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Joy Beeson  
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 More options Nov 8, 5:33 am
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
From: Joy Beeson <jbee...@invalid.net.invalid>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:33:49 -0500
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 5:33 am
Subject: Re: Things we remember...

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:39:13 -0500, Mike Ash <m...@mikeash.com> wrote:
> Now now, let's remember which came first. People started carrying phones
> with them everywhere *by choice*, and the pay phones disappeared later.
> It would be more properly phrased as, payphones were everywhere, because
> people *couldn't* carry telephones around with them wherever they went.

It's chicken AND egg.  Some people got cell phones, fewer coins were
dropped into pay phones, a few marginal phone booths were removed, the
few people who had been using those booths had to get cell phones --
and didn't use any other booths either, so a few more booths didn't
pay their way, eventually there came a tipping point and I'm looking
for a cell phone that I can throw into an emergency kit and forget for
ten years, because I know the next time I get stuck out in the
country, knocking on the first door I come to and asking to use the
phone won't get me anywhere except maybe arrested.  

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Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net


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Mike Ash  
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 More options Nov 8, 5:17 am
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From: Mike Ash <m...@mikeash.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:17:34 -0500
Local: Sun, Nov 8 2009 5:17 am
Subject: Re: Things we remember...
In article <gd4cf5dr0iclgud8hbcrmp5kmc2oepm...@4ax.com>,
 Joy Beeson <jbee...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:

I never encountered anyone who got a cell phone because pay phones were
hard to find. I don't doubt that such people *exist*, but they did not
drive the massive adoption of cell technology over the past 20 years or
so.

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Mike Ash
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Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon


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Michael Stemper  
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 More options Nov 10, 7:13 pm
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From: mstem...@walkabout.empros.com (Michael Stemper)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:13:53 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Nov 10 2009 7:13 pm
Subject: Re: Things we remember...
In article <mike-1C4B97.19173407112...@news.eternal-september.org>, Mike Ash <m...@mikeash.com> writes:

>In article <gd4cf5dr0iclgud8hbcrmp5kmc2oepm...@4ax.com>, Joy Beeson <jbee...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:39:13 -0500, Mike Ash <m...@mikeash.com> wrote:
>> > Now now, let's remember which came first. People started carrying phones
>> > with them everywhere *by choice*, and the pay phones disappeared later.
>> It's chicken AND egg.  Some people got cell phones, fewer coins were
>> dropped into pay phones, a few marginal phone booths were removed, the
>> few people who had been using those booths had to get cell phones --
>I never encountered anyone who got a cell phone because pay phones were
>hard to find.

During the decade prior to my getting a cell phone, I used a pay phone
exactly twice -- both times from the MSP airport to call my son's mother
and let them know that I was back in the US and ready to pick him up
for the weekend. The second of those times, the MAC (Metropolitan
Airport Commission) had blocked access to my long-distance carrier
(and presumably other carriers, as well).

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Michael F. Stemper
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"Writing about jazz is like dancing about architecture" - Thelonious Monk


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