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ironjustice  
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 More options Jul 24, 10:05 am
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From: ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:05:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 24 2008 10:05 am
Subject: Mold-ripened Food Rich In Fungal Iron Chelators
There's that iron .. again.

"Consumption of mold-ripened food rich in fungal iron chelators in
diets may lower the risk of cardiovascular diseases"

Fungal siderophores function as protective agents of LDL oxidation and
are promising anti-atherosclerotic metabolites in functional food.
Mol Nutr Food Res. 2008 Jul 21. [Epub ahead of print]
Pócsi I, Jeney V, Kertai P, Pócsi I, Emri T, Gyémánt G, Fésüs L, Balla
J, Balla G.
Department of Microbial Biotechnology and Cell Biology, Faculty of
Science and Technology, University of Debrecen, Debrecen, Hungary.

Iron-mediated oxidation of low-density lipoprotein has been implicated
in the pathogenesis of vascular disorders such as atherosclerosis.
The present investigations were performed to test whether hydrophobic
fungal siderophores - hexadentate trihydroxamates desferricoprogen,
desferrichrome, desferrirubin, and desferrichrysin - might suppress
heme-catalyzed LDL oxidation and the toxic effects of heme-treated LDL
on vascular endothelium. Indeed, two of these - desferricoprogen and
desferrichrome - markedly increased the resistance of LDL to heme-
catalyzed oxidation.
In similar dose-response fashion, these siderophores also inhibited
the generation of LDL products cytotoxic to human vascular
endothelium.
When iron-free fungal siderophores were added to LDL/heme oxidation
reactions, the product failed to induce heme oxygenase-1, a surrogate
marker for the noncytocidal effects of oxidized LDL (not in the case
of desferrichrysin).
Desferricoprogen also hindered the iron-mediated peroxidation of
lipids from human atherosclerotic soft plaques in vitro, and was taken
up in the gastrointestinal tract of rat.
The absorbed siderophore was accumulated in the liver and was secreted
in its iron-complexed form in the feces and urine.
The consumption of mold-ripened food products such as aged cheeses and
the introduction of functional foods and food additives rich in fungal
iron chelators in diets may lower the risk of cardiovascular diseases.

PMID: 18646004

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From: ironjustice <ironjust...@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 23:36:11 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Aug 3 2008 11:36 am
Subject: Re: Mold-ripened Food Rich In Fungal Iron Chelators
On Jul 23, 10:05 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Consumption of mold-ripened food <<

I suppose .. "looks good on em" .. would be appropriate .. ?

To an animal rights vegetarian .. activist .. ?

Since it IS the consumption of **meat** / your dead little .. bro ..
which would REQUIRE this  .. "consumption of mold-ripened food" .. ?

Meat allows iron to be absorbed at all times of iron status.

When we eat meat the body absorbs iron EVEN THOUGH we are NOW
**downregulating** the absorption of plant iron because we are 'full'.

Then the gas pours out since your tank is full and you have a horrible
fire which kills you.

Oxidation / fire.

If you know your .. alchemy.

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Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk


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From: ironjustice <ironjust...@lol.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 07:11:42 -0500
Local: Sun, Aug 3 2008 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: Mold-ripened Food Rich In Fungal Iron Chelators
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 01:36:11 -0500, ironjustice wrote
(in article
<0bbf3544-f40f-452a-80ef-daf551f05...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):

> Who loves ya.
> Tom

Tom

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From: "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 08:02:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Aug 3 2008 8:02 pm
Subject: Re: Mold-ripened Food Rich In Fungal Iron Chelators
On Aug 3, 5:11 am, ironjustice <ironjust...@lol.com> wrote: Tom <<

Looks like I have another .. nutbar .. following my posts ..

Meet ironjustice .. who obviously .. would have NOTHING to say ..
unless ..  **I** am .. here.

I .. define .. him ..

I .. am his reason .. for .. BEING ..

I wonder if that part .. sinks .. in ..

Heh .. heh ..

"Consumption of mold-ripened food rich in fungal iron chelators in
diets may lower the risk of cardiovascular diseases"

Fungal siderophores function as protective agents of LDL oxidation
and
are promising anti-atherosclerotic metabolites in functional food.
Mol Nutr Food Res. 2008 Jul 21. [Epub ahead of print]
Pócsi I, Jeney V, Kertai P, Pócsi I, Emri T, Gyémánt G, Fésüs L,
Balla
J, Balla G.
Department of Microbial Biotechnology and Cell Biology, Faculty of
Science and Technology, University of Debrecen, Debrecen, Hungary.

Iron-mediated oxidation of low-density lipoprotein has been
implicated
in the pathogenesis of vascular disorders such as atherosclerosis.
The present investigations were performed to test whether hydrophobic
fungal siderophores - hexadentate trihydroxamates desferricoprogen,
desferrichrome, desferrirubin, and desferrichrysin - might suppress
heme-catalyzed LDL oxidation and the toxic effects of heme-treated
LDL
on vascular endothelium. Indeed, two of these - desferricoprogen and
desferrichrome - markedly increased the resistance of LDL to heme-
catalyzed oxidation.
In similar dose-response fashion, these siderophores also inhibited
the generation of LDL products cytotoxic to human vascular
endothelium.
When iron-free fungal siderophores were added to LDL/heme oxidation
reactions, the product failed to induce heme oxygenase-1, a surrogate
marker for the noncytocidal effects of oxidized LDL (not in the case
of desferrichrysin).
Desferricoprogen also hindered the iron-mediated peroxidation of
lipids from human atherosclerotic soft plaques in vitro, and was
taken
up in the gastrointestinal tract of rat.
The absorbed siderophore was accumulated in the liver and was
secreted
in its iron-complexed form in the feces and urine.
The consumption of mold-ripened food products such as aged cheeses
and
the introduction of functional foods and food additives rich in
fungal
iron chelators in diets may lower the risk of cardiovascular
diseases.

PMID: 18646004

Who loves ya.
Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk


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From: ironjustice <ironjust...@lol.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:24:46 -0500
Local: Sun, Aug 3 2008 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: Mold-ripened Food Rich In Fungal Iron Chelators
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:02:49 -0500, ironjust...@aol.com wrote
(in article
<9fcdf52c-50df-4f36-b677-633371672...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):

> On Aug 3, 5:11 am, ironjustice <ironjust...@lol.com> wrote: Tom <<

> Looks like I have another .. nutbar .. following my posts ..

> Meet ironjustice .. who obviously .. would have NOTHING to say ..
> unless ..  **I** am .. here.

> I .. define .. him ..

> I .. am his reason .. for .. BEING ..

> I wonder if that part .. sinks .. in ..

> Heh .. heh ..

I am you and you are the other.

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From: "Juba" <j...@XmasterjubaX.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:20:10 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 4 2008 6:20 am
Subject: The Tom Hennessy Kook Faq
ironjust...@aol.com <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote in message:

9fcdf52c-50df-4f36-b677-633371672...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,

> On Aug 3, 5:11 am, ironjustice <ironjust...@lol.com> wrote: Tom <<

> Looks like I have another .. nutbar .. following my posts ..

> Meet ironjustice .. who obviously .. would have NOTHING to say ..
> unless ..  **I** am .. here.

> I .. define .. him ..

> I .. am his reason .. for .. BEING ..

> I wonder if that part .. sinks .. in ..

> Heh .. heh ..

Tom Hennessy, also known as ironjustice, watchman, and several other
past identities, is what might be called a 'single issue' fanatic. Be
very wary of this persistent newsgroup abuser. He has been trolling many
support newsgroups for several years. Tom Hennessy believes that excess
iron is the cause of all diseases. When challenged, Tom often becomes
verbally abusive including scatological and obscene language. He will
not leave people with serious diseases like multiple sclerosis, heart
disease, cancer and AIDS alone. He feels justified in cross-posting his
rants to multiple support groups and becomes very rude and irrational if
challenged.

Read more at:

http://kook.us/tom-hennessy.htm

This is just a first draft that I compiled from newsgroup posts by and
about Tom Hennessy. More will be added to it over time.

--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com


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From: "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:51:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Aug 4 2008 7:51 am
Subject: Juba Does What He Does Best
On Aug 3, 6:20 pm, "Juba" <j...@XmasterjubaX.com> wrote: snip <<

Take your .. faq .. and faq .. off .. you little btch ..

Who loves ya.
Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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From: "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:52:15 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Aug 4 2008 7:52 am
Subject: Re: Mold-ripened Food Rich In Fungal Iron Chelators
There's that iron .. again.

"Consumption of mold-ripened food rich in fungal iron chelators in
diets may lower the risk of cardiovascular diseases"

Fungal siderophores function as protective agents of LDL oxidation
and
are promising anti-atherosclerotic metabolites in functional food.
Mol Nutr Food Res. 2008 Jul 21. [Epub ahead of print]
Pócsi I, Jeney V, Kertai P, Pócsi I, Emri T, Gyémánt G, Fésüs L,
Balla
J, Balla G.
Department of Microbial Biotechnology and Cell Biology, Faculty of
Science and Technology, University of Debrecen, Debrecen, Hungary.

Iron-mediated oxidation of low-density lipoprotein has been
implicated
in the pathogenesis of vascular disorders such as atherosclerosis.
The present investigations were performed to test whether hydrophobic
fungal siderophores - hexadentate trihydroxamates desferricoprogen,
desferrichrome, desferrirubin, and desferrichrysin - might suppress
heme-catalyzed LDL oxidation and the toxic effects of heme-treated
LDL
on vascular endothelium. Indeed, two of these - desferricoprogen and
desferrichrome - markedly increased the resistance of LDL to heme-
catalyzed oxidation.
In similar dose-response fashion, these siderophores also inhibited
the generation of LDL products cytotoxic to human vascular
endothelium.
When iron-free fungal siderophores were added to LDL/heme oxidation
reactions, the product failed to induce heme oxygenase-1, a surrogate
marker for the noncytocidal effects of oxidized LDL (not in the case
of desferrichrysin).
Desferricoprogen also hindered the iron-mediated peroxidation of
lipids from human atherosclerotic soft plaques in vitro, and was
taken
up in the gastrointestinal tract of rat.
The absorbed siderophore was accumulated in the liver and was
secreted
in its iron-complexed form in the feces and urine.
The consumption of mold-ripened food products such as aged cheeses
and
the introduction of functional foods and food additives rich in
fungal
iron chelators in diets may lower the risk of cardiovascular
diseases.

PMID: 18646004

Who loves ya.
Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk


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From: "Juba" <j...@XmasterjubaX.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:34:19 -0700
Local: Tues, Aug 5 2008 1:34 am
Subject: Re: The Tom Hennessy Kook Faq
ironjust...@aol.com <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote in message:

52be1c52-0eeb-429b-b39b-87bad04d2...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com,

> Take your .. faq .. and faq .. off .. you little btch ..

Do I detect a bit of hostility there?   :-)

I thought you liked the Kook Faq, Tommy. You've been posting the url
quite a bit lately, so you must believe that it is a reliable source of
information.

Come on now. Be honest with yourself. You know you've earned this. Might
as well wear it as a badge of honor.

Or you can stop being such a dick. It's no sin to be a little obsessed
with something you think is important, but you have been overdoing it
and making a nuisance of yourself for many years now. All of this
crossposting and hostility from you is not effective in educating the
public about your favorite issue. All you do is piss people off. Why
don't you get your web site going again? Start a blog? Write a book? Do
something that isn't quite so lame.

--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com

The Tom Hennessy Kook Faq
http://kook.us/tom-hennessy.htm


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From: ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:53:11 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 5 2008 2:53 am
Subject: Juba da btch
On Aug 4, 1:34 pm, "Juba" <j...@XmasterjubaX.com> wrote: snip <<

Take your .. faq .. and faq .. off .. you little btch ..

You got a problem with English .. you little .. btch ..

Do ya .. ?

You ARE a .. little .. btch ..

If you think making faqs MAKES you ANY .. less .. a btch .. you are
wrong ..

They make you MORE of a btch there .. buddy ..

It has been pointed OUT by alot of people before .. me .. and your
ACTIONS have shown you to be A .. little .. btch ..

Live with it .. because you have BEEN a little btch ever since I've
been here .. and that is yearrrrs ..

Whining .. little .. btch ..

No changing yourself .. now .. is there .. btch ..

Sooo .. listen to me ..

I don't read your sht .. anymore than I read any sht from clowns ,
dckhds , dildos .. lefties , loonies OR .. other .. btches ..

Sooo .. btch .. like I said ..

Faq .. yourself ..

Who loves ya.
Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh

Man Is A He