On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:37:54 GMT, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Anyway, it might not even be a fundamentalist Muslim thing. It could be >that he is a psychiatrist who cracked under the stress of debriefing too >many horror stories.
A lot of head shrinkers are nuts without any provocation.
> : > :All that stuff about PTSD and harassment is BS,just a lame attempt at > :excusing his behavior. Who harasses a MAJOR? > :
> Colonels and senior sergeants.
> -- > "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the > truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong." > -- Thomas Jefferson
> > : > > :All that stuff about PTSD and harassment is BS,just a lame attempt at > > :excusing his behavior. Who harasses a MAJOR? > > :
> > Colonels and senior sergeants.
> > -- > > "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the > > truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong." > > -- Thomas Jefferson
> A case of PPTSD (Pre-PTSD) as someone called it.
LaN: You really opened yourself for an easy shot with that "Obama having the toughest job" bit but I'll resist except to point out that it was an irrellevant thing to say.
> > > : > > > :All that stuff about PTSD and harassment is BS,just a lame attempt at > > > :excusing his behavior. Who harasses a MAJOR? > > > :
> > > Colonels and senior sergeants.
> > > -- > > > "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the > > > truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong." > > > -- Thomas Jefferson
> > A case of PPTSD (Pre-PTSD) as someone called it.
> LaN: You really opened yourself for an easy shot with that "Obama > having the toughest job" bit but I'll resist except to point out that > it was an irrellevant thing to say.
> William Hamblen wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:48:50 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch > > <ohara...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >> What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in? > >> If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be?
> > Ft Hood is a federal reservation and the shooter was active duty Army, > > the shot were active duty Army, mostly, and murder is a crime under > > the UCMJ, so I'd guess that the Army would get first crack at him. At > > least one of the wounded was a Texas law enforcement officer, so Texas > > can get in on the act if it wants to.
> > Bud
> Nope. Strictly a Federal matter as it happened on a Federal reserve. > I wonder why Texas Police were even on base? Military personal that are > wanted by other then Federal authorities are usually delivered to the > gate by Military Police. Also nonmilitary personal(Police) are required > to check all weapons at the gate. Kudo's to that Female civilian officer > that pumped 4 rounds into the killer and stopped further mayhem. I would > guess the dead Police officer also got a shot or two in before being > shot to death. Nancy Pelosi will more then likely work to ban any > weapons on american soil after this.
Considering his prior statements to various people about what he thought of non-muslims, could this be considered a "hate crime".
he murdered 13 people Dave. so drop[ your Faux news phoney outrage. I know, you don't listen to Rush, its just great minds think alike. but they don't have to add any extra crap.
How typical of the rightwing that this is just seen as an opportunity to score cheap political points.
> : > :All that stuff about PTSD and harassment is BS,just a lame attempt at > :excusing his behavior. Who harasses a MAJOR? > :
> Colonels and senior sergeants.
> -- > "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the > truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong." > -- Thomas Jefferson
> Ray O'Hara wrote: >> "Alexander" <Alexan...@thegreat.org> wrote in message >> news:7lk344F3dldb5U1@mid.individual.net... >>> William Hamblen wrote: >>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:48:50 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch >>>> <ohara...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>> What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in? >>>>> If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be? >>>> Ft Hood is a federal reservation and the shooter was active duty Army, >>>> the shot were active duty Army, mostly, and murder is a crime under >>>> the UCMJ, so I'd guess that the Army would get first crack at him. At >>>> least one of the wounded was a Texas law enforcement officer, so Texas >>>> can get in on the act if it wants to.
>>>> Bud >>> Nope. Strictly a Federal matter as it happened on a Federal reserve. >>> I wonder why Texas Police were even on base? Military personal that are >>> wanted by other then Federal authorities are usually delivered to the >>> gate by Military Police. Also nonmilitary personal(Police) are required >>> to check all weapons at the gate. Kudo's to that Female civilian officer >>> that pumped 4 rounds into the killer and stopped further mayhem. I would >>> guess the dead Police officer also got a shot or two in before being >>> shot to death. Nancy Pelosi will more then likely work to ban any >>> weapons on american soil after this.
>> The wingnuts will claim that Pelosi will try . >> but that is to fool weak muinded dupes who vote republican >> Nancy Pelosi can't overturn the Bill of Rights
> : > :"Frogwatch" <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote in message > :news:de267c8d-a007-411a-bc66-26b309959953@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > :On Nov 6, 9:08 pm, Alexander <Alexan...@thegreat.org> wrote: > :> William Hamblen wrote: > :> > On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:48:50 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch > :> > <ohara...@mindspring.com> wrote: > :> > :> >> What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in? > :> >> If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be? > :> > :> > Ft Hood is a federal reservation and the shooter was active duty > Army, > :> > the shot were active duty Army, mostly, and murder is a crime under > :> > the UCMJ, so I'd guess that the Army would get first crack at him. At > :> > least one of the wounded was a Texas law enforcement officer, so > Texas > :> > can get in on the act if it wants to. > :> > :> > Bud > :> > :> Nope. Strictly a Federal matter as it happened on a Federal reserve. > :> I wonder why Texas Police were even on base? Military personal that are > :> wanted by other then Federal authorities are usually delivered to the > :> gate by Military Police. Also nonmilitary personal(Police) are required > :> to check all weapons at the gate. Kudo's to that Female civilian > officer > :> that pumped 4 rounds into the killer and stopped further mayhem. I > would > :> guess the dead Police officer also got a shot or two in before being > :> shot to death. Nancy Pelosi will more then likely work to ban any > :> weapons on american soil after this. > : > :Considering his prior statements to various people about what he > :thought of non-muslims, could this be considered a "hate crime". > : > :========================================================================== > : > :he murdered 13 people Dave. so drop[ your Faux news phoney outrage. > :I know, you don't listen to Rush, its just great minds think alike. > : but they don't have to add any extra crap. > : > :How typical of the rightwing that this is just seen as an opportunity to > :score cheap political points. > :
> What? You mean you Lefty Loons NOW decide that 'hate crimes' > prosecution is unnecessary because the acts involved are already > illegal?
> Wow, amazing how even the most purblind can sometimes find wisdom, > isn't it?
you won't find any posts from me advocating hate crimes, Fred.
>> La N wrote: >>> Alexander wrote: >>>> La N wrote: >>>>> Ray O'Hara wrote: >>>>>> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:By4Jm.50855$Db2.45189@edtnps83... >>>>>>> deemsb...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>> On Nov 6, 2:55 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Frogwatch <ohara...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in? >>>>>>>>> Court Martial. >>>>>>>> Can he not request a Federal Court trial?
>>>>>>>>>> If he did this for political motives, what might the charges >>>>>>>>>> be? >>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter why he did it. The charge will almost >>>>>>>>> certainly be multiple counts of murder with special >>>>>>>>> circumstances.
>>>>>>>> Yep, you gotta figure 13 counts of 1st Degree and 30+ >>>>>>>> counts >>>>>>>> of Attempted 1st Degree should be enough. >>>>>>> He most certainly is looking at the death penalty. I wonder if >>>>>>> he will think it was all worth it in the end ...
>>>>>>> - nilita
>>>>>> I don't think he expected to survive when he started out >>>>>> yeaterday. >>>>> If things had gone according to plan, about now he'd be lying in a >>>>> hammock being spoonfed by 72 virgins next to a river of wine. >>>> He is a Muslim. That wine has to be made from Honey. Called Meade. >>>> Nasty stuff.
>>> Anyway, it might not even be a fundamentalist Muslim thing.
> Yeah,you keep telling yourself that.Delude yourself even further.
>>> It could >>> be that he is a psychiatrist who cracked under the stress of >>> debriefing too many horror stories. Because if the rumours are >>> correct (and usually they aren't) and he was making all sorts of >>> provocative internet postings, then WTF happened to the FBI that >>> they hadn't busted him before now, as allegedly they were tracking >>> his actions. Anyway, he's not talking, and before long he'll be >>> lawyered up and it will be a long time before people know "the >>> truth". A bigger concern, IMHO, is that already overstressed >>> troops have this thrown on them. The short and long term effects >>> of this bloody act will have implications in force morale and >>> capability, not to mention, political ramifications. Obama has the >>> toughest j*b in the world right now.
> He ASKED for it.Time he began DOING it and stop politicking. > No voting "Present".
>>> As one commentator put it, "[America] is not a >>> nation at war. It's the troops who are at war." For most Americans >>> these ongoing trials in Iraq and Afghanistan are an abstract >>> concept. For those directly involved, including family members and >>> loved ones, it is getting to be way too much.
>>> - nilita
>> Well one thing for sure. He is not going to be deployed to the Middle >> East.
> yeah Nilita,excuse all his radical postings and comments.....
> It's NOT PTSD. > You don't get that from hearing OTHER peoples experiences.
There is not a one of us here who knows what actually happened and why. Until the so-called "truth" comes out, we are all injecting our own conspiracy theories, INCLUDING YOU!
>>>>> All that stuff about PTSD and harassment is BS,just a lame >>>>> attempt at excusing his behavior. Who harasses a MAJOR?
>>>> Colonels and senior sergeants.
>>>> -- >>>> "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the >>>> truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong." >>>> -- Thomas Jefferson
>>> A case of PPTSD (Pre-PTSD) as someone called it.
>> LaN: You really opened yourself for an easy shot with that "Obama >> having the toughest job" bit but I'll resist except to point out that >> it was an irrellevant thing to say.
> ? WTF?
TRANSLATION: [Froggie] "I hate Obama with all my heart and soul!"
> >> La N wrote: > >>> Alexander wrote: > >>>> La N wrote: > >>>>> Ray O'Hara wrote: > >>>>>> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:By4Jm.50855$Db2.45189@edtnps83... > >>>>>>> deemsb...@aol.com wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Nov 6, 2:55 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Frogwatch <ohara...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in? > >>>>>>>>> Court Martial. > >>>>>>>> Can he not request a Federal Court trial?
> >>>>>>>>>> If he did this for political motives, what might the charges > >>>>>>>>>> be? > >>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter why he did it. The charge will almost > >>>>>>>>> certainly be multiple counts of murder with special > >>>>>>>>> circumstances.
> >>>>>>>> Yep, you gotta figure 13 counts of 1st Degree and 30+ > >>>>>>>> counts > >>>>>>>> of Attempted 1st Degree should be enough. > >>>>>>> He most certainly is looking at the death penalty. I wonder if > >>>>>>> he will think it was all worth it in the end ...
> >>>>>>> - nilita
> >>>>>> I don't think he expected to survive when he started out > >>>>>> yeaterday. > >>>>> If things had gone according to plan, about now he'd be lying in a > >>>>> hammock being spoonfed by 72 virgins next to a river of wine. > >>>> He is a Muslim. That wine has to be made from Honey. Called Meade. > >>>> Nasty stuff.
> >>> Anyway, it might not even be a fundamentalist Muslim thing.
> > Yeah,you keep telling yourself that.Delude yourself even further.
> >>> It could > >>> be that he is a psychiatrist who cracked under the stress of > >>> debriefing too many horror stories. Because if the rumours are > >>> correct (and usually they aren't) and he was making all sorts of > >>> provocative internet postings, then WTF happened to the FBI that > >>> they hadn't busted him before now, as allegedly they were tracking > >>> his actions. Anyway, he's not talking, and before long he'll be > >>> lawyered up and it will be a long time before people know "the > >>> truth". A bigger concern, IMHO, is that already overstressed > >>> troops have this thrown on them. The short and long term effects > >>> of this bloody act will have implications in force morale and > >>> capability, not to mention, political ramifications. Obama has the > >>> toughest j*b in the world right now.
> > He ASKED for it.Time he began DOING it and stop politicking. > > No voting "Present".
> >>> As one commentator put it, "[America] is not a > >>> nation at war. It's the troops who are at war." For most Americans > >>> these ongoing trials in Iraq and Afghanistan are an abstract > >>> concept. For those directly involved, including family members and > >>> loved ones, it is getting to be way too much.
> >>> - nilita
> >> Well one thing for sure. He is not going to be deployed to the Middle > >> East.
> > yeah Nilita,excuse all his radical postings and comments.....
> > It's NOT PTSD. > > You don't get that from hearing OTHER peoples experiences.
> There is not a one of us here who knows what actually happened and why. > Until the so-called "truth" comes out, we are all injecting our own > conspiracy theories, INCLUDING YOU!
> Sheesh.
> - nilita
I read an account of those who were killed. Five were in the medical or psychiatric fields. Physicians assistant, Pschiatric nurse, Nurse practicioner, Physician's assistant, one of the wounded was a Mental Health spec.
> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: > :Jack Linthicum wrote:
> :> On Nov 7, 11:35 am, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote: > :>> > :>> LaN: You really opened yourself for an easy shot with that "Obama > :>> having the toughest job" bit but I'll resist except to point out that > :>> it was an irrellevant thing to say. > :> > :> ? WTF? > :> > : > :TRANSLATION: [Froggie] "I hate Obama with all my heart and soul!" > :
> What horse manure! Perhaps you'd care to explain to us just why > "Obama has a hard job" is relevant to a nutball losing it at Fort > Hood?
> -- > "You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of > your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear." > -- Mark Twain
Well, he has a job that would be impossible for you to do: he has to act like he cares.
Jack Linthicum wrote: > On Nov 7, 12:47 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Jack Linthicum wrote:
>>>> On Nov 7, 11:35 am, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>> LaN: You really opened yourself for an easy shot with that "Obama >>>>> having the toughest job" bit but I'll resist except to point out >>>>> that it was an irrellevant thing to say.
>>>> ? WTF?
>>> TRANSLATION: [Froggie] "I hate Obama with all my heart and soul!"
>> What horse manure! Perhaps you'd care to explain to us just why >> "Obama has a hard job" is relevant to a nutball losing it at Fort >> Hood?
>> -- >> "You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of >> your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear." >> -- Mark Twain
> Well, he has a job that would be impossible for you to do: he has to > act like he cares.
Indeed. But, beyond that, he has to address the burning issue of troop burnout at a time when more is being asked of the Armed Forces. *They* are the ones fighting the wars, not us who sit comfortably in front of our computer screens discussing what "should" and "should not" be done while we get our war experience from newspapers and TV.
> Jack Linthicum wrote: > > On Nov 7, 12:47 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> Jack Linthicum wrote:
> >>>> On Nov 7, 11:35 am, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>>>> LaN: You really opened yourself for an easy shot with that "Obama > >>>>> having the toughest job" bit but I'll resist except to point out > >>>>> that it was an irrellevant thing to say.
> >>>> ? WTF?
> >>> TRANSLATION: [Froggie] "I hate Obama with all my heart and soul!"
> >> What horse manure! Perhaps you'd care to explain to us just why > >> "Obama has a hard job" is relevant to a nutball losing it at Fort > >> Hood?
> >> -- > >> "You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of > >> your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear." > >> -- Mark Twain
> > Well, he has a job that would be impossible for you to do: he has to > > act like he cares.
> Indeed. But, beyond that, he has to address the burning issue of troop > burnout at a time when more is being asked of the Armed Forces. *They* are > the ones fighting the wars, not us who sit comfortably in front of our > computer screens discussing what "should" and "should not" be done while we > get our war experience from newspapers and TV.
> - nilita
I think the past experience of other countries that have tried to make Afghanistan over tells us one thing: get out. Maybe play a game of just having troops in the cities where they can bolster the economy, but clear out of the hinterland. This isn't 19th Century America where you put all the bad guys on reservations.
Jack Linthicum wrote: > On Nov 7, 1:00 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Jack Linthicum wrote: >>> On Nov 7, 12:47 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> Jack Linthicum wrote:
>>>>>> On Nov 7, 11:35 am, Frogwatch <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> LaN: You really opened yourself for an easy shot with that >>>>>>> "Obama having the toughest job" bit but I'll resist except to >>>>>>> point out that it was an irrellevant thing to say.
>>>>>> ? WTF?
>>>>> TRANSLATION: [Froggie] "I hate Obama with all my heart and soul!"
>>>> What horse manure! Perhaps you'd care to explain to us just why >>>> "Obama has a hard job" is relevant to a nutball losing it at Fort >>>> Hood?
>>>> -- >>>> "You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of >>>> your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear." >>>> -- Mark Twain
>>> Well, he has a job that would be impossible for you to do: he has to >>> act like he cares.
>> Indeed. But, beyond that, he has to address the burning issue of >> troop burnout at a time when more is being asked of the Armed >> Forces. *They* are the ones fighting the wars, not us who sit >> comfortably in front of our computer screens discussing what >> "should" and "should not" be done while we get our war experience >> from newspapers and TV.
>> - nilita
> I think the past experience of other countries that have tried to make > Afghanistan over tells us one thing: get out. Maybe play a game of > just having troops in the cities where they can bolster the economy, > but clear out of the hinterland. This isn't 19th Century America where > you put all the bad guys on reservations.
Ya think????
Like I said, I feel sorry for Obama who has inherited this mess and has to make some decisions which, of course, will not be popular with many, no matter what he decides.
> : > :"Frogwatch" <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote in message > :news:83673c57-e681-434d-a589-1cbc5da6a2b3@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... > :On Nov 7, 9:48 am, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote: > :> Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote: > :> > :> : > :> :All that stuff about PTSD and harassment is BS,just a lame attempt at > :> :excusing his behavior. Who harasses a MAJOR? > :> : > :> > :> Colonels and senior sergeants. > :> > :> -- > :> "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the > :> truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong." > :> -- Thomas Jefferson > : > :A case of PPTSD (Pre-PTSD) as someone called it. > : > :============================================================ > : > :as far as I know the actual shooter hasn't made any claims yet nor does > he > :have a lawyer speaking for him, he's {supposedly} still in a coma. > :
Jack Linthicum wrote: > On Nov 7, 3:19 am, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> La N wrote: >>> If things had gone according to plan, about now he'd be lying in a hammock >>> being spoonfed by 72 virgins next to a river of wine. >> Do you seriously believe a psychiatrist who is also a major in the US >> army is that unsophisticated?
>> -- >> William Black
>> "Any number under six"
>> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of >> Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat >> single handed with a quarterstaff.
> He dressed in Muslim attire before going forward and yelled Allah > Akbar before he started shooting. But on the other hand he bought a > very expensive gun and gave away his belongings.
I have news for you.
'Kurta pyjama' is not exclusively Muslim.
-- William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
Fred J. McCall wrote: > William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> :Fred J. McCall wrote: > :> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: > :> > :> : > :> :Anyway, it might not even be a fundamentalist Muslim thing. It could be > :> :that he is a psychiatrist who cracked under the stress of debriefing too > :> :many horror stories. > :> : > :> > :> Yeah, he's just a poor, abused baby and it's the evil war's fault. > :> > : > :Well it's certainly not normal behaviour. > : > :What do you suggest? > :
> I suggest he was a mentally weak individual who probably shouldn't > have been commissioned in the first place. People crack up and kill > people unrelated to wars all the time.
That's remarkably sensible of you Fred.
You're to be commended...
The obvious question to ask now is 'Who picked him, and why?'
-- William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
>> : >> :"Frogwatch" <dboh...@mindspring.com> wrote in message >> :news:de267c8d-a007-411a-bc66-26b309959953@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >> :On Nov 6, 9:08 pm, Alexander <Alexan...@thegreat.org> wrote: >> :> William Hamblen wrote: >> :> > On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:48:50 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch >> :> > <ohara...@mindspring.com> wrote: >> :> >> :> >> What jurisdiction would the shooter be tried in? >> :> >> If he did this for political motives, what might the charges be? >> :> >> :> > Ft Hood is a federal reservation and the shooter was active duty >> Army, >> :> > the shot were active duty Army, mostly, and murder is a crime under >> :> > the UCMJ, so I'd guess that the Army would get first crack at him. At >> :> > least one of the wounded was a Texas law enforcement officer, so >> Texas >> :> > can get in on the act if it wants to. >> :> >> :> > Bud >> :> >> :> Nope. Strictly a Federal matter as it happened on a Federal reserve. >> :> I wonder why Texas Police were even on base? Military personal that are >> :> wanted by other then Federal authorities are usually delivered to the >> :> gate by Military Police. Also nonmilitary personal(Police) are required >> :> to check all weapons at the gate. Kudo's to that Female civilian >> officer >> :> that pumped 4 rounds into the killer and stopped further mayhem. I >> would >> :> guess the dead Police officer also got a shot or two in before being >> :> shot to death. Nancy Pelosi will more then likely work to ban any >> :> weapons on american soil after this. >> : >> :Considering his prior statements to various people about what he >> :thought of non-muslims, could this be considered a "hate crime". >> : >> :========================================================================== >> : >> :he murdered 13 people Dave. so drop[ your Faux news phoney outrage. >> :I know, you don't listen to Rush, its just great minds think alike. >> : but they don't have to add any extra crap. >> : >> :How typical of the rightwing that this is just seen as an opportunity to >> :score cheap political points. >> :
>> What? You mean you Lefty Loons NOW decide that 'hate crimes' >> prosecution is unnecessary because the acts involved are already >> illegal?
>> Wow, amazing how even the most purblind can sometimes find wisdom, >> isn't it?
> you won't find any posts from me advocating hate crimes, Fred.
Well, except in Northern Ireland...
-- William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
> Jack Linthicum wrote: > > On Nov 7, 3:19 am, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > >> La N wrote: > >>> If things had gone according to plan, about now he'd be lying in a hammock > >>> being spoonfed by 72 virgins next to a river of wine. > >> Do you seriously believe a psychiatrist who is also a major in the US > >> army is that unsophisticated?
> >> -- > >> William Black
> >> "Any number under six"
> >> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of > >> Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat > >> single handed with a quarterstaff.
> > He dressed in Muslim attire before going forward and yelled Allah > > Akbar before he started shooting. But on the other hand he bought a > > very expensive gun and gave away his belongings.
> I have news for you.
> 'Kurta pyjama' is not exclusively Muslim.
> -- > William Black
> "Any number under six"
> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of > Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat > single handed with a quarterstaff.
In this case it was, there is a mosque near where the picture was waken.
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:37:54 GMT, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> > wrote:
>>Anyway, it might not even be a fundamentalist Muslim thing. It could be >>that he is a psychiatrist who cracked under the stress of debriefing too >>many horror stories.
> A lot of head shrinkers are nuts without any provocation.
> Bud
Yeah,he "cracked under the stress",then calmly went out and asked his Imam for advice,then gave away his possessions over some period of time,then went to the base and began shooting.....
Yup,sure.
It seems that people are looking for any and every EXCUSE to NOT call this what it is;a terrorist attack. It disgusts me.
>> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:37:54 GMT, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> >> wrote:
>>> Anyway, it might not even be a fundamentalist Muslim thing. It >>> could be that he is a psychiatrist who cracked under the stress of >>> debriefing too many horror stories.
>> A lot of head shrinkers are nuts without any provocation.
>> Bud
> Yeah,he "cracked under the stress",then calmly went out and asked his > Imam for advice,then gave away his possessions over some period of > time,then went to the base and began shooting.....
> Yup,sure.
> It seems that people are looking for any and every EXCUSE to NOT call > this what it is;a terrorist attack. It disgusts me.
Maybe it *is*/*was* a "terrorist" attack. If so, I would think the clues were out there, and yet no intervention took place. Shame, shame, shame .... Refers to another observation: that the military is desperate for mental health professionals, they'll overlook ehem "minor" indiscretions ...
On Nov 7, 5:20 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> :>> What horse manure! Perhaps you'd care to explain to us just why > :>> "Obama has a hard job" is relevant to a nutball losing it at Fort > :>> Hood? > :>> > :> > :> Well, he has a job that would be impossible for you to do: he has to > :> act like he cares. > :> > :
> Usual stupid Linthicum remark. See why I don't bother with him?
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