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Jim Thomas  
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 More options Oct 31, 6:41 am
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
From: Jim Thomas <jimbohtho...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:41:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Oct 31 2009 6:41 am
Subject: 2004 Impala Electrical Problem
My Impala has been running (and starting) with no problems. Today, I
tried to start the car and things started "popping" all round, the
lights etc sagged, and I quit trying. I checked the battery voltage
(about 12.5 V), and tried again. The voltage sagged to about 8, the
popping went on again. I figured that the low voltage caused the
computer to do strange things (the popping), so I checked the battery
water level. One cell was quite low, so I filled it. (BTW, this is a
two-year-old battery). I charged the battery to full charge (6 amps
for about 2 hours), and tried again. The car started fine, over
several attempts, and I am now monitoring the battery voltage.
For a while, I was sure that I had a starter problem, but now I'm not
so sure. So here are my questions: could a low water level in one cell
cause a battery to act like this? Could a low or fluctuating battery
voltage cause the "popping" What else could be wrong?

TIA for any help. I've asked for help on this group several times in
the past, and have never been disappointed.

Jim Thomas


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Tegger  
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 More options Oct 31, 6:19 pm
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From: Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:19:34 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sat, Oct 31 2009 6:19 pm
Subject: Re: 2004 Impala Electrical Problem
Jim Thomas <jimbohtho...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8426436d-8859-4f42-bc87-
88d60c42a...@m7g2000prd.googlegroups.com:

> My Impala has been running (and starting) with no problems. Today, I
> tried to start the car and things started "popping" all round, the
> lights etc sagged, and I quit trying. I checked the battery voltage
> (about 12.5 V), and tried again. The voltage sagged to about 8, the
> popping went on again. I figured that the low voltage caused the
> computer to do strange things (the popping), so I checked the battery
> water level. One cell was quite low, so I filled it. (BTW, this is a
> two-year-old battery). I charged the battery to full charge (6 amps
> for about 2 hours), and tried again. The car started fine, over
> several attempts, and I am now monitoring the battery voltage.
> For a while, I was sure that I had a starter problem, but now I'm not
> so sure. So here are my questions: could a low water level in one cell
> cause a battery to act like this? Could a low or fluctuating battery
> voltage cause the "popping" What else could be wrong?

Engine OFF, turn the headlights on for five minutes. Turn the lights off
again, then wait another five minutes. Now check the voltage across the
terminals.

What do you find? And be PRECISE in your reportage. "About 12.5V" isn't
good enough to tell anything from it.

If you get less than 12.65V, then the battery isn't holding a charge
anymore, or your alternator/voltage regulator has a problem.

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Tegger


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Jim Thomas  
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 More options Nov 1, 12:11 am
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From: Jim Thomas <jimbohtho...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:11:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Nov 1 2009 12:11 am
Subject: Re: 2004 Impala Electrical Problem
On Oct 31, 6:19 am, Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:

Voltage after sitting overnight- 12.45V
Engine on charging voltage- 14.25V (Charged for about 5 minutes)
Engine off, lights on for 5 minutes- 11.56V
Lights off, after 5 minutes- 12.17V

Might be a battery problem as you say, but I still wonder if a low
battery would cause all the noise and lights that I got yesterday
trying to stsrt.

Jim Thomas


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Tegger  
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 More options Nov 1, 12:34 am
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From: Tegger <inva...@invalid.inv>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:34:18 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Nov 1 2009 12:34 am
Subject: Re: 2004 Impala Electrical Problem
Jim Thomas <jimbohtho...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:e8f27fa3-f4d0-4f8c-94fb-b2f4da8ec0cb@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com:

> Voltage after sitting overnight- 12.45V
> Engine on charging voltage- 14.25V (Charged for about 5 minutes)

Charging system is good.

> Engine off, lights on for 5 minutes- 11.56V
> Lights off, after 5 minutes- 12.17V

> Might be a battery problem as you say,

Your battery is basically dead; it will not hold a charge.

 but I still wonder if a low

> battery would cause all the noise and lights that I got yesterday
> trying to stsrt.

Very likely, yes.

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Tegger


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Scott Dorsey  
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 More options Nov 1, 12:41 am
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From: klu...@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Date: 31 Oct 2009 15:41:17 -0400
Local: Sun, Nov 1 2009 12:41 am
Subject: Re: 2004 Impala Electrical Problem
Jim Thomas  <jimbohtho...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Voltage after sitting overnight- 12.45V
>Engine on charging voltage- 14.25V (Charged for about 5 minutes)
>Engine off, lights on for 5 minutes- 11.56V
>Lights off, after 5 minutes- 12.17V

That sure is a bad battery, all right.

>Might be a battery problem as you say, but I still wonder if a low
>battery would cause all the noise and lights that I got yesterday
>trying to stsrt.

What you heard were a lot of things trying to turn on, which couldn't
because the battery voltage had dropped to damn near nothing once the
starter was turned on.
--scott

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"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


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ben91932  
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 More options Nov 1, 9:24 am
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From: ben91932 <benteac...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:24:02 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Nov 1 2009 9:24 am
Subject: Re: 2004 Impala Electrical Problem

> TIA for any help. I've asked for help on this group several times in
> the past, and have never been disappointed.

> Jim Thomas

I'd bet a dozen good donuts that a new battery will fix the popping
for several years.
2 delco batteries in one days posts!
Dont these things come in 3's?
Ben

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Jim Thomas  
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 More options Nov 2, 6:37 am
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From: Jim Thomas <jimbohtho...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:37:51 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 2 2009 6:37 am
Subject: Re: 2004 Impala Electrical Problem
On Oct 31, 8:24 pm, ben91932 <benteac...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > TIA for any help. I've asked for help on this group several times in
> > the past, and have never been disappointed.

> > Jim Thomas

> I'd bet a dozen good donuts that a new battery will fix the popping
> for several years.
> 2 delco batteries in one days posts!
> Dont these things come in 3's?
> Ben

This wasn't a Delco, but an Autolite. I replaced the battery; no
popping so far, I'll let you all know if this happens again within "a
few years" ;)  Thanks to all.

Jim


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