>> "K9way" <ad14...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message >> news:1kgcs6xth2.ln2@recgroups.com... >>> John Boehner stood on camera and waved a copy of the Constitution , all >>> the while repeating the line about 'all people being created equal' >>> being >>> in the Preamble to the Constitution .
>>> ONLY ONE PROBLEM .. The Constitution doesnt have a preamble , but the >>> declaration of Independence does !!
>>> YOU JUST CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP !!
>> Well, you did.
>> Preamble : constitution : >> We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect >> Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the >> common defence,[1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings >> of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this >> Constitution for the United States of America.
>> When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one >> people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with >> another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and >> equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle >> them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they >> should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. >> 2.1 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are >> created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain >> inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of >> happiness. >> 2.2 That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among >> men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That >> whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is >> the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new >> government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its >> powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their >> safety and happiness. >> 2.3 Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established >> should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all >> experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while >> evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to >> which they are accustomed. >> 2.4 But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing >> invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute >> despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such >> government, and to provide new guards for their future security. >> 2.5 Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such >> is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems >> of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a >> history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object >> the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these States. To prove >> this, let facts be submitted to a candid world. >> Charges >> 3.1 He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and >> necessary for the public good. >> He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and >> pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent >> should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to >> attend to them. >> He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large >> districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of >> Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and >> formidable to tyrants only. >> He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, >> uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, >> for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. >> He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing >> with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. >> He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause >> others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of >> Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; >> the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of >> invasion from without, and convulsions within. >> He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for >> that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; >> refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising >> the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands. >> He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his >> Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers. >> He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of >> their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. >> He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms >> of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance. >> He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without >> the Consent of our legislatures. >> He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior >> to the Civil power. >> He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction >> foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his >> Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: >> For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: >> For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any >> Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States: >> For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world: >> For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: >> For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury: >> For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended >> offences: >> For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring >> Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its >> Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for >> introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies: >> For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, >> and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments: >> For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves >> invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever. >> He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his >> Protection and waging War against us. >> He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, >> and destroyed the lives of our people. >> He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign >> Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, >> already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled >> in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized >> nation. >> He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high >> Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of >> their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands. >> He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has >> endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless >> Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished >> destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions. >> [Excised passagte on slavery] >> see Jefferson's draft He has waged cruel war against human nature >> itself, violating it's most sacred rights of life and liberty in the >> persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and >> carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable >> death in their transportation thither. This piratical warfare, the >> opprobrium of infidels powers, is the warfare of the Christian king of >> Great Britain. He has prostituted his negative for suppressing every >> legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce >> determining to keep open a market where MEN should be bought and sold: >> and that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished >> die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and >> to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, by murdering the >> people upon whom he also obtruded them: thus paying off former crimes >> committed against the liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges >> them to commit against the lives of another. >> Conclusion >> 4.1 In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for >> Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been >> answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked >> by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a >> free people. >> Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. >> We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their >> legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. >> We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and >> settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and >> magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred >> to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our >> connections and correspondence. >> They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of >> consanguinity. >> We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces >> our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in >> War, in Peace Friends. >> 5.1 >> Summation We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of >> America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge >> of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by >> Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and >> declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free >> and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the >> British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the >> State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as >> Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude >> Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts >> and Things which Independent States may of right do. >> And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on >> the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our >> Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
> ??? Want to clarify something here, Beldin the Sorcerer?
The constitution's preamble label stayed, the DoI's preamble didn't. The section was labeled on the web page.
Here's a shorter, clearer version http://candst.tripod.com/doi-pream.htm We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The above is definately preamble.
The below may or may not be
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
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