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jordo  
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 More options Jul 25 2008, 5:00 am
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair
From: jordo <no...@email.address>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:03 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 25 2008 5:00 am
Subject: HDMI problem on RP JVC
I have a JVC rear projection tv that I bought second hand a little over a
year ago.  It works fine except for the HDMI input.  When I plug it into my
cable box and switch to the digital input, it can't detect anything (and
says it's gonna turn off in 9 minutes if nothing is connected before then
:)).  However, if I plug in my computer via a dvi/hdmi cable, the tv still
doesn't detect a connection, but the computer recognizes the tv for the
model number that it is.  There is no setting in the tv that can affect the
input, from what I can find (and I went over all the menus multiple times).

Any ideas on what might be causing this?  If it's an electrical problem, is
it worth my time to get an electronic technician to fix it?

Jordan


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Dave Plowman (News)  
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 More options Jul 25 2008, 11:48 am
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From: "Dave Plowman (News)" <d...@davenoise.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:48:08 +0100
Local: Fri, Jul 25 2008 11:48 am
Subject: Re: HDMI problem on RP JVC
In article <7I8ik.1480$nu6.909@edtnps83>,
   jordo <no...@email.address> wrote:

> I have a JVC rear projection tv that I bought second hand a little over
> a year ago.  It works fine except for the HDMI input.  When I plug it
> into my cable box and switch to the digital input, it can't detect
> anything (and says it's gonna turn off in 9 minutes if nothing is
> connected before then
> :)).  However, if I plug in my computer via a dvi/hdmi cable, the tv
> :still
> doesn't detect a connection, but the computer recognizes the tv for the
> model number that it is.  There is no setting in the tv that can affect
> the input, from what I can find (and I went over all the menus multiple
> times).
> Any ideas on what might be causing this?  If it's an electrical problem,
> is it worth my time to get an electronic technician to fix it?

Dunno if it's any help, but my Sagem DLP detects any of the many inputs
coming alive and switches out of standby - except the digital one which in
this case is a DVI type.

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jordo  
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 More options Jul 25 2008, 4:24 pm
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From: jordo <no...@email.address>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:24:23 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 25 2008 4:24 pm
Subject: Re: HDMI problem on RP JVC

I've checked all of my inputs while the HDMI is plugged in, but it
doesn't show up anywhere.  I was reading on some forums that the HDMI
can be disabled by various things and that it can be re-enabled by doing
a "system" check in the service menu (and it gives the steps to do
that).  However, I cannot find the steps to get INTO the service menu!

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Dave Plowman (News)  
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 More options Jul 25 2008, 6:05 pm
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From: "Dave Plowman (News)" <d...@davenoise.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:05:30 +0100
Local: Fri, Jul 25 2008 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: HDMI problem on RP JVC
In article <HJiik.1560$%b7.1345@edtnps82>,
   jordo <no...@email.address> wrote:

> I've checked all of my inputs while the HDMI is plugged in, but it
> doesn't show up anywhere.  I was reading on some forums that the HDMI
> can be disabled by various things and that it can be re-enabled by doing
> a "system" check in the service menu (and it gives the steps to do
> that).  However, I cannot find the steps to get INTO the service menu!

Wonder if it's tied in to a component input which could be either
component or RGB? My sat receiver is like that. Select RGB and you loose
the upscaling, etc.

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Andy Cuffe  
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 More options Jul 25 2008, 9:52 pm
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From: Andy Cuffe <acu...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:52:25 -0500
Local: Fri, Jul 25 2008 9:52 pm
Subject: Re: HDMI problem on RP JVC

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:03 GMT, jordo <no...@email.address> wrote:
>I have a JVC rear projection tv that I bought second hand a little over a
>year ago.  It works fine except for the HDMI input.  When I plug it into my
>cable box and switch to the digital input, it can't detect anything (and
>says it's gonna turn off in 9 minutes if nothing is connected before then
>:)).  However, if I plug in my computer via a dvi/hdmi cable, the tv still
>doesn't detect a connection, but the computer recognizes the tv for the
>model number that it is.  There is no setting in the tv that can affect the
>input, from what I can find (and I went over all the menus multiple times).

>Any ideas on what might be causing this?  If it's an electrical problem, is
>it worth my time to get an electronic technician to fix it?

>Jordan

Has the TV ever been serviced?  I've heard that some Pioneer TVs are
booby trapped so that if the set it plugged in with the back cover
removed, it disables the HDMI input.  They are worried that you might
be trying to steal Hollywood movies.
Andy Cuffe

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Andy Cuffe  
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 More options Jul 25 2008, 9:53 pm
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From: Andy Cuffe <acu...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:53:39 -0500
Local: Fri, Jul 25 2008 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: HDMI problem on RP JVC
I said Pioneer, but I meant to say JVC.  Both companies have made
booby trapped sets.
Andy Cuffe

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 More options Jul 25 2008, 11:40 pm
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From: jordo <no...@email.address>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:40:09 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 25 2008 11:40 pm
Subject: Re: HDMI problem on RP JVC
Andy Cuffe wrote:
> I said Pioneer, but I meant to say JVC.  Both companies have made
> booby trapped sets.
> Andy Cuffe

> acu...@gmail.com

Yeah, I read about that happening with my system.  I don't know that
it's been serviced before since I got it second-hand.  I'm thinking that
might be the case and can reset it, but only if I can get into the
"service menu", which I can't get into because I have no idea how to. :)
  I've looked online to try to find out how, but no luck so far. :S

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 More options Jul 26 2008, 3:02 am
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From: "Curtis Brown" <pr...@stripperweb.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:02:46 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 26 2008 3:02 am
Subject: Re: HDMI problem on RP JVC

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No stupid. If that was the case then the T.V. would say "Incompatible Input
Signal" or some shit like that.

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JANA  
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 More options Jul 26 2008, 11:00 am
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From: "JANA" <j...@NOSPAMca.inter.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:00:16 -0400
Local: Sat, Jul 26 2008 11:00 am
Subject: Re: HDMI problem on RP JVC
For whatever you are feeding to the HDMI port on your projection TV set,
make sure that its resolution setting is within the range of the set.  If it
is out of range, the set will act as if there was no response.

I have also seen a failed HDMI port on some equipment react in a similar way
that you are describing. But, first investigate properly before coming to
any conclusions.

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"jordo" <no...@email.address> wrote in message

news:7I8ik.1480$nu6.909@edtnps83...
I have a JVC rear projection tv that I bought second hand a little over a
year ago.  It works fine except for the HDMI input.  When I plug it into my
cable box and switch to the digital input, it can't detect anything (and
says it's gonna turn off in 9 minutes if nothing is connected before then
:)).  However, if I plug in my computer via a dvi/hdmi cable, the tv still
doesn't detect a connection, but the computer recognizes the tv for the
model number that it is.  There is no setting in the tv that can affect the
input, from what I can find (and I went over all the menus multiple times).

Any ideas on what might be causing this?  If it's an electrical problem, is
it worth my time to get an electronic technician to fix it?

Jordan


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Franc Zabkar  
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 More options Jul 27 2008, 5:35 am
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From: Franc Zabkar <fzab...@iinternode.on.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:35:00 +1000
Subject: Re: HDMI problem on RP JVC
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:03 GMT, jordo <no...@email.address> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>I have a JVC rear projection tv that I bought second hand a little over a
>year ago.  It works fine except for the HDMI input.  When I plug it into my
>cable box and switch to the digital input, it can't detect anything (and
>says it's gonna turn off in 9 minutes if nothing is connected before then
>:)).  However, if I plug in my computer via a dvi/hdmi cable, the tv still
>doesn't detect a connection, but the computer recognizes the tv for the
>model number that it is.

To recognise the TV, the computer only needs to be able to read the
TV's EDID EEPROM via the DDC pins in the cable (pins 6,7,14,15):

 http://pinouts.ru/VideoCables/hdmi_dvi_cable_pinout.shtml

I have managed to read a powered-down monitor's EDID EEPROM using my
device programmer. I made a VGA DB15-to-DIP8 adapter cable and told
the programmer that it was connected to an Atmel AT24C21 serial EEPROM
which has a "DDC1/ DDC2 Interface Compliant for Monitor
Identification".

You can find the EDID in the registry at the following key:

 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR

If you export that key to a .reg file, you will see the EDID EEPROM
data. Analysing the EDID will tell you what scan rates the TV
supports. FWIW, if you post your EDID here, I may be able to analyse
the data for you.

BTW, if you want someone to help you, it would help them if you would
indicate the TV's model number.

- Franc Zabkar
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 More options Jul 27 2008, 5:55 am
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From: jordo <no...@email.address>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:55:44 GMT
Local: Sun, Jul 27 2008 5:55 am
Subject: Re: HDMI problem on RP JVC

Thanks for the info, Franc.  I'll hook up the computer again to the tv
to get the registry info for you.  The TV is a JVC AV8P575.

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 More options Jul 27 2008, 8:19 am
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Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:19:54 +1000