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  <title type="text">sci.math Google Group</title>
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  Mathematical discussions and pursuits.
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  <updated>2009-11-22T02:48:44Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>spudnik</name>
  <email>space...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T02:48:44Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/339439b3a3557c0f/16196dc81efa7014?show_docid=16196dc81efa7014</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/339439b3a3557c0f/16196dc81efa7014?show_docid=16196dc81efa7014"/>
  <title type="text">Re: The Impotence Of Mathematics</title>
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  dood said, Numbertheory; &lt;br&gt; if you don&#39;t want to know that, you don&#39;t want to know any thing &lt;br&gt; in science, vis-a-vu *mathematica* -- &lt;br&gt; not the God-am programme of the Wolframites; &lt;br&gt; see l&#39;Ouvre, below! &lt;br&gt; thus: &lt;br&gt; Lord Berty was quite an evil pacifist (see larouchepub.com), but &lt;br&gt; he also made me realize that &amp;quot;silly&amp;quot; must be derived from syllogism;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>John Jones</name>
  <email>jonescard...@btinternet.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T02:38:43Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/d43db0c4b6c00288/2282282b82add066?show_docid=2282282b82add066</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/d43db0c4b6c00288/2282282b82add066?show_docid=2282282b82add066"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Radioactive decay and the myth of randomness</title>
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  I&#39;ve lost the whole plot here. I can&#39;t find who said what or anything.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Mahipal7638</name>
  <email>mahipal7...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T02:37:24Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/c85c9b2e3ff0eaca/863a57b5f9c743c2?show_docid=863a57b5f9c743c2</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/c85c9b2e3ff0eaca/863a57b5f9c743c2?show_docid=863a57b5f9c743c2"/>
  <title type="text">Re: The accuracy of the Calculus</title>
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  The accuracy, independent of any degree of precision, of Calculus is &lt;br&gt; not questionable from even before Liebniz&amp;amp;|Newton, without the need of &lt;br&gt; any -- advanced or otherwise -- computational limitations, discovered &lt;br&gt; it. &lt;br&gt; Enjo(y)...
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>spudnik</name>
  <email>space...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T02:37:07Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/e0eecb89e6c752bc/7c069064792e5c08?show_docid=7c069064792e5c08</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/e0eecb89e6c752bc/7c069064792e5c08?show_docid=7c069064792e5c08"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Gravity, relativity, and the nature of the hypothesis</title>
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  Lord Berty was quite an evil pacifist (see larouchepub.com), but &lt;br&gt; he also made me realize that &amp;quot;silly&amp;quot; must be derived from syllogism; &lt;br&gt; apparently, he was completely fried by Godel&#39;s thing, although &lt;br&gt; Whitehead would not have been. &lt;br&gt; thus: &lt;br&gt; I have always meant to study difference equations, alas. anyway, &lt;br&gt; I never googol anything that I am dyscussing online,
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>John Jones</name>
  <email>jonescard...@btinternet.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T02:34:32Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/d43db0c4b6c00288/c4848faf274f32f9?show_docid=c4848faf274f32f9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/d43db0c4b6c00288/c4848faf274f32f9?show_docid=c4848faf274f32f9"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Radioactive decay and the myth of randomness</title>
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  But it&#39;s another thing to say that a meaning has been given a &lt;br&gt; non-standard interpretation.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>John Jones</name>
  <email>jonescard...@btinternet.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T02:31:22Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/d43db0c4b6c00288/d59cdeb0ffa21afb?show_docid=d59cdeb0ffa21afb</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/d43db0c4b6c00288/d59cdeb0ffa21afb?show_docid=d59cdeb0ffa21afb"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Radioactive decay and the myth of randomness</title>
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  Those are different signs. We are talking about using the smae sign to &lt;br&gt; mean something else. which is an impossibility. you can&#39;t use the &amp;quot;same&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; sign in a non-standard way!
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>spudnik</name>
  <email>space...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T02:30:40Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/c85c9b2e3ff0eaca/d357d56dc5cf6bc4?show_docid=d357d56dc5cf6bc4</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/c85c9b2e3ff0eaca/d357d56dc5cf6bc4?show_docid=d357d56dc5cf6bc4"/>
  <title type="text">Re: The accuracy of the Calculus</title>
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  in other words, &lt;br&gt; the engineers didn&#39;t get stuck on Stevin&#39;s &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; odometer. &lt;br&gt; --l&#39;Ouvre: &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.wlym.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Stop the second cap &amp;amp; trade rip-off; &lt;br&gt; install a tariff on imported oil -- dumb-*** &amp;quot;republicans R Them!&amp;quot;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>John Jones</name>
  <email>jonescard...@btinternet.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T02:28:52Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/d43db0c4b6c00288/b32c8e54ce0eb313?show_docid=b32c8e54ce0eb313</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/d43db0c4b6c00288/b32c8e54ce0eb313?show_docid=b32c8e54ce0eb313"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Radioactive decay and the myth of randomness</title>
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  The whole point of the concept of &#39;non-standard meanings&#39; is that their &lt;br&gt; signs can be used in two ways - 1) non-meaningfully, and 2) in the case &lt;br&gt; of mathematics, as an ellipsis for syntactical, meaning-void, procedures.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>spudnik</name>
  <email>space...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T02:26:37Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/c85c9b2e3ff0eaca/8822b30af471a477?show_docid=8822b30af471a477</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/c85c9b2e3ff0eaca/8822b30af471a477?show_docid=8822b30af471a477"/>
  <title type="text">Re: The accuracy of the Calculus</title>
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  I have always meant to study difference equatoipns, alas. anyway, &lt;br&gt; I never googol anything that I am dyscussing online, &lt;br&gt; particualry when using the googol front-end for Usenet &lt;br&gt; at some public terminal. I recently saw who owned altavista.com, but &lt;br&gt; I forgot, though I&#39;ve used it, when needed. &lt;br&gt; thus: &lt;br&gt; the original poster had mentioned 754 and 854,
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Casey Hawthorne</name>
  <email>caseyhhammer_t...@istar.ca</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T02:25:50Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/a1cffd71c99a2dd0/9ca7c8b7aa9bffe7?show_docid=9ca7c8b7aa9bffe7</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/a1cffd71c99a2dd0/9ca7c8b7aa9bffe7?show_docid=9ca7c8b7aa9bffe7"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Math/CompSci Interview Question - Thoughts?</title>
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  These questions/puzzles are to see how you approach the problem, but &lt;br&gt; if you&#39;ve seen the puzzle before it is a useless practice.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Bill Dubuque</name>
  <email>w...@nestle.csail.mit.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T02:23:53Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/a1cffd71c99a2dd0/bb4cebf48136e97c?show_docid=bb4cebf48136e97c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/a1cffd71c99a2dd0/bb4cebf48136e97c?show_docid=bb4cebf48136e97c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Math/CompSci Interview Question - Thoughts?</title>
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  I&#39;ll be happy to elaborate if you say what isn&#39;t clear to you. &lt;br&gt; No, I hadn&#39;t yet seen Woeginger&#39;s post when I posted that. Note &lt;br&gt; that what one finds &amp;quot;more lucid&amp;quot; may depend on one&#39;s background. &lt;br&gt; A computer scientist might find W&#39;s post more lucid, whereas a &lt;br&gt; mathematician may find the above more to the essence of the matter,
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>rpg16</name>
  <email>roupam.gh...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T02:23:17Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/a508bd914ff6798d/f9dc816d6ef8f79c?show_docid=f9dc816d6ef8f79c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/a508bd914ff6798d/f9dc816d6ef8f79c?show_docid=f9dc816d6ef8f79c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: I found this interesting stuff with Riemann&#39;s ZF</title>
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  yea... i think you are right... &lt;br&gt; for the typo errors... i am sorry i didnt notice i wrote these two at &lt;br&gt; the same time, 0 &amp;lt; n &amp;lt; 1 and n belongs to N... shit!!! &lt;br&gt; i actually meant n != 1 n &amp;gt; 0... &lt;br&gt; in fact i also found some errors... I corrected those and am getting &lt;br&gt; the following formula... &lt;br&gt; RZF(n) = n/(n-1) - lim a -&amp;gt; oo ( (1/a) integral _1 ^oo (frac(a/x^(1/
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>KY</name>
  <email>wkfkh...@yahoo.co.jp</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T02:15:36Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/259e73ffae9b6b31/6755e7b891f422c7?show_docid=6755e7b891f422c7</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/259e73ffae9b6b31/6755e7b891f422c7?show_docid=6755e7b891f422c7"/>
  <title type="text">Re: f[z,k]=10*z^6 + (-17 - 5*Sqrt[5])*z^5 + (31 + 11*Sqrt[5])*z^4 + k*z^3 +..</title>
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  where k is a real number.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>KY</name>
  <email>wkfkh...@yahoo.co.jp</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T02:14:44Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/259e73ffae9b6b31/99c54153b9e4c82d?show_docid=99c54153b9e4c82d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/259e73ffae9b6b31/99c54153b9e4c82d?show_docid=99c54153b9e4c82d"/>
  <title type="text">f[z,k]=10*z^6 + (-17 - 5*Sqrt[5])*z^5 + (31 + 11*Sqrt[5])*z^4 + k*z^3 +..</title>
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  f[z,k]=10*z^6 + (-17 - 5*Sqrt[5])*z^5 + &lt;br&gt; (31 + 11*Sqrt[5])*z^4 + &lt;br&gt; k*z^3 + &lt;br&gt; (31 + 11*Sqrt[5])*z^2 + &lt;br&gt; (-17 - 5*Sqrt[5])*z + 10 &lt;br&gt; where K is a real number. &lt;br&gt; Show that all roots zj of f[z,k]=0 lie on the unit circle &lt;br&gt; the complex plane if and only if ____________. &lt;br&gt; (condition of k)
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>zzbunker@netscape.net</name>
  <email>zzbun...@netscape.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T02:19:47Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/c85c9b2e3ff0eaca/fdad7a6b39f958cd?show_docid=fdad7a6b39f958cd</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/sci.math/browse_frm/thread/c85c9b2e3ff0eaca/fdad7a6b39f958cd?show_docid=fdad7a6b39f958cd"/>
  <title type="text">Re: The accuracy of the Calculus</title>
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  Well, that&#39;s mostly because Physics cranks are about &lt;br&gt; the only people who have ever proclaimed the real number systems &lt;br&gt; the unique exemplar of exactness. &lt;br&gt; The educable people, some time started working on DSP, &lt;br&gt; rather than whip antennas. And today they have HDTV, &lt;br&gt; Home Broadband, Laser Disks, mp3, mpeg, Blue Ray,
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