Google Groups Home
Help | Sign in
non magnetic coax
There are currently too many topics in this group that display first. To make this topic appear first, remove this option from another topic.
There was an error processing your request. Please try again.
flag
  25 messages - Collapse all
The group you are posting to is a Usenet group. Messages posted to this group will make your email address visible to anyone on the Internet.
Your reply message has not been sent.
Your post was successful
 
From:
To:
Cc:
Followup To:
Add Cc | Add Followup-to | Edit Subject
Subject:
Validation:
For verification purposes please type the characters you see in the picture below or the numbers you hear by clicking the accessibility icon. Listen and type the numbers you hear
 
Daniel  
View profile
 More options Oct 7 2008, 1:21 am
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
From: Daniel <inva...@invalid.invalid>
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:21:15 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 7 2008 1:21 am
Subject: non magnetic coax
Hello,

has anybody a source of non-magnetic RG174, RG178 or similar coaxial cable?

Daniel


    Reply to author    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Rich Grise  
View profile
 More options Oct 7 2008, 3:20 am
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
From: Rich Grise <r...@example.net>
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:20:36 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 7 2008 3:20 am
Subject: Re: non magnetic coax
On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:21:15 -0400, Daniel wrote:

> has anybody a source of non-magnetic RG174, RG178 or similar coaxial cable?

This doesn't make any sense. There is nothing magnetic about coax, unless
it's in a coil creating a magnetic field, which isn't the coax's fault.

Hope This Helps!
Rich


    Reply to author    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
RFI-EMI-GUY  
View profile
 More options Oct 7 2008, 3:56 am
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
From: RFI-EMI-GUY <Rhyol...@NETTALLY.COM>
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:56:01 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 7 2008 3:56 am
Subject: Re: non magnetic coax

Rich Grise wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:21:15 -0400, Daniel wrote:
>> has anybody a source of non-magnetic RG174, RG178 or similar coaxial cable?

> This doesn't make any sense. There is nothing magnetic about coax, unless
> it's in a coil creating a magnetic field, which isn't the coax's fault.

> Hope This Helps!
> Rich

I think RG142 has a silver plated - copper coated steel center
conductor. Maybe his application is in an MRI?

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money"  ;-P


    Reply to author    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
m...@sushi.com  
View profile
 More options Oct 7 2008, 4:22 am
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
From: m...@sushi.com
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:22:36 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 7 2008 4:22 am
Subject: Re: non magnetic coax
On Oct 6, 3:20 pm, Rich Grise <r...@example.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:21:15 -0400, Daniel wrote:

> > has anybody a source of non-magnetic RG174, RG178 or similar coaxial cable?

> This doesn't make any sense. There is nothing magnetic about coax, unless
> it's in a coil creating a magnetic field, which isn't the coax's fault.

> Hope This Helps!
> Rich

A tinned shield would have some nickel in it, right?

    Reply to author    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Tom Bruhns  
View profile
 More options Oct 7 2008, 5:51 am
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
From: Tom Bruhns <k7...@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 17:51:07 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 7 2008 5:51 am
Subject: Re: non magnetic coax
On Oct 6, 1:21 pm, Daniel <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Hello,

> has anybody a source of non-magnetic RG174, RG178 or similar coaxial cable?

> Daniel

Perhaps Belden types 7805 or 7805R?  They apparently have a solid
copper center conductor instead of stranded copper-clad steel.

Cheers,
Tom


    Reply to author    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Tom Bruhns  
View profile
 More options Oct 7 2008, 5:53 am
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
From: Tom Bruhns <k7...@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 17:53:16 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 7 2008 5:53 am
Subject: Re: non magnetic coax
On Oct 6, 3:20 pm, Rich Grise <r...@example.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:21:15 -0400, Daniel wrote:

> > has anybody a source of non-magnetic RG174, RG178 or similar coaxial cable?

> This doesn't make any sense. There is nothing magnetic about coax, unless
> it's in a coil creating a magnetic field, which isn't the coax's fault.

> Hope This Helps!
> Rich

You should try holding a magnet near normal RG-174/U sometime.

    Reply to author    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Daniel  
View profile
 More options Oct 7 2008, 4:37 pm
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
From: Daniel <inva...@invalid.invalid>
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:37:51 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 7 2008 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: non magnetic coax

> This doesn't make any sense. There is nothing magnetic about coax

unfortunately nearly everything is magnetic. Most cables have steel
conductors that are strongly magnetic. Even if they have no steel, many
cables and connectors (everything that is gold-plated) have nickel
adhesion layers below the gold. I am doing ferromagnetic resonance
experiments, in these I can see the absorption from the cables. Our
samples are very thin films (around hundred nm), so even a very thin
metal film left from machining will cause a signal as big as the sample.
Many people have problems with ferromagnetic resonance caused probably
by the dielectric of microwave connectors, even though nobody really
knows the reason.

Daniel


    Reply to author    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Daniel  
View profile
 More options Oct 7 2008, 4:43 pm
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
From: Daniel <inva...@invalid.invalid>
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:43:03 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 7 2008 4:43 pm
Subject: Re: non magnetic coax
Hello Tom,

thanks for the idea.

Daniel


    Reply to author    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Daniel  
View profile
 More options Oct 7 2008, 4:43 pm
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
From: Daniel <inva...@invalid.invalid>
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:43:48 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 7 2008 4:43 pm
Subject: Re: non magnetic coax

> A tinned shield would have some nickel in it, right?

I don't know, do you know a source for that info?

    Reply to author    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Bill Sloman  
View profile
 More options Oct 7 2008, 6:26 pm
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
From: "Bill Sloman" <bill.slo...@ieee.org>
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 15:26:09 +0200
Local: Tues, Oct 7 2008 6:26 pm
Subject: Re: non magnetic coax

"Tom Bruhns" <k7...@msn.com> wrote in
news:3de7ce23-1edd-4c75-8c71-f760d9f4b608@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 6, 1:21 pm, Daniel <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> > Hello,

> > has anybody a source of non-magnetic RG174, RG178 or similar coaxial
> > cable?

> > Daniel
> Perhaps Belden types 7805 or 7805R?  They apparently have a solid
> copper center conductor instead of stranded copper-clad steel.

I just checked out an example of semi-rigid coax, and the one I looked at
used copper for the outer conductor and silver-plated copper (SPC) for the
inner.

http://www.micro-coax.com/pages/products/ProductTypes/CableTypes/Semi...

Unfortunately, when I checked out RG402 and RG405 - the semi-rigid coax that
you can buy from most broadline distributors - all the manufacturer's data
sheets that I could find used silver-plated copper-clad steel wire for the
inner conductor (also known as silver-plated copper weld SPCW). Many of
Micro-coax's semi-rigid cables use the same centre conductor, but they do
seem to use silver-plated copper centre wires in at least some of their
cables - I didn't dig deep enough to find out why.

Semi-rigid cable is nice stuff, but expensive, and if you can't get it from
a distributor you quite often have to buy quite a lot more than you need.

If you called up a local manufacturer of semi-rigid cable and told them what
you needed and why you needed it you might be able to get a big enough free
sample out if them to enable you to check out the approach.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen


    Reply to author    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
MooseFET  
View profile
 More options Oct 7 2008, 6:41 pm
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
From: MooseFET <kensm...@rahul.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 06:41:16 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 7 2008 6:41 pm
Subject: Re: non magnetic coax
On Oct 6, 1:21 pm, Daniel <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Hello,

> has anybody a source of non-magnetic RG174, RG178 or similar coaxial cable?

> Daniel

Belden 9221

    Reply to author    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
ggher...@gmail.com  
View profile
 More options Oct 7 2008, 8:15 pm
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
From: ggher...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 08:15:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 7 2008 8:15 pm
Subject: Re: non magnetic coax
On Oct 6, 4:21 pm, Daniel <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Hello,

> has anybody a source of non-magnetic RG174, RG178 or similar coaxial cable?

> Daniel

Yup I needed this to run RF to our optical pumping apparatus.  Belden
9221 010.  Newark part number 05F1809.  The core is all copper, The
impedance is 75 ohms.

George Herold


    Reply to author    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Daniel  
View profile
 More options Oct 7 2008, 9:28 pm
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
From: Daniel <inva...@invalid.invalid>
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:28:41 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 7 2008 9:28 pm
Subject: Re: non magnetic coax
thank you all for your help, I've ordered both 9221 and 7805, I'll post
the results soon.

Daniel


    Reply to author    Forward