On Nov 5, 4:51 pm, John Jones <jonescard...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Charlie-Boo wrote: > > I am thinking of two things. Can you guess what either is?
> According to Wittgenstein (Tractatus), statements of the sort "there are > two objects" or "7 is a number" are nonsensical.
They seem ok in Mathematics.
> > You can ask as many questions as you want and I will (truthfully) > > answer all that I can.
> > They don’t even have to be yes/no (finite multiple choice) questions.
> > You just can’t ask, “What are you thinking about?”!
> > C-B
> Objects are given through their presentation, or through a presentation > of their symbol.
> That is, you are asking us to consider the possibility of a hidden > presentation. I don't think that's on at all.
You could have asked, "What are you thinking of?" if I hadn't added the extra condition prohibiting it, so there are solutions. Just asking if there are other solutions than the one that I ruled out.
Charlie-Boo wrote: > On Nov 5, 4:51 pm, John Jones <jonescard...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>Charlie-Boo wrote:
>>>I am thinking of two things. Can you guess what either is?
>>According to Wittgenstein (Tractatus), statements of the sort "there are >>two objects" or "7 is a number" are nonsensical.
> They seem ok in Mathematics.
>>>You can ask as many questions as you want and I will (truthfully) >>>answer all that I can.
>>>They don’t even have to be yes/no (finite multiple choice) questions.
>>>You just can’t ask, “What are you thinking about?”!
>>>C-B
>>Objects are given through their presentation, or through a presentation >>of their symbol.
>>That is, you are asking us to consider the possibility of a hidden >>presentation. I don't think that's on at all.
> You could have asked, "What are you thinking of?" if I hadn't added > the extra condition prohibiting it, so there are solutions. Just > asking if there are other solutions than the one that I ruled out.
Ah. A game different from the one I thought you were playing.
If I were permitted to ask "What are you thinking of?" and did, and you answered honestly, what would you answer?
Charlie-Boo wrote: > On Nov 5, 4:51 pm, John Jones <jonescard...@btinternet.com> wrote: >> Charlie-Boo wrote: >>> I am thinking of two things. Can you guess what either is? >> According to Wittgenstein (Tractatus), statements of the sort "there are >> two objects" or "7 is a number" are nonsensical.
> They seem ok in Mathematics.
>>> You can ask as many questions as you want and I will (truthfully) >>> answer all that I can. >>> They don’t even have to be yes/no (finite multiple choice) questions. >>> You just can’t ask, “What are you thinking about?”! >>> C-B >> Objects are given through their presentation, or through a presentation >> of their symbol.
>> That is, you are asking us to consider the possibility of a hidden >> presentation. I don't think that's on at all.
> You could have asked, "What are you thinking of?"
Yes. But there is no framework for the objects that you want to present. So there is no possibility of even asking "what are you 'thinking' of".
> if I hadn't added > the extra condition prohibiting it, so there are solutions. Just > asking if there are other solutions than the one that I ruled out.
John Jones wrote: > Charlie-Boo wrote: >> On Nov 5, 4:51 pm, John Jones <jonescard...@btinternet.com> wrote: >>> Charlie-Boo wrote: >>>> I am thinking of two things. Can you guess what either is? >>> According to Wittgenstein (Tractatus), statements of the sort "there are >>> two objects" or "7 is a number" are nonsensical.
>> They seem ok in Mathematics.
>>>> You can ask as many questions as you want and I will (truthfully) >>>> answer all that I can. >>>> They don’t even have to be yes/no (finite multiple choice) questions. >>>> You just can’t ask, “What are you thinking about?”! >>>> C-B >>> Objects are given through their presentation, or through a presentation >>> of their symbol.
>>> That is, you are asking us to consider the possibility of a hidden >>> presentation. I don't think that's on at all.
>> You could have asked, "What are you thinking of?"
> Yes. But there is no framework for the objects that you want to present. > So there is no possibility of even asking "what are you 'thinking' of".
>> if I hadn't added >> the extra condition prohibiting it, so there are solutions. Just >> asking if there are other solutions than the one that I ruled out.
>> C-B
> Say it again please if you would.
My error. I meant to say "But there is no framework for the objects that you want to present. So there is no possibility of even asking "what 'thing' are you thinking of.", rather than say, as I did, "But there is no framework for the objects that you want to present. So there is no possibility of even asking "what are you 'thinking' of."
On Nov 5, 9:52 am, Charlie-Boo <shymath...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am thinking of two things. Can you guess what either is?
> You can ask as many questions as you want and I will (truthfully) > answer all that I can.
> They don’t even have to be yes/no (finite multiple choice) questions.
> You just can’t ask, “What are you thinking about?”!
> C-B
I am having a problem dealing with your thoughts - you see your are thinking at the rate of about 1,000 words per minute - and I'm having trouble deciphering which two specific things to extract from these thoughts.
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