> Even if you're a liberal, you'd have to admit that the idea of free cell > phones is nothing more than advancing the left wing agenda and pandering > to recipients, with no cost/benefit that makes any sense. I mean, you'd > have to admit it to yourself, you'd never admit it in the pissing > contest, "of course".
> This program can't be rationalized into respectability by making a bogus > claim that, "it's been around for decades" by pointing to an obscurely > related, but not relevant FCC guideline.
> It's about cell phones, it's new. It's not about dormant aircraft or > farming issues. In the real world, people can't get a cell phone account > without decent credit. If they want a cell phone and they have bad > credit, they have to work on their credit rating. Cell phones are > somewhat of a luxury, at least against the backdrop of those who have no > work history and live off taxpayer's money for generations.
> However, the left wing says, "fuck those working suckers, you don't need > good credit or have to pay for a cell phone, we'll take those racist, > working assholes' money so that you can have cell phones too, (We're > working on the "free designer bath toiletries bill" in congress, now.) > Just remember to vote for radical socialists for President."
> A lousy 55 minutes a month? And for only a year? It's a joke and an > obvious political gimmick. It's no more than further indoctrination, one > more drop in the bucket in getting people to accept, "spread the > wealth" communism; "everyone deserves what you have".
> Government subsidized cells phones would make sense for, say, the > disabled who have obvious mobiity problems: for those who have fallen > and they can't get up. But, as it stands, I think we need a better > example of hard times victims than those deprived of free text messaging > while driving.
Whoa, Travel I agree with you. You made the points as clear or clearer than I would. Shit, that's scary
> On Nov 2 2009 1:49 AM, ramashiva wrote: > > On Nov 2, 12:46 am, "risky biz" <risky-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > Not surprising, Alim, that you don't even realize land lines in the home > > > are disappearing as people switch to cellphones. > > BZZT! Illogical. That does not compute. Reboot corrupted logic > > algorithm immediately. > > Just how fucking dumb are you? So what if the trend is from land > > lines to cellphones??? > > Landlines are still quite servicable, and everyone managed to get > > along with just land lines for decades before cell phones became cheap > > and available. > > You can still get basic landline service for less than $10. > > Landlines are already subsidized by the government for those who > > cannot afford this token cost. Alim has a valid point. Why is it > > necessary to give everyone a cell phone for free, when the government > > already provides the extremely poor with a free landline? > > As usual, you are a complete idiot and an embarassment to liberals. > > STFD and STFU. > > William Coleman (ramashiva) > In what manner does your short collection of irrelevant facts
LOL @ irrelevant facts.
Do you understand that calling my facts irrelevant doesn't make them so? My facts are quite relevant and cogent to the discussion. You have offered no logical argument as to why my facts are irrelevant to the discussion.
You debate at the same level as a retarded sixth-grader. Beyond pathetic.
> invalidate > the basic fact that a large number of people are dropping their land lines > and switching to solely cellphones for communication? Why should the > government expend assets to go countertrend?
Why should they expend assets to follow the trend? That would be illogical.
You are terminally stupid. Idiot.
The trend is created by people who can afford to pay for their own phone service.
There is no logical reason the government should follow this trend, when landlines are quite serviceable and already subsidized by the government for the extremely poor.
> You stupid asshole.
I know you are, but what am I?
Just how many times do I have to bodyslam you in this argument, before your overblown ego finally gives way to the reality that I am stomping you into a greasespot on the ground?
Go away. I have wasted way too much time on you already.
> > > Landlines are already subsidized by the government for those who > > > cannot afford this token cost. Alim has a valid point. Why is it > > > necessary to give everyone a cell phone for free, when the government > > > already provides the extremely poor with a free landline?
> > As I explained before, to no coherent factual rebuttal, the cost of cell > > phones and air time make it as economically feasible to extend the program > > into that area. That's why they did it, fucking duh.
> > If you have evidence that there's some substantial additional burden to the > > taxpayer, perhaps you can do a better job of showing us than Nassor did. Do > > your homework, fuckface.
> > I, for one, will not be holding my breath waiting for you.
> Do you suffer from extreme lack of reading comprehension??? I already > said I agree with you on this issue. I was just pointing out a > logical fallacy committed by the idiot Risky, and arguing both sides > of the question as a logical exercise.
> You ought to try this sometime yourself. Remove your ideological > blinders and construct the most persuasive argument you can to support > your opponent's position. This will deepen your understanding of the > issues and make you a better defender of your point of view.
> You can thank me later for explaining to you how to stop being a > partisan hack and become someone who actually understands the issues.
> William Coleman (ramashiva)
Trolling numbskull. You criticizing Beldin's pretensions is a freaking joke.
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> On Nov 2, 1:20 am, "risky biz" <risky-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > On Nov 2 2009 1:49 AM, ramashiva wrote:
> > > On Nov 2, 12:46 am, "risky biz" <risky-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > Not surprising, Alim, that you don't even realize land lines in the home > > > > are disappearing as people switch to cellphones.
> > > BZZT! Illogical. That does not compute. Reboot corrupted logic > > > algorithm immediately.
> > > Just how fucking dumb are you? So what if the trend is from land > > > lines to cellphones???
> > > Landlines are still quite servicable, and everyone managed to get > > > along with just land lines for decades before cell phones became cheap > > > and available.
> > > You can still get basic landline service for less than $10.
> > > Landlines are already subsidized by the government for those who > > > cannot afford this token cost. Alim has a valid point. Why is it > > > necessary to give everyone a cell phone for free, when the government > > > already provides the extremely poor with a free landline?
> > > As usual, you are a complete idiot and an embarassment to liberals.
> > > STFD and STFU.
> > > William Coleman (ramashiva)
> > In what manner does your short collection of irrelevant facts
> LOL @ irrelevant facts.
> Do you understand that calling my facts irrelevant doesn't make them > so? My facts are quite relevant and cogent to the discussion. You > have offered no logical argument as to why my facts are irrelevant to > the discussion.
> You debate at the same level as a retarded sixth-grader. Beyond > pathetic.
> > invalidate > > the basic fact that a large number of people are dropping their land lines > > and switching to solely cellphones for communication? Why should the > > government expend assets to go countertrend?
> Why should they expend assets to follow the trend? That would be > illogical.
> You are terminally stupid. Idiot.
> The trend is created by people who can afford to pay for their own > phone service.
> There is no logical reason the government should follow this trend, > when landlines are quite serviceable and already subsidized by the > government for the extremely poor.
> > You stupid asshole.
> I know you are, but what am I?
> Just how many times do I have to bodyslam you in this argument, before > your overblown ego finally gives way to the reality that I am stomping > you into a greasespot on the ground?
> Go away. I have wasted way too much time on you already.
> William Coleman (ramashiva)
Bye, bye, troll.
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> > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:14451c18-eab3-4bf5-8fe4-27ea3a037336@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > > >Did you know the government is giving away free cellphones and monthly > > >allotments of airtime? How in the world did this trash become a > > >Federal program. What is it that make people think the government > > >owes them a freaking cell phone plan?
> > I'm all for it. I'm all for welfare too. If there are no good jobs for a > > person I say they should go on welfare. It's better than being a slave > > making minimum wage jobs with no benefits and no healthcare.
> I say they should die and we can be rid of them.
> On Nov 2, 2:12 pm, "O-PGManager" <ad63...@webnntp.invalid> wrote: > > > Like I asked > > > risky, please point to anywhere I have ever said I support Ag > > > subsidies.
> > You've never said anything about ag subsidies. You've never said anything > > about billions in big oil subsidies even when they have record profits. > > Just like you've never said anything about hundreds of billions being paid > > to defense contractors to make jets that will never be used. Yet you want > > us to get all up in arms over a microscopic expense like a few poor people > > getting cell phones.
> When and if there is a thread about such things, then I may comment > and you can feel free to criticize or agree with whatever I post.
You speak as though you just wandered into this conversation. You STARTED this thread! Of all the cases of dubious government spending THIS microscopic expenditure is the one you want to focus on.
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On Nov 2, 9:23 am, "O-PGManager" <ad63...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > If you are going to be posting regularly again, would you be > > interested in this position? It's lots of fun and not much work. > Absolutely Ramashiva.
Got that Paul? OPGM is interested in the Ass. Coordinator position. As we both agreed, we should ideally have ideological balance in top management. Notice I didn't include the currently active liberals in my list of recommended candidates. Braindead idiots like Risky, Dogfucker, and Clave are totally unacceptable to me, and I would assume to you as well.
OPGM wants the job. He is an excellent candidate. Say the word, and the Ass. Coordinator position is finally filled.
One thing I need to explain to you, OPGM. Sensei Maverick is the Senior Newsgroup Ubertroll. Popinjay and I, as Assistant Newsgroup Ubertrolls, report directlly to Sensei Maverick. We do what he tells us to do, and we do not give him any shit about anything.
If you give Sensei Maverick any shit about anything, you will be instantly fired. You will not be reporting directly to Sensei Maverick. Popinjay, as Senior Coordinator, will be your boss. Giving shit to Popinjay's boss is simply unacceptable.
The only hope to for bringing any semblance of order and civility to this putrid cesspool of hatred, lies, and psychopathic disfunction known as rec.gambling.poker, is to have a command structure with people giving orders and following orders.
Feel good "let's all get along and respect each other" bullshit just doesn't cut it when you have full blown howling Satanic demons like Beldin, Susan, and Bea spewing their psychotic hatred and lies on a daily basis.
> On Nov 2, 12:48 pm, "Abbey Johnsson" <ac68...@webnntp.invalid> wrote: > > On Nov 1 2009 10:45 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> > >> Where in my OP did you see anything that would lead you to believe i > > > was discussing Ag subsidies in this thread? Point to any post I have > > > ever made where i support such subsidies.
> > lol-you may have hit alim a little to close to home, doggy. he's told us > > he comes from a ranching family in montague county, texas.
> > here is the list of the top farmer welfare (uhhh, i mean subsidies) > > recipiants for montague county, texas. i wonder if one is alim's family. > > you know any of these guys, alim?
> > 1 James S Carpenter Nocona, TX 76255 $700,453 > > 2 Wayne Jennings Ringgold, TX 76261 $399,729 > > 3 Chrisopher D Tompkins Montague, TX 76251 $319,510 > > 4 Skinner Feed Lot Inc ∗ Nocona, TX 76255 $278,117 > > 5 Randy Nobile Nocona, TX 76255 $236,991 > > 6 Gary D Odom Nocona, TX 76255 $235,837 > > 7 Roger Cowden Nocona, TX 76255 $216,421 > > 8 Richard C Haralson Nocona, TX 76255 $198,302 > > 9 J Larry Ogle Bowie, TX 76230 $183,901 > > 10 Royce Corado Montague, TX 76251 $182,922 > > 11 Trubenbach Cattle Co ∗ Muenster, TX 76252 $182,873 > > 12 Albert Fenoglio Montague, TX 76251 $180,434 > > 13 Donald Ray Fenoglio Montague, TX 76251 $174,930 > > 14 Jimmy D Howard Nocona, TX 76255 $149,939 > > 15 David K Miller Nocona, TX 76255 $139,080 > > 16 B B Holloway Bowie, TX 76230 $138,997 > > 17 Andrew Acuna Montague, TX 76251 $137,736 > > 18 George Blackmon Bowie, TX 76230 $135,462 > > 19 Joe A Staley Nocona, TX 76255 $133,809 > > 20 Hartman Farm & Ranch Inc ∗ Muenster, TX 76252 $130,169
> Just for clarity Abbey you should have mentioned that is over a 10 > year period. And you should have mentioned that 82 percent of all > farmer and ranchers do not receive any subsidies. And one more time > Abbey, point to anywhere I ever said I support such subsidies?
thats funny. you didnt mention that the freebie cell phones were only for one year in your post.
so.....did doggy hit too close to home? does your family or any of your relations collect farm subsidies?
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> On Nov 2, 12:48 pm, "Abbey Johnsson" <ac68...@webnntp.invalid> wrote: > > On Nov 1 2009 10:45 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> > >> Where in my OP did you see anything that would lead you to believe i > > > was discussing Ag subsidies in this thread? Point to any post I have > > > ever made where i support such subsidies.
> > lol-you may have hit alim a little to close to home, doggy. he's told us > > he comes from a ranching family in montague county, texas.
> > here is the list of the top farmer welfare (uhhh, i mean subsidies) > > recipiants for montague county, texas. i wonder if one is alim's family. > > you know any of these guys, alim?
> > 1 James S Carpenter Nocona, TX 76255 $700,453 > > 2 Wayne Jennings Ringgold, TX 76261 $399,729 > > 3 Chrisopher D Tompkins Montague, TX 76251 $319,510 > > 4 Skinner Feed Lot Inc ∗ Nocona, TX 76255 $278,117 > > 5 Randy Nobile Nocona, TX 76255 $236,991 > > 6 Gary D Odom Nocona, TX 76255 $235,837 > > 7 Roger Cowden Nocona, TX 76255 $216,421 > > 8 Richard C Haralson Nocona, TX 76255 $198,302 > > 9 J Larry Ogle Bowie, TX 76230 $183,901 > > 10 Royce Corado Montague, TX 76251 $182,922 > > 11 Trubenbach Cattle Co ∗ Muenster, TX 76252 $182,873 > > 12 Albert Fenoglio Montague, TX 76251 $180,434 > > 13 Donald Ray Fenoglio Montague, TX 76251 $174,930 > > 14 Jimmy D Howard Nocona, TX 76255 $149,939 > > 15 David K Miller Nocona, TX 76255 $139,080 > > 16 B B Holloway Bowie, TX 76230 $138,997 > > 17 Andrew Acuna Montague, TX 76251 $137,736 > > 18 George Blackmon Bowie, TX 76230 $135,462 > > 19 Joe A Staley Nocona, TX 76255 $133,809 > > 20 Hartman Farm & Ranch Inc ∗ Muenster, TX 76252 $130,169
> One more thing Abbey should have pointed out. 61% of those payments > were in the form of disaster payments or environmental and > conservation practices.
texas....#1 out of 50 states for collecting farm welfare.
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> > On Nov 2, 12:48 pm, "Abbey Johnsson" <ac68...@webnntp.invalid> wrote: > > > On Nov 1 2009 10:45 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> > > >> Where in my OP did you see anything that would lead you to believe i > > > > was discussing Ag subsidies in this thread? Point to any post I have > > > > ever made where i support such subsidies.
> > > lol-you may have hit alim a little to close to home, doggy. he's told us > > > he comes from a ranching family in montague county, texas.
> > > here is the list of the top farmer welfare (uhhh, i mean subsidies) > > > recipiants for montague county, texas. i wonder if one is alim's family. > > > you know any of these guys, alim?
> > > 1 James S Carpenter Nocona, TX 76255 $700,453 > > > 2 Wayne Jennings Ringgold, TX 76261 $399,729 > > > 3 Chrisopher D Tompkins Montague, TX 76251 $319,510 > > > 4 Skinner Feed Lot Inc ∗ Nocona, TX 76255 $278,117 > > > 5 Randy Nobile Nocona, TX 76255 $236,991 > > > 6 Gary D Odom Nocona, TX 76255 $235,837 > > > 7 Roger Cowden Nocona, TX 76255 $216,421 > > > 8 Richard C Haralson Nocona, TX 76255 $198,302 > > > 9 J Larry Ogle Bowie, TX 76230 $183,901 > > > 10 Royce Corado Montague, TX 76251 $182,922 > > > 11 Trubenbach Cattle Co ∗ Muenster, TX 76252 $182,873 > > > 12 Albert Fenoglio Montague, TX 76251 $180,434 > > > 13 Donald Ray Fenoglio Montague, TX 76251 $174,930 > > > 14 Jimmy D Howard Nocona, TX 76255 $149,939 > > > 15 David K Miller Nocona, TX 76255 $139,080 > > > 16 B B Holloway Bowie, TX 76230 $138,997 > > > 17 Andrew Acuna Montague, TX 76251 $137,736 > > > 18 George Blackmon Bowie, TX 76230 $135,462 > > > 19 Joe A Staley Nocona, TX 76255 $133,809 > > > 20 Hartman Farm & Ranch Inc ∗ Muenster, TX 76252 $130,169
> > One more thing Abbey should have pointed out. 61% of those payments > > were in the form of disaster payments or environmental and > > conservation practices.
> texas....#1 out of 50 states for collecting farm welfare.
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Texas is also ranked number 1 in agricultural output. There is a correlation.
I have many relatives who receive farm subsidies. I myself do not at the present time. As I said I do not support farm subsidies. I should clarify that a bit. I do not support MOST farm subisides. If you want to argue that ADM or Monsanto should not be receiving ag subsidies, then I agree with you. If you want to say that my cousin should not be eligible for disaster payments due to crop failure caused by drought, or that CRP payments are a bad thing then I may disagree. If you want to do away with disaster assistance for farmers then by all means do so, But lets also do away with FEMA, the National Flood Insurance program, presidential disaster declarations and so on.
At some point a nations food supply becomes a security issue. Using my cousin for example, yes he is on your list, over a 10 year period he received on average less than 20k a year in payments. The majority of that was disaster assistance. During that same time period he produced enough food to feed thousands of people each year. No one works harder than a family farmer. You want to call it welfare fine. See how many people you can line up to do the work required to get it. Try running a dairy some time. Hardest way I ever saw to get a government check. Yet we need to insure our farmers can produce our food. So subsidies are a necessary evil to insure the security of the nations food supply. Do you want to someday be totally dependent on foreign produce, grain and beef? From other countries who subsidise their farmers?
What has the lifetime recipient of public housing, food stamps, free lunches, welfare and free cell phones ever produced that compares with what our nations farmers produce? Yet if you add up the cost of all that assistance over the last ten years the price would probably exceed the less than 20k per year that my cousin received.
My cousin was in the top 15 recipients in the county. I wonder how many people in that same county, who produce nothing, receive as much or more assistance thatn he does.
> > On Nov 2, 12:48 pm, "Abbey Johnsson" <ac68...@webnntp.invalid> wrote: > > > On Nov 1 2009 10:45 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> > > >> Where in my OP did you see anything that would lead you to believe i > > > > was discussing Ag subsidies in this thread? Point to any post I have > > > > ever made where i support such subsidies.
> > > lol-you may have hit alim a little to close to home, doggy. he's told us > > > he comes from a ranching family in montague county, texas.
> > > here is the list of the top farmer welfare (uhhh, i mean subsidies) > > > recipiants for montague county, texas. i wonder if one is alim's family. > > > you know any of these guys, alim?
> > > 1 James S Carpenter Nocona, TX 76255 $700,453 > > > 2 Wayne Jennings Ringgold, TX 76261 $399,729 > > > 3 Chrisopher D Tompkins Montague, TX 76251 $319,510 > > > 4 Skinner Feed Lot Inc ∗ Nocona, TX 76255 $278,117 > > > 5 Randy Nobile Nocona, TX 76255 $236,991 > > > 6 Gary D Odom Nocona, TX 76255 $235,837 > > > 7 Roger Cowden Nocona, TX 76255 $216,421 > > > 8 Richard C Haralson Nocona, TX 76255 $198,302 > > > 9 J Larry Ogle Bowie, TX 76230 $183,901 > > > 10 Royce Corado Montague, TX 76251 $182,922 > > > 11 Trubenbach Cattle Co ∗ Muenster, TX 76252 $182,873 > > > 12 Albert Fenoglio Montague, TX 76251 $180,434 > > > 13 Donald Ray Fenoglio Montague, TX 76251 $174,930 > > > 14 Jimmy D Howard Nocona, TX 76255 $149,939 > > > 15 David K Miller Nocona, TX 76255 $139,080 > > > 16 B B Holloway Bowie, TX 76230 $138,997 > > > 17 Andrew Acuna Montague, TX 76251 $137,736 > > > 18 George Blackmon Bowie, TX 76230 $135,462 > > > 19 Joe A Staley Nocona, TX 76255 $133,809 > > > 20 Hartman Farm & Ranch Inc ∗ Muenster, TX 76252 $130,169
> > One more thing Abbey should have pointed out. 61% of those payments > > were in the form of disaster payments or environmental and > > conservation practices.
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Oh, I forgot one other thing. Starting in 2008, a producer must purchase insurance for all crops produced each year to be eligible for disaster payments. The Bush administration passed this reform of farm subsidies. Also all disaster payments and crop insurance proceeds are taxable. I'm pretty sure most people who get government housing, food stamps and free cellphones don't pay much in taxes.
> I have many relatives who receive farm subsidies. I myself do not at > the present time.
fine. so your family (and apparently you also at one time) dip into the govt trough just like everybody else. everybody gets a piece of the pie. are your relatives also stockpiling guns, ammunition and gold for when the govt checks stop coming? <----just joking, alim. dont have a cow. ha ha....i made a funny. telling you the rancher "dont have a cow".
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On Nov 3, 11:41 am, "Abbey Johnsson" <ac68...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Nov 2 2009 8:28 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> > I have many relatives who receive farm subsidies. I myself do not at > > the present time.
> fine. so your family (and apparently you also at one time) dip into the > govt trough just like everybody else. everybody gets a piece of the pie. > are your relatives also stockpiling guns, ammunition and gold for when the > govt checks stop coming? <----just joking, alim. dont have a cow. ha > ha....i made a funny. telling you the rancher "dont have a cow".
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Haha. Some of my relatives do have a preparedness mindset.
> > > Did you know the government is giving away free cellphones and monthly > > > allotments of airtime? How in the world did this trash become a > > > Federal program. What is it that make people think the government > > > owes them a freaking cell phone plan?
> > As I recall this was legislation sponsored by the Republicans and passed > > when they were in control of Congress. It was so their supporters could > > call in to the Sean Hannity, etc., talk shows.
> It's an extension of the FCC's Project Lifeline, which has been > subsidizing > telephone access for low-income Americans since 1985.
> So you can blame St. Reagan.
> Jim
Slight difference in subsidizing and giving it away for free. I believe back then the subsidy was moslty for buidling infrastructure in rural areas though i could be wrong.
Giving cell phones and airtime away is just more welfare. I have a stepdaughter who is currently unemployed and she gave up her cell phone because of the cost. That is the way it should be handled. Free cellphones are not a right. *** Access to 911 is a right. That's the intent. The ability to call for help is a right. The ability to call 1-900-babe is not
>> > Did you know the government is giving away free cellphones and monthly >> > allotments of airtime? How in the world did this trash become a >> > Federal program. What is it that make people think the government >> > owes them a freaking cell phone plan?
>> As I recall this was legislation sponsored by the Republicans and passed >> when they were in control of Congress. It was so their supporters could >> call in to the Sean Hannity, etc., talk shows.
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The Finnish government has become the first in the world to make broadband internet access a legal right.
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The Finnish government committed to provide universal service last year, but this week's move is the latest part of an ambitious project to upgrade the country's broadband infrastructure.
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> The only hope to for bringing any semblance of order and civility to > this putrid cesspool of hatred, lies, and psychopathic disfunction > known as rec.gambling.poker, is to have a command structure with > people giving orders and following orders.
Agreed, we're gonna clean it up like Wyatt Earp cleaned up Tombstone.
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:1d13b3ec-72d5-4562-bdc1-57ea38c31faa@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com... > On Nov 1, 10:25 pm, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> > wrote: > > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message > >news:8a5ee6d9-bda9-410e-9923-1696f798b4de@h40g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > On Nov 1, 10:07 pm, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> > > wrote: > > > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message > > >news:cf81500f-fde2-4577-b6eb-2d19a9806c50@b36g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > > On Nov 1, 9:47 pm, Alim Nassor <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >> Nice explanation Jim, > > > > You can always tell when Clave has lost an argument... > > > And when I haven't -- you jump in to defend your slurp buddy. > > Nope. I agree with you on the point in question. At the same time, I > > recognize that Alim has kicked your ass in the argument. > > ================================================================== > > Funny how you can hold those two ideas in your head at the same time. > Funny how you can't. > Do you always think the person you agree with won the argument? Even > if he did a piss poor job of defending his position? > ==================================================================== > Sorry, tis *you* doing a piss-poor needle job.
No I am not. I have jammed a giant hypodermic needle right up your usenet k00k ass. When are you going to understand that you are the mirror image of Beldin? You are hopelessly confused about the difference between reality and your perception of reality.
> (You could grow up too.)
Usenet k00k cliche noted.
Concession accepted.
QED.
I guess I win again.
Thanks for proving me right.
Learn to lose.
You are the biggest joke on RGP. Even bigger than Beldin. *** Noone's a bigger joke than you, Willie.
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