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Koos Nolst Trenite  
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From: Koos Nolst Trenite <AmbassadorForMank...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:09:51 +0100
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 6:09 pm
Subject: Opposed to Peace: John Lennon, a Criminal Mind (stimulated by Yoko Ono) - {HRI 20091102-V2.1-t}
Opposed to Peace: John Lennon, a Criminal Mind, stimulated by Yoko Ono

                                                                     2 November 2009
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                                                                       on 4 Nov 2009)

'

Deceased Ex-Beatle John Lennon, OPPOSES the Definition of Peace.

        You did not know that, did you.

        The Definition of Peace: *(1)

        Sufficient identification of Criminal Minds, and sufficient
        constraint of Criminal impulses.

'

I mention John Lennon, because his is a very typical case of a
 Criminal Mind pretending very harmfully "to promote and want Peace,"

  and whom you have not looked through, but instead have supported

                IN DESTROYING PEACE

  while you are claiming that he is "Anti-War." *(1)

                        You (were made to) think so, by means of his
                        Drugging Life Energy:

        "It gave you so much feeling of 'wanting Peace'."

        And Paul McCartney, typically does not open his mouth about it,
        to you. Thereby he is violating the Definition of Friendship,
        because it is lacking in care for you, to NOT inform you.

                So I have to, once again, step in and inform you of very
                vital data for you, towards the goal of (see References,
                below) ACTUAL

                'Peace on Earth and Well-Being in Man.'

And deceased Ex-Beatle John Lennon, as so many do, also he does OPPOSE
 the Definition of Peace:

'

'

        In order to have Peace and to maintain Peace, you must define
        it, precisely.

The Definition of Peace: *(1)

        Sufficient identification of Criminal Minds, and sufficient
        constraint of Criminal impulses.

                That definition, is in harmony with the definition of
                the Nature Of War, as you can see.      *(2)

                So, I am not only restoring the proper, ACTUAL definition
                of war, *(2) but also the proper, ACTUAL definition of
                peace.  *(1)

'

'

The typical "Protester for Peace" is OPPOSING PEACE, and thus is
 INEVITABLY bringing about war.

        You do not want to face that, much less, that IT IS THE
        INTENTION of such "Peace demonstrators," TO HARM YOU.

        Harm you first by making you (wholly) Blind to harm, and
        then making sure, (that)

                NOBODY (MUST) SEE EVIL,

                then "we all live in peace."

        "When we DON'T protect or defend ourselves and each other from
        Criminal Minds, THEN 'we live all as Brothers, as one world
        shared by all,' in Peace."

                And when everybody is spiritually Drugged into Blindness,
                and made Stupid, then

                "there are no Criminal Minds on Earth,"

                and so "we all live in Peace."

'

'

There are however some hundred million Criminal Minds living on Earth,
 and the only thing THEY want, is war and destruction, deception and
 theft, and domination and torture, and mass murder - for THEM life
 has no value at all, other than the possibility to inflict Evil onto
 others, which provides Criminal Minds with great JOY,

                  while shouting, for instance, "Death to America."

                In fact they label any protection and defense against
                them, and any pointing out of Criminal Minds as "being
                Evil to people,"

                        while knowing about them IS of course a basic form
                        of protection against Criminal Minds.

                OF COURSE, they, being Criminal Minds, consider that
                information and any ability to detect them, "the biggest
                Evil that can be done to them," and thus "to people."

                        Criminal Minds have everything in REVERSE, also
                        their conscience is IN REVERSE.

'

'

That is the design of also the Criminal Mind of John Lennon, and of a
 good many others.

                The Criminal Mind and notorious philosopher Karl Marx, is
                a typical example of promoting such "peace."

'

        Often they are users of drugs - such as Michael Jackson, another
        pretender of "wanting to bring about peace" - using drugs in
        order not to feel the reality of Evil (individuals) existing,

        including not to feel that undesirable reality about themselves:

        "All people are brothers," and "Evil individuals do not exist"
        including themselves,

                as how they are, behind their mask,

        to not be felt as such BY THEMSELVES and by others.

"We are all brothers" - 'Alle Menschen werden Bruder' as Beethoven
 also said it and made people sing it, in German, in his ninth
 symphony.

'

'

They are the words and the concept of a Criminal Mind.

        You can sense that, as in the case of John Lennon, but you can
        also UNDERSTAND IT - rationally, as you call the ability to
        think - because

THEY VIOLATE THE DEFINITION OF PEACE.

'

The Definition of Peace is:

        Sufficient identification of Criminal Minds, and sufficient
        constraint of Criminal impulses.

And they very intentionally violate it, and they WANT it violated, as
 you can read in the Human Rights Issue 'Definition of Peace.' *(1)

'

        Ex-Beatles singer John Lennon's lyrics of his song 'Imagine,'
        shows him to be a Criminal Mind, but

        "famous people can not be also Criminal Minds," right??

        To observe that some ARE Criminal Minds, does violate your
        desire to remain as stupid as you have been made or allowed
        yourself to be made.

        "John Lennon is of the Beatles, and therefore he can not be a
        Criminal Mind."

'

But indeed the John Lennon song 'Imagine,' is an 'ANTI PEACE song.'

        And so many of you have been made too stupid to recognize it.
        So I have to write to you about it, to point at those who
        destroy Peace:

 You are DESTROYING Peace, for instance with the 'Imagine' lyrics and
 song:
'

                        Imagine there's no heaven
                        It's easy if you try
                        No hell below us
                        Above us only sky
                        Imagine all the people
                        Living for today...

                        Imagine there's no countries
                        It isn't hard to do
                        Nothing to kill or die for
                        And no religion too
                        Imagine all the people
                        Living life in peace...

                        You may say I'm a dreamer
                        But I'm not the only one
                        I hope someday you'll join us
                        And the world will be as one

                        Imagine no possessions
                        I wonder if you can
                        No need for greed or hunger
                        A brotherhood of man
                        Imagine all the people
                        Sharing all the world...

                        You may say I'm a dreamer
                        But I'm not the only one
                        I hope someday you'll join us
                        And the world will live as one.

        John Lennon's "Peace philosophy" in his 'Give Peace a Chance'
        lyrics, is not even organized, but is intended wholly to make
        you feel even more confused about Peace:

                'Let me tell you now
                Ev'rybody's talking about
                Revolution, Evolution, Mastication, Flagellation,
                        Regulations.
                Integrations, Meditations, United Nations, Congratulations
                All we are saying is give peace a chance
                All we are saying is give peace a chance

                Oh Let's stick to it
                Ev'rybody's talking about
                John and Yoko, Timmy Leary, Rosemary, Tommy smothers, Bob
                         Dylan,
                Tommy Cooper, Derek Taylor, Norman Mailer, Alan Ginsberg,
                         Hare Krishna,
                Hare Krishna
                All we are saying is give peace a chance
                All we are saying is give peace a chance'

Even Venezuela's Hugo Chavez could hardly make a more forcefully
 Insane and intentionally confusing statement "about Peace."

        Criminal Minds do have everything in reverse.

'

'

Thus the definitions based on what life IS, had to be brought back:

 Also, what the definition of Peace actually is - natively, as part of
 your soul;

        and it is my current job - the current step in my work (is) -
        to face all of life well enough, and to use my abilities
        well enough, in order to bring back those definitions, *(1)

                so, that you can use these again, which means,
                for you again to speak from your heart - or
                more precisely, from your soul - and

                to speak to the heart, or to the soul, of others.

'

Koos Nolst Trenite 'Cause Trinity'
human rights philosopher and poet

                                                          'Men of all nations came
                                                   to listen to Solomon's wisdom,
                                            sent by all the kings of the world,
                                                     who had heard of his wisdom.'

                                                                          1 Kings 4:34

'

See also:

        'The First Law Of Economics'    (FLE)
        {HRI-20031201-V3.7.3}
         (1 December 2003 - Version 3.7.3 on 8 Apr 2009)
http://groups.google.com/group/dk.politik/msg/38938bf40a290e1d

'

_________
Textnotes:

(a)     The definition of peace was REVERSED by Criminal Minds (who
        created Hinduism and later on Buddhism - where "peace" is made
        detached from life, and is "practiced" as detachment from life,
        and thereby)

        "peace" was (and is) "defined" by these Criminal Minds, as

                "being made to feel the ILLUSION, the Energy projected by
                others, or oneself creating the ILLUSION, the Energy, of
                feeling 'being at peace'."

        Criminal Minds have and WANT to have everything in reverse.
'

(b)     The words 'law' and 'police,' are DEFINED by 'protecting people
        FROM Crime' - by 'detecting and exposing Criminal Minds,'
        and by 'restraining Criminal impulses.'

(c)     Two examples of prominent Destructive Cowards, are the American
        singers Barbara Streisand and Neil Young, who produce intense
        Hate towards courage, and thus towards the actual care, that
        results from the courage to face and stop Evil.

        But their Hate is entirely SELF-serving, it is to "benefit"
        themselves, because it - the Hate Energy they create and spread,
        is supposed to destroy THEIR OWN awareness primarily,

        it is to make THEMSELVES not feel their OWN very intense
        cowardice and their own REFUSAL to face Criminal Minds,

        and they vehemently FIGHT anyone - for instance the mentioned
        American president, George W. Bush, who does CONSTANTLY remind
        them (and others) of their - Streisand's and Young's -
        life time(s) of the most despicable cowardice,

        but they do not sing about that, now, do they... nor do they
        campaign to expose, to oppose and to remedy cowardice.
'

_________
Footnotes:

(1)  'Definition of Peace'  (DOP)
      {HRI 20070520-V3.7.5-t}
       (20 May 2007 - Version 3.7.5 on 13 Oct 2009)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/777dadc9626883db
      {HRI 20070520-V3.7.4} (no tabs layout)
       (20 May 2007 - Version 3.7.4 on 5 June 2009)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.war.vietnam/msg/5ae1a4055a677ab0

(2)  'The Nature of War'
        {HRI 20051027-V1.8.1}
         (27 Oct 2005 - Version 1.8.1 on 4 May 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/71ca92e9e9d5e495 ...

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Eugene Griessel  
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From: Eugene Griessel <eug...@dynagen.co.za>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:03:37 +0200
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Subject: Re: Opposed to Peace: John Lennon, a Criminal Mind (stimulated by Yoko Ono) - {HRI 20091102-V2.1-t}
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:09:51 +0100, Koos Nolst Trenite

<AmbassadorForMank...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Opposed to Peace: John Lennon, a Criminal Mind, stimulated by Yoko Ono

I am the very model of a Newsgroup personality
I intersperse obscenity with tedious banality
Addresses I have plenty of, both genuine & ghosted too
On all the countless newsgroups that my drivel is cross-posted to

Your bandwidth I will fritter with my whining and my snivelling
And you're the one who pays the bill, downloading all my drivelling
My enemies are numerous, and no-one would be blaming you
For cracking my head open after I've been rudely flaming you
I hate to lose an argument, although I should be used to it
I wouldn't know a valid point if I was introduced to it
My learning is extensive but consists of mindless trivia
Designed to fan my ego, which is larger than Bolivia
The comments that I vomit forth, disguised as jest and drollery
Are really just an exercise in unremitting trollery
I say I'm frank and forthright, but that's merely lies and vanity

The gibberings of one who's at the limits of his sanity

If only I could get a life, as many people tell me to
If only you could find a circus freakshow you could sell me to
If I go off to Zanzibar to paint the local scenery
If I lose all my fingers in a mishap with machinery
If I survive to thirty, which is somewhat problematical
If what I post was more mature, or slightly more grammatical
If I could learn to spell a bit, and maybe even punctuate
Would I still be the loathsome and objectionable punk you hate?

But while I have this tiresome urge to prance around and show my face
It simply isn't safe for normal people here in Cyberspace
To stick me in Ol' Sparky and turn on the electricity
Would be a fitting punishment for my egocentricity
I always have the last word, so with uttermost finality
That's all from me, the model of a Newsgroup personality

(The only criminal mind here is Koos).

Eugene L Griessel

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   The other 10% takes the other 90% of the time.

          -  I post only from Sci.Military.Naval  -


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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 06:41:37 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opposed to Peace: John Lennon, a Criminal Mind (stimulated by Yoko Ono) - {HRI 20091102-V2.1-t}
On Nov 4, 9:03 am, Eugene Griessel <eug...@dynagen.co.za> wrote:

Brave-oh, brave-oh

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:41:17 -0500
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Subject: Re: Opposed to Peace: John Lennon, a Criminal Mind (stimulated by Yoko Ono) - {HRI 20091102-V2.1-t}
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:03:37 +0200, Eugene Griessel

You sir, now owe for a multitude of keyboards. If their owners
are each willing to stand you to a shot, as I am, you need never
pay for a drink again.

bz

Peter Skelton


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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:07:35 GMT
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Subject: Re: Opposed to Peace: John Lennon, a Criminal Mind (stimulated by Yoko Ono) - {HRI 20091102-V2.1-t}

LOL LOL LOL LOL !!!!

Gawd i lurv ya Genie .. :) :) :)

- nilita


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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:40:28 +0200
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Subject: Re: Opposed to Peace: John Lennon, a Criminal Mind (stimulated by Yoko Ono) - {HRI 20091102-V2.1-t}
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:41:17 -0500, Peter Skelton <skelt...@cogeco.ca>
wrote:

Please, please folks - I did not pen this superb piece.  It was posted
here many aeons ago, before the planet had quite cooled, when usenet
was still a flourishing business and the denizens described herein
were a minority.  I recently was going through my vast CD collection
(checking for CD-rot mainly - which has lost me a lot of valuable
data) and came across this.  I have a weird feeling that Bob posted it
(remember Bob?) originally.  A grub through Google groups might
unearth it!

Eugene L Griessel

   Don't worry about avoiding temptation--as you grow older,
   it starts avoiding you.

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Subject: Re: Opposed to Peace: John Lennon, a Criminal Mind (stimulated by Yoko Ono) - {HRI 20091102-V2.1-t}
Eugene Griessel wrote on Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:03:37 +0200:

> I am the very model of a Newsgroup personality

Bravo. I found myself mentally singing it.

--
Regards
Alex

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