>>>>ValleyGirl wrote: >>>>>If anyone that would claim to have even a single ounce of >>>>>intelligence, they also would not be able to vote for this jerk.
>>> Ahh, I see. So, Obama met this Ayers guy a few times and even served >>> on a committee with him! Gosh darn, that's pretty bad.
>>> So if guilt by association is in play, is it important that the >>> Republican VP candidate is married to a professed traitor? Wasn't the >>> First Dude a genuine member of the Alaska Independence Party, a party >>> with the stated position of secession from the USA? A party whose >>> founder stated "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for >>> America or her damned institutions" and who refused to be buried >>> under the American flag (his remains are in Canada).
>>> I guess if Obama can be pilloried for associating with somebody whose >>> radical behavior occurred when Obama was, what, eight years old, then >>> it's fair to ask why Palin supports the AKIP today. Last I heard, >>> secessionists are indeed traitors. Why does Sarah Palin hate America? >>> McCain, too, since he picked her. Why does John McCain hate America?
>> So I guess your voting for Obama! Sounds like it when you try to >> justify obama's actions with palin's. (last I heard the "AIP" didn't >> try to kill anyone) In any case you seem to think palin is running for >> president... oh, but she's one heart beat away! omg... your so amazing >> richie!!
>> Go ahead and also explain away Acorn, Wright, Rezko, and god knows who >> else. Your such a genius I'm sure you can come up with some >> explination for all these coincidental relationships.
>> Of course you'd rather have hilter be president if he was a democrat >> rather than jesus if he was a republican.
> BTW,there's indications that while Obama was running the Chicago Annenberg > Challenge,after being selected for the post by Ayers(over far more > qualified people),funneled grant money to Ayer's pet projects.(conflict of > interest..)
> Rezko got Obama special "loans" that apparently were not repaid. > Then there's Michelle Obama's curious pay raise after some of Obama's > actions as State Senator...
> It's simply amazing how much Obama corruption and background the MSM has > studiously AVOIDED looking into,but they ARE going after Palin with a > vengeance and a fine-tooth comb. outright criminal!
Well, you reap what you soe... unfortunately everyone that knew better is going to have to eat that shit too.
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:29:13 -0400, Rich Webb > <bbew...@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:
>>Ahh, I see. So, Obama met this Ayers guy a few times and even served on >>a committee with him! Gosh darn, that's pretty bad.
> The guy bombed federal buildings.
> Can you even hear the crap you are spewing?
> Yes, GOSH DARN IT, it is pretty fucking bad, you ignorant little > bastard.
> Retards like you think nothing of NYPD taking a person's car for > finding a mere seed in the ash tray, but you are too goddamned blind and > stupid to see this as being a severe compromise? I don't even think the > bastard should be allowed on the ballot!
No, he's not stupid... you have to have a brain to be stupid.
>>Ahh, I see. So, Obama met this Ayers guy a few times and even served on >>a committee with him! Gosh darn, that's pretty bad.
> The guy bombed federal buildings.
> Can you even hear the crap you are spewing?
> Yes, GOSH DARN IT, it is pretty fucking bad, you ignorant little >bastard.
Tsk tsk. Resorting to ad hominem attacks doesn't address the documented treasonous behavior of the Palins. Nevertheless ...
> Retards like you think nothing of NYPD taking a person's car for >finding a mere seed in the ash tray, but you are too goddamned blind and >stupid to see this as being a severe compromise? I don't even think the >bastard should be allowed on the ballot!
... if we need to examine the associates of the presidential candidates, what about the convicted felon who acknowledged preparing to kill someone during political burglaries "if necessary"; who plotted to murder journalists; plotted with a "gangland figure" to murder a co-conspirator to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotted to firebomb Washington think tanks; and plotted to kidnap "guerillas" from the other party at a national political convention? This is all stuff that this person has admitted to.
Would it be a problem if this individual was an Obama supporter who had donated thousands of dollars to his campaign? If Obama had appeared on his radio program and called him an "old friend," praising his "adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great"? Who had a fundraiser at his house for Obama?
Gosh, that sounds pretty bad, eh? Well, we're talking about John McCain and the felon is Gordon Liddy so, of course, it doesn't count.
Intellectual honesty would seem to compel the same level of outrage against each candidate for the past actions and activities of one of their more infamous supporters. Absent that, all of the wailing and rending of garments seems more than just a little disingenuous.
> >>>ValleyGirl wrote: > >>>>If anyone that would claim to have even a single ounce of > >>>>intelligence, they also would not be able to vote for this jerk.
> >> Ahh, I see. So, Obama met this Ayers guy a few times and even served > >> on a committee with him! Gosh darn, that's pretty bad.
> >> So if guilt by association is in play, is it important that the > >> Republican VP candidate is married to a professed traitor? Wasn't the > >> First Dude a genuine member of the Alaska Independence Party, a party > >> with the stated position of secession from the USA? A party whose > >> founder stated "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for > >> America or her damned institutions" and who refused to be buried > >> under the American flag (his remains are in Canada).
> >> I guess if Obama can be pilloried for associating with somebody whose > >> radical behavior occurred when Obama was, what, eight years old, then > >> it's fair to ask why Palin supports the AKIP today. Last I heard, > >> secessionists are indeed traitors. Why does Sarah Palin hate America? > >> McCain, too, since he picked her. Why does John McCain hate America?
> > So I guess your voting for Obama! Sounds like it when you try to > > justify obama's actions with palin's. (last I heard the "AIP" didn't > > try to kill anyone) In any case you seem to think palin is running for > > president... oh, but she's one heart beat away! omg... your so amazing > > richie!!
> > Go ahead and also explain away Acorn, Wright, Rezko, and god knows who > > else. Your such a genius I'm sure you can come up with some > > explination for all these coincidental relationships.
> > Of course you'd rather have hilter be president if he was a democrat > > rather than jesus if he was a republican.
> BTW,there's indications that while Obama was running the Chicago Annenberg > Challenge,after being selected for the post by Ayers(over far more > qualified people),funneled grant money to Ayer's pet projects.(conflict of > interest..)
> Rezko got Obama special "loans" that apparently were not repaid. > Then there's Michelle Obama's curious pay raise after some of Obama's > actions as State Senator...
> It's simply amazing how much Obama corruption and background the MSM has > studiously AVOIDED looking into,but they ARE going after Palin with a > vengeance and a fine-tooth comb. outright criminal!
I doubt if Sarah Palin is an outright criminal - at least not within the US legal system where Republican law-makers have written in large loop-holes to allow Republican-style political corruption to continue unchecked - but she is a Republican and thus dedicated to running the country for the benefit of people with plenty of money, which makes her a much more promising target for investigation.
As for the "amazing amounts of Obama corruption" that Repulican sources are now claiming to be unearthing, the only amazing thing about it is that right-wingers like you think that it s worth commenting on -Goebels may have invented "the big lie" but Karl Rove is the master of the technique in the USA and since is now less than a month until your country goes to the polls, this election's "Swift Boat liars" have just hit the campaign trail. Karl Rove may have retired, but his former subordinates seem to have learned enough from the master.
The mainstream media has seen it all before, several times, and will presumably nail down a few of the more blantant inventions, but right- wing nitwits will continue to spread slanderous rumours that appeal to their unsavoury prejudices no matter how implausible they seem to people with knowledge of the real world.
> "UltimatePatriot" <UltimatePatr...@thebestcountry.org> wrote in message > news:idtie4526uqqhh63d5i7322f14jh1m1648@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:29:13 -0400, Rich Webb >> <bbew...@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:
>>>Ahh, I see. So, Obama met this Ayers guy a few times and even served on >>>a committee with him! Gosh darn, that's pretty bad.
Obama STARTED his political career at a party at Ayer's home,thrown by Ayers. He worked closely with Ayers while on the Annenberg Challenge. (after being selected BY Ayers for the job) It's far more than "just a guy who lives down the block"...
THEN,the big question is; WHY does Obama want to hide his long association with this unabashed terrorist? It seems Obama wants to hide much of his past. He will not release his college records,nor papers he wrote for thesis,it seems his birth certificate is "missing"...
>> Yes, GOSH DARN IT, it is pretty fucking bad, you ignorant little >> bastard.
>> Retards like you think nothing of NYPD taking a person's car for >> finding a mere seed in the ash tray, but you are too goddamned blind and >> stupid to see this as being a severe compromise? I don't even think the >> bastard should be allowed on the ballot!
> No, he's not stupid... you have to have a brain to be stupid.
> > On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 15:40:40 -0700 (PDT), JeffM <jef...@email.com> > > wrote:
> >>ValleyGirl wrote: > >>>If anyone that would claim to have even a single ounce of > >>>intelligence, they also would not be able to vote for this jerk.
> > Keating went to prison. My brother's wife was directly involved in > > the > > prosecution of the case.
> > Mr. Glenn and Mr. McCain were cleared of ANY impropriety, but were > > cited > > for poor judgement.Note also that the band you pointed out were all > > Democruds, except for JM. Which president's brother has a chalet in > > Vale? Thesame person that was more involved than likely any of those > > you pointed out.
> > Still, JM is NOT those persons.
> > None of those persons were lighting off bombs either. There is a > > HUGE > > difference.
> > I would not want a President that had connections with low lifes > > that > > might allow him to rid himself of an "annoyance" should he wish too.
> > Sorry, he (Obama) is way over-compromised in way too many places.
> > He should bust-a-cap in his own skull, and then he could have a > > surge > > he could believe in.
> Obama said in his book that that is the sort of people he looked to > associate with;"carefully selecting his friends". > Socialists(Communists,actually),radicals,Rezko,Ayers,etc.
So Jim Yarnik thinks that socialist are actually communists. This makes Britain a communist country, since the Labour party in power is a socialist party
In fact the split between socialism and communism goes back to about 1870, but it happened in Europe, and no US right-winger is going to bother learning anything about European history, preferring to get their mis-information from the gibberings of right-wing think tanks.
On 6 okt, 04:44, ValleyGirl <LuvYerNa...@LikeIWouldGiveIt.Comeon> wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:39:27 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmill...@aol.com> wrote: > >On Oct 5, 3:01?pm, ValleyGirl <LuvYerNa...@LikeIWouldGiveIt.Comeon> > >wrote: > >> ? If anyone that would claim to have even a single ounce of intelligence, > >> they also would not be able to vote for this jerk.
> >> ?The two are mutually exclusive.
> >Intelligence is not measured in ounces.
> Obviously, dumbass. The amount you possess would be immeasurably small.
> Particularly since you do not understand the statement, despite its > simplicity.
The statement is simple enough, if not exactly grammatical, and mpm understands exactly what it means - which is that Valley Girl is an inarticulate and cognitvely challenged nitwit.
Valley Girl clearly intended to send a different message but lacks the skills required to create the desired impression on the reader.
>>>> "UltimatePatriot" <UltimatePatr...@thebestcountry.org> wrote in message >>>> news:0obie4tps94d5pmit9rmldmv07o5r6ualj@4ax.com... >>>>> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 16:46:52 -0400, "Tam" <t-tamm...@comcast.net> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>He was found guilty, but the conviction was overthrown because of an >>>>>>improper wire tap. Bill Clinton pardoned him. I believe he is >>>>>>currently >>>>>>a >>>>>>professor at UI.
>>>>>>Tam
>>>>> FOUND GUILTY OF BOMBING FEDERAL BUILDINGS!
>>>>> What the fuck is this guy a professor of?
>>>> Home Grown Terrorists 101
>>>> How to Overthrow the Government
>>>> How to Rig an Election
>>>> How to Kill People and Destroy a Nation
>>> Sounds remarkably (ultra) right-wing.
>>Really? I didn't know obama and ayers was right-wing.
Neither has been convicted of any terrorist act, not that this will slow down this election's Swift Boat People.
>>How come radical liberals always blame the "right" for doing such things >>but >>they themselfs are the ones doing it? How many "right wing" people are >>out >>there blowing up buildings, planning to overthrow the government, having >>violent protests(such as the ones during the RNC), etc etc etc!
> About the same percentage as terrorist Christians.
Timothy McVeigh was Catholic and right wing.
>>About the only thing I have seen right wing nuts do is attack abortion >>clinics... but I guess that is enough justification for left wing groups.
Timothy McVeigh blew up the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City which wasn't any kind of abortion clinic.
> Yep. Wonder what percentage of Republicans do that? Probably > immeasurably small.
Jim's grasp of reality is reliably fallible.
Randall Terry exists, so the percentage may be small, but it is certainly finite and potentially measurable.
Of course, the US mainstream media doesn't want to upset the Republican Party so they may refrain from mentioning that a convicted abortion clinic attacker has Republican Party affiliations.
bill.sloman @ieee.org wrote: >I doubt if Sarah Palin is an outright criminal - at least not within >the US legal system where Republican law-makers have written in large >loop-holes to allow Republican-style political corruption to continue >unchecked -
I have no such doubt. Federal and state laws mandate that gov't business be done in the open. It is a clear violation to use a webmail account to purposely evade the requirement to archive that correspondence. http://www.google.com/search?q=gov.palin+yahoo
