is like 'Actions prejudicial to good >> order and discipline'.
>> Something that is used by the British army to stop serving officers, >> for example, writing letters highly critical of operations or >> personalities or policies?
> Or even an "offer of assistance" if you see one of your [men] is > going off the deep end?
> If those who were under treatment by this doctor had *known* of this > doctor's prejudices, they would not have chosen his "help". Therefore, > their own treatment was compromised.
btw, if a civilian had been tracked for such postings, as allegedly this doctor had, that civilian would no doubt be put on the DO NOT FLY list. Looks like they were going to send Doc off to Afghanistan where he could continue to be "of service" [hating America and advocating beheading of infidels].
Jack Linthicum wrote: > On Nov 7, 5:19 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote: >> On Nov 7, 5:17 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Fred J. McCall wrote: >>>> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Frogwatch wrote: >>>>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who >>>>>> tells people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants >>>>>> about how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan >>>>>> are. He gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers >>>>>> should be decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how >>>>>> not to get deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins >>>>>> shooting he yells, "Allahuh >>>>>> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar >>>>>> things in the USA.
>>>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be >>>>>> related to religion"?
>>>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or >>>>> FBI not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military >>>>> so desperate for shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this >>>>> MAJOR in charge of counselling people who were suffering from >>>>> PTSD?
>>>> You can't cashier an officer just because you don't like his >>>> opinions, Nilita. Not in this country, you can't.
>>> Don't they have a crime that is like 'Actions prejudicial to good >>> order and discipline'.
>>> Something that is used by the British army to stop serving officers, >>> for example, writing letters highly critical of operations or >>> personalities or policies?
>>> -- >>> William Black
>>> "Any number under six"
>>> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke >>> of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could >>> beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
>> Back to the original question, who thinks the killings were unrelated >> to him being a muslim?
> He killed several medical/psychiatric personnel. Were they killed > because he was a Muslim?
Watch. Froggie is going to say that the killer voted for Obama, and that has something to do with it.
> Jack Linthicum wrote: > > On Nov 7, 5:19 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote: > >> On Nov 7, 5:17 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> Fred J. McCall wrote: > >>>> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Frogwatch wrote: > >>>>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who > >>>>>> tells people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants > >>>>>> about how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan > >>>>>> are. He gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers > >>>>>> should be decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how > >>>>>> not to get deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins > >>>>>> shooting he yells, "Allahuh > >>>>>> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar > >>>>>> things in the USA.
> >>>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be > >>>>>> related to religion"?
> >>>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or > >>>>> FBI not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military > >>>>> so desperate for shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this > >>>>> MAJOR in charge of counselling people who were suffering from > >>>>> PTSD?
> >>>> You can't cashier an officer just because you don't like his > >>>> opinions, Nilita. Not in this country, you can't.
> >>> Don't they have a crime that is like 'Actions prejudicial to good > >>> order and discipline'.
> >>> Something that is used by the British army to stop serving officers, > >>> for example, writing letters highly critical of operations or > >>> personalities or policies?
> >>> -- > >>> William Black
> >>> "Any number under six"
> >>> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke > >>> of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could > >>> beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
> >> Back to the original question, who thinks the killings were unrelated > >> to him being a muslim?
> > He killed several medical/psychiatric personnel. Were they killed > > because he was a Muslim?
> Watch. Froggie is going to say that the killer voted for Obama, and that > has something to do with it.
> <rolling eyes>
Wait a minute, I gotta digest this.............LaN "doesnt know" if the killings were related to religion? OK. lets try this. Do you see any relationship between it being light outside and the sun being in the sky? Too hard? OK, we;ll make it easy. Do you see any relationship between being thirsty and drinking water?
Frogwatch wrote: > On Nov 7, 5:29 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Jack Linthicum wrote: >>> On Nov 7, 5:19 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote: >>>> On Nov 7, 5:17 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> >>>> wrote:
>>>>> Fred J. McCall wrote: >>>>>> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Frogwatch wrote: >>>>>>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who >>>>>>>> tells people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly >>>>>>>> rants about how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and >>>>>>>> Afghanistan are. He gives a talk to other medical pros about >>>>>>>> how unbelievers should be decapitated and burnt. He asks for >>>>>>>> advice about how not to get deployed to Iraq due to religion. >>>>>>>> Before he begins shooting he yells, "Allahuh >>>>>>>> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing >>>>>>>> similar things in the USA.
>>>>>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be >>>>>>>> related to religion"?
>>>>>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or >>>>>>> FBI not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military >>>>>>> so desperate for shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this >>>>>>> MAJOR in charge of counselling people who were suffering from >>>>>>> PTSD?
>>>>>> You can't cashier an officer just because you don't like his >>>>>> opinions, Nilita. Not in this country, you can't.
>>>>> Don't they have a crime that is like 'Actions prejudicial to good >>>>> order and discipline'.
>>>>> Something that is used by the British army to stop serving >>>>> officers, for example, writing letters highly critical of >>>>> operations or personalities or policies?
>>>>> -- >>>>> William Black
>>>>> "Any number under six"
>>>>> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the >>>>> Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he >>>>> could beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
>>>> Back to the original question, who thinks the killings were >>>> unrelated to him being a muslim?
>>> He killed several medical/psychiatric personnel. Were they killed >>> because he was a Muslim?
>> Watch. Froggie is going to say that the killer voted for Obama, and >> that has something to do with it.
>> <rolling eyes>
> Wait a minute, I gotta digest this.............LaN "doesnt know" if > the killings were related to religion? OK. lets try this. Do you see > any relationship between it being light outside and the sun being in > the sky? Too hard? OK, we;ll make it easy. Do you see any > relationship between being thirsty and drinking water?
It could be related to a *lot* of things, Froggy, including religion. If it were all about religion, I don't suppose that he would have enlisted in the US military to help the infidels, ya think? Or. It might have also had something to do with his mental health distintegrating. And./or it might have had something to do with not getting along with his peers at [whatever institute].
People commit all sorts of crimes in the name of God, insisting that God directed them thus. How about that women in Texas who drowned all her kiddies in the bathtub. A very religious woman. Andrea Yates was her name. Do we blame Christianity for her unraveling? Do we blame Christianity for the fellow who killed an abortion doctor a few months ago in the name of God?
> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: > :Jack Linthicum wrote:
> :> On Nov 7, 5:19 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote: > :>> On Nov 7, 5:17 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > :>> > :>> > :>> > :>>> Fred J. McCall wrote: > :>>>> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: > :>>:>>>>> Frogwatch wrote:
> :>>>>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who > :>>>>>> tells people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly rants > :>>>>>> about how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan > :>>>>>> are. He gives a talk to other medical pros about how unbelievers > :>>>>>> should be decapitated and burnt. He asks for advice about how > :>>>>>> not to get deployed to Iraq due to religion. Before he begins > :>>>>>> shooting he yells, "Allahuh > :>>>>>> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing similar > :>>>>>> things in the USA. > :>>>>>> > :>>>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be > :>>>>>> related to religion"? > :>>>>> > :>>>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or > :>>>>> FBI not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the military > :>>>>> so desperate for shrinks that they felt a need to maintain this > :>>>>> MAJOR in charge of counselling people who were suffering from > :>>>>> PTSD? > :>>>>> > :>> > :>>>> You can't cashier an officer just because you don't like his > :>>>> opinions, Nilita. Not in this country, you can't. > :>> > :>>> Don't they have a crime that is like 'Actions prejudicial to good > :>>> order and discipline'. > :>> > :>>> Something that is used by the British army to stop serving officers, > :>>> for example, writing letters highly critical of operations or > :>>> personalities or policies? > :>> > :>>> -- > :>>> William Black > :>> > :>>> "Any number under six" > :>> > :>>> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke > :>>> of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could > :>>> beat single handed with a quarterstaff. > :>> > :>> Back to the original question, who thinks the killings were unrelated > :>> to him being a muslim? > :> > :> He killed several medical/psychiatric personnel. Were they killed > :> because he was a Muslim? > : > :Watch. Froggie is going to say that the killer voted for Obama, and that > :has something to do with it. > : > :<rolling eyes> > :
> Watch. Nilita can't address any of the real issues, so she'll keep > trying to talk about Obama.
> <your eyes wouldn't roll like that if there was anything behind them>
> -- > "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar > territory." > --G. Behn
I have not mentioned Obama but LaN somehow brings him into this, an obsession maybe?
Frogwatch wrote: > On Nov 7, 5:59 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Jack Linthicum wrote:
>>>> On Nov 7, 5:19 pm, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote: >>>>> On Nov 7, 5:17 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Fred J. McCall wrote: >>>>>>> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Frogwatch wrote:
>>>>>>>>> OooooooooK, we have a serious Muslim born in the USA but who >>>>>>>>> tells people his nationality is Palestinian. He constantly >>>>>>>>> rants about how evil he thinks the US wars in Iraq and >>>>>>>>> Afghanistan are. He gives a talk to other medical pros about >>>>>>>>> how unbelievers should be decapitated and burnt. He asks for >>>>>>>>> advice about how not to get deployed to Iraq due to religion. >>>>>>>>> Before he begins shooting he yells, "Allahuh >>>>>>>>> Akbar". There is a history of muslim religious nuts doing >>>>>>>>> similar things in the USA.
>>>>>>>>> Now the test: Who thinks the Fort Hood Incident "May not be >>>>>>>>> related to religion"?
>>>>>>>> ALLEGEDLY. If all of this is true, why did the military and/or >>>>>>>> FBI not have the cojones to weed him out. EH??? Are the >>>>>>>> military so desperate for shrinks that they felt a need to >>>>>>>> maintain this MAJOR in charge of counselling people who were >>>>>>>> suffering from PTSD?
>>>>>>> You can't cashier an officer just because you don't like his >>>>>>> opinions, Nilita. Not in this country, you can't.
>>>>>> Don't they have a crime that is like 'Actions prejudicial to good >>>>>> order and discipline'.
>>>>>> Something that is used by the British army to stop serving >>>>>> officers, for example, writing letters highly critical of >>>>>> operations or personalities or policies?
>>>>>> -- >>>>>> William Black
>>>>>> "Any number under six"
>>>>>> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the >>>>>> Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he >>>>>> could beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
>>>>> Back to the original question, who thinks the killings were >>>>> unrelated to him being a muslim?
>>>> He killed several medical/psychiatric personnel. Were they killed >>>> because he was a Muslim?
>>> Watch. Froggie is going to say that the killer voted for Obama, and >>> that has something to do with it.
>> :<rolling eyes>
>> Watch. Nilita can't address any of the real issues, so she'll keep >> trying to talk about Obama.
>> <your eyes wouldn't roll like that if there was anything behind them>
>> -- >> "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar >> territory." >> --G. Behn
> I have not mentioned Obama but LaN somehow brings him into this, an > obsession maybe?
Whether you like it or not, those of you who suffer from Obama Derangement Syndrome (ODS), he *is* the Commander-in-Chief. Only partisans such as yourself(ves) would try to sever him from that role.
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