I'm reading the newspaper this morning and it says Congress extended unemployment benefits, by a vote of 404 to 12. The article goes on to say that they get like 99 weeks of benefits! Holy crap, no wonder our country is going down the drain. I mean, it's been years, decades, since I ever got unemployment. I don't remember it being anywhere near that much. Are you kidding me? Are you telling me that these deadbeats nowadays can sit on their asses for 99 friggin weeks, getting paid by us people who still work? Unbelievable!
The article went on to say that the home purchase program is going to be extended also, so that people who have bought a house in the last five years get like $6000, or something like that. What the fuck?! Where is all this money supposed to come from? And what really gets me, only 12 Congressmen voted NO! Of course, all 12 were Republicans, the only ones with any sense in their heads. But how many Republicans does that mean still voted for this craziness?
It's like Fl Turbo has been telling me for years on this newsgroup now. Once the people figure out they can vote themselves free stuff, and the whore politicians go along with this, we are seeing the beginning of the end. Apparently, the bill was approved and waiting to be signed by Obama. Yeah, like THAT has any chance of being stopped by him. This is just crazy. Absolutely crazy.
> I'm reading the newspaper this morning and it says Congress extended > unemployment benefits, by a vote of 404 to 12. The article goes on to say > that they get like 99 weeks of benefits! Holy crap, no wonder our country > is going down the drain. I mean, it's been years, decades, since I ever > got unemployment. I don't remember it being anywhere near that much. Are > you kidding me? Are you telling me that these deadbeats nowadays can sit > on their asses for 99 friggin weeks, getting paid by us people who still > work? Unbelievable!
> The article went on to say that the home purchase program is going to be > extended also, so that people who have bought a house in the last five > years get like $6000, or something like that. What the fuck?! Where is > all this money supposed to come from? And what really gets me, only 12 > Congressmen voted NO! Of course, all 12 were Republicans, the only ones > with any sense in their heads. But how many Republicans does that mean > still voted for this craziness?
> It's like Fl Turbo has been telling me for years on this newsgroup now. > Once the people figure out they can vote themselves free stuff, and the > whore politicians go along with this, we are seeing the beginning of the > end. Apparently, the bill was approved and waiting to be signed by Obama. > Yeah, like THAT has any chance of being stopped by him. This is just > crazy. Absolutely crazy.
> -Paul Popinjay
Here in the UK there are people in their 50's that have been on unemployment benefit since they left school at 16. They've never worked a day in their life. They also get their rent and council tax paid for. 99 weeks is nothing over here.
> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:hd4sfr$sf2$1@news.eternal-september.org... > > I'm reading the newspaper this morning and it says Congress extended > > unemployment benefits, by a vote of 404 to 12. The article goes on to say > > that they get like 99 weeks of benefits! Holy crap, no wonder our country > > is going down the drain. I mean, it's been years, decades, since I ever > > got unemployment. I don't remember it being anywhere near that much. Are > > you kidding me? Are you telling me that these deadbeats nowadays can sit > > on their asses for 99 friggin weeks, getting paid by us people who still > > work? Unbelievable!
> > The article went on to say that the home purchase program is going to be > > extended also, so that people who have bought a house in the last five > > years get like $6000, or something like that. What the fuck?! Where is > > all this money supposed to come from? And what really gets me, only 12 > > Congressmen voted NO! Of course, all 12 were Republicans, the only ones > > with any sense in their heads. But how many Republicans does that mean > > still voted for this craziness?
> > It's like Fl Turbo has been telling me for years on this newsgroup now. > > Once the people figure out they can vote themselves free stuff, and the > > whore politicians go along with this, we are seeing the beginning of the > > end. Apparently, the bill was approved and waiting to be signed by Obama. > > Yeah, like THAT has any chance of being stopped by him. This is just > > crazy. Absolutely crazy.
> > -Paul Popinjay
> Here in the UK there are people in their 50's that have been on unemployment > benefit since they left school at 16. They've never worked a day in their > life. They also get their rent and council tax paid for. 99 weeks is nothing > over here.
Unless we unseat the entitlement crew here we'll catch up to the UK. That is what barry wants, European socialism. Why work when you can get everything for free. How about healthcare ... free. Yeah, it's absolutely crazy!
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> I'm reading the newspaper this morning and it says Congress extended > unemployment benefits, by a vote of 404 to 12. The article goes on to say > that they get like 99 weeks of benefits! Holy crap, no wonder our country > is going down the drain. I mean, it's been years, decades, since I ever got > unemployment. I don't remember it being anywhere near that much. Are you > kidding me? Are you telling me that these deadbeats nowadays can sit on > their asses for 99 friggin weeks, getting paid by us people who still work? > Unbelievable!
> The article went on to say that the home purchase program is going to be > extended also, so that people who have bought a house in the last five years > get like $6000, or something like that. What the fuck?! Where is all this > money supposed to come from? And what really gets me, only 12 Congressmen > voted NO! Of course, all 12 were Republicans, the only ones with any sense > in their heads. But how many Republicans does that mean still voted for > this craziness?
> It's like Fl Turbo has been telling me for years on this newsgroup now. > Once the people figure out they can vote themselves free stuff, and the > whore politicians go along with this, we are seeing the beginning of the > end. Apparently, the bill was approved and waiting to be signed by Obama. > Yeah, like THAT has any chance of being stopped by him. This is just crazy. > Absolutely crazy.
> -Paul Popinjay
Did you by chance see what that does to unemployment taxes paid by employers? This is going to cripple a lot of small businesses. Then who is going to employ people? We can't all work for the government, somebody has to produce something.
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> I'm reading the newspaper this morning and it says Congress extended > unemployment benefits, by a vote of 404 to 12. The article goes on to say > that they get like 99 weeks of benefits! Holy crap, no wonder our country > is going down the drain. I mean, it's been years, decades, since I ever > got unemployment. I don't remember it being anywhere near that much. Are > you kidding me? Are you telling me that these deadbeats nowadays can sit > on their asses for 99 friggin weeks, getting paid by us people who still > work? Unbelievable!
> The article went on to say that the home purchase program is going to be > extended also, so that people who have bought a house in the last five > years get like $6000, or something like that. What the fuck?! Where is > all this money supposed to come from? And what really gets me, only 12 > Congressmen voted NO! Of course, all 12 were Republicans, the only ones > with any sense in their heads. But how many Republicans does that mean > still voted for this craziness?
> It's like Fl Turbo has been telling me for years on this newsgroup now. > Once the people figure out they can vote themselves free stuff, and the > whore politicians go along with this, we are seeing the beginning of the > end. Apparently, the bill was approved and waiting to be signed by Obama. > Yeah, like THAT has any chance of being stopped by him. This is just > crazy. Absolutely crazy.
> -Paul Popinjay
The money comes from the same place it came from when working people were paying you when you weren't working. I guess you didn't have a problem taking a government handout then. I'm sure there were people then complaining about having to pay people like you for not working.
>> I'm reading the newspaper this morning and it says Congress extended >> unemployment benefits, by a vote of 404 to 12. The article goes on to >> say >> that they get like 99 weeks of benefits! Holy crap, no wonder our >> country >> is going down the drain. I mean, it's been years, decades, since I ever >> got >> unemployment. I don't remember it being anywhere near that much. Are >> you >> kidding me? Are you telling me that these deadbeats nowadays can sit on >> their asses for 99 friggin weeks, getting paid by us people who still >> work? >> Unbelievable!
>> The article went on to say that the home purchase program is going to be >> extended also, so that people who have bought a house in the last five >> years >> get like $6000, or something like that. What the fuck?! Where is all >> this >> money supposed to come from? And what really gets me, only 12 >> Congressmen >> voted NO! Of course, all 12 were Republicans, the only ones with any >> sense >> in their heads. But how many Republicans does that mean still voted for >> this craziness?
>> It's like Fl Turbo has been telling me for years on this newsgroup now. >> Once the people figure out they can vote themselves free stuff, and the >> whore politicians go along with this, we are seeing the beginning of the >> end. Apparently, the bill was approved and waiting to be signed by >> Obama. >> Yeah, like THAT has any chance of being stopped by him. This is just >> crazy. >> Absolutely crazy.
>> -Paul Popinjay
> Did you by chance see what that does to unemployment taxes paid by > employers? This is going to cripple a lot of small businesses. Then who is > going to employ people? We can't all work for the government, somebody has > to produce something.
Yeah, shithead, it's much better to let these people all starve and get forclosed on... that's SO good for the economy.
> Did you by chance see what that does to unemployment taxes paid by > employers? This is going to cripple a lot of small businesses. Then who is > going to employ people? We can't all work for the government, somebody has > to produce something.
Of course, Dave, you are 100% correct on every point you just made. Obviously you have enough experience and business sense to appreciate the ramifications of continuing in the way we are continuing. But Dave, there is a vital conflict in your overall sense of the whole picture. Y'see, Dave, it is not enough just to have good business sense and a desire to see our government act in a fiscally responsible manner. That alone will not save the nation. Because, Dave, right now in the United States of America there is a holocaust going on, and some 2,000,000 innocent babies are being ripped apart and thrown into the sink each year. If you think it is possible for our blessed country to continue in prosperity and freedom if we get our government spending under control yet do nothing to curb the rampant immorality, I think you are quite mistaken. Why should God continue to bless America when we turn our backs to Him and think nothing of allowing our daughters to act as harlots? It's a package deal, Dave. The Republican Party is indeed the hope of our nation, yet allowing the impure into a "big tent" is a sure path to damnation. Without principle, and morality, we are doomed.
> The money comes from the same place it came from when working people were > paying you when you weren't working. I guess you didn't have a problem > taking a government handout then. I'm sure there were people then > complaining about having to pay people like you for not working.
And when was that, numb nuts? About 30 years ago when I took TWO MONTHS OFF?! These guys, and apparently you too, are taking two YEARS off. Fucking professional deadbeats. All they do is sit around, collect checks, and post to the internet all day. It's pathetic.
>> The money comes from the same place it came from when working people were >> paying you when you weren't working. I guess you didn't have a problem >> taking a government handout then. I'm sure there were people then >> complaining about having to pay people like you for not working.
> And when was that, numb nuts? About 30 years ago when I took TWO MONTHS > OFF?! These guys, and apparently you too, are taking two YEARS off. > Fucking professional deadbeats. All they do is sit around, collect > checks, and post to the internet all day. It's pathetic.
same principle, just different time. Why did it take you 2 months to find a job? Or was it really like you said "I took two months OFF?" Must have been great to have the working taxpayers giving you money while you "took time off". You didn't have the internet back then, so what did you do all day for two months? 8 hours a day of job hunting? I doubt it. You just took time off and took advantage of a government program. Did you even need the money, or did you just say, "I don't need it, but since it's a government handout, I'll take it?" That's as pathetic then as it is today.
> I'm reading the newspaper this morning and it says Congress extended > unemployment benefits, by a vote of 404 to 12. The article goes on > to say that they get like 99 weeks of benefits! Holy crap, no > wonder our country is going down the drain. I mean, it's been > years, decades, since I ever got unemployment. I don't remember it > being anywhere near that much. Are you kidding me? Are you telling > me that these deadbeats nowadays can sit on their asses for 99 > friggin weeks, getting paid by us people who still work? > Unbelievable!
> The article went on to say that the home purchase program is going > to be extended also, so that people who have bought a house in the > last five years get like $6000, or something like that. What the > fuck?! Where is all this money supposed to come from? And what > really gets me, only 12 Congressmen voted NO! Of course, all 12 > were Republicans, the only ones with any sense in their heads. But > how many Republicans does that mean still voted for this craziness?
> It's like Fl Turbo has been telling me for years on this newsgroup > now. Once the people figure out they can vote themselves free stuff, > and the whore politicians go along with this, we are seeing the > beginning of the end. Apparently, the bill was approved and waiting > to be signed by Obama. Yeah, like THAT has any chance of being > stopped by him. This is just crazy. Absolutely crazy.
Here it's around 55% of your gross income up to about $450/wk. The number of weeks you can collect depends on the unemployment rate in your region, but is usually around 40 weeks.
> Here it's around 55% of your gross income up to about $450/wk. The number > of weeks you can collect depends on the unemployment rate in your region, > but is usually around 40 weeks.
I would have guessed about 20 weeks, until I read the article. I guess there would be nothing wrong with "insurance", but the employer should not be forced to pay into it. If people want to have unemployment "insurance" then they should have to buy it by themselves. Unless, of course, the employer WANTS to provide it, as part of a package. When you have the government forcing the employers to "match" payments into this, realistically the employer is paying ALL of it. Because that is the cost of employing that employee. "Matching" is an illusion.
> > I'm reading the newspaper this morning and it says Congress extended > > unemployment benefits, by a vote of 404 to 12. The article goes on to say > > that they get like 99 weeks of benefits! Holy crap, no wonder our country > > is going down the drain. I mean, it's been years, decades, since I ever > > got unemployment. I don't remember it being anywhere near that much. Are > > you kidding me? Are you telling me that these deadbeats nowadays can sit > > on their asses for 99 friggin weeks, getting paid by us people who still > > work? Unbelievable!
> > The article went on to say that the home purchase program is going to be > > extended also, so that people who have bought a house in the last five > > years get like $6000, or something like that. What the fuck?! Where is > > all this money supposed to come from? And what really gets me, only 12 > > Congressmen voted NO! Of course, all 12 were Republicans, the only ones > > with any sense in their heads. But how many Republicans does that mean > > still voted for this craziness?
> > It's like Fl Turbo has been telling me for years on this newsgroup now. > > Once the people figure out they can vote themselves free stuff, and the > > whore politicians go along with this, we are seeing the beginning of the > > end. Apparently, the bill was approved and waiting to be signed by Obama. > > Yeah, like THAT has any chance of being stopped by him. This is just > > crazy. Absolutely crazy.
> > -Paul Popinjay
> Here in the UK there are people in their 50's that have been on unemployment > benefit since they left school at 16. They've never worked a day in their > life. They also get their rent and council tax paid for. 99 weeks is nothing > over here.- Hide quoted text -
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Just wait until he springs the Single Mothers Pension on them....
On Nov 10 2009 10:48 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
> "Dave the Clueless" <fract...@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:7btls6x58h.ln2@recgroups.com... > > On Nov 7 2009 11:33 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
> >> Yeah, shithead, it's much better to let these people all starve and get > >> forclosed on... that's SO good for the economy.
> > I neither said nor implied any such thing, fool. > Of course you did
> When you bemoan unemployment payouts, you're implicitly endorsing NOT making > them.
I didn't bemoan the payouts, O Clueless Wonder. I am frightened by the way Congress is placing the burden on small business, the very soul of employment in this country.
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> >> I have no idea, but I'll take a guess at $300.
> > Here it's around 55% of your gross income up to about $450/wk. The number > > of weeks you can collect depends on the unemployment rate in your region, > > but is usually around 40 weeks.
> I would have guessed about 20 weeks, until I read the article. I guess > there would be nothing wrong with "insurance", but the employer should not > be forced to pay into it. If people want to have unemployment "insurance" > then they should have to buy it by themselves. Unless, of course, the > employer WANTS to provide it, as part of a package. When you have the > government forcing the employers to "match" payments into this, > realistically the employer is paying ALL of it. Because that is the cost of > employing that employee. "Matching" is an illusion.- Hide quoted text -
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Actually Paul it is the employee who pays it. Just like the employer half of SS. Anything the employer pays as a cost of employing a person ultimately comes from the money available to pay the employee.
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Actually Paul it is the employee who pays it. Just like the employer half of SS. Anything the employer pays as a cost of employing a person ultimately comes from the money available to pay the employee.
That's what I said. Or that's what I meant anyway. There is no matching. This is the price the employee must forego to get the job, it is the cost of hiring him. If it costs too much, the job does not exist. Fuck it. Every employer should just close up his business and let the people starve. Seriously, I'm starting to think that. Employees are ungrateful anyway. Business owners and property owners should just call it quits. No more jobs, no more rentals, let the masses just die in the desert. Good! The freeway won't be so jammed anymore.
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