spi...@freenet.co.uk wrote: > And verily, didst Dragon Lady <dragonlad...@q.com> hastily babble thusly: > > My top one would be (don't remember the name) the one with the salt vampire. > > I mean really, how does a creature that lives on salt evolve on a world that > > doesn't have enough salt for it to live on?
> I think the idea behind that one was, the race was prolific enough to eat > all the salt on the planet. And she/it was the only survivor.
How does the biology of salt vampires work? What happens to the salt inside their bodies? Do salt vampires derive energy from salt? If so, how?
On Nov 2, 10:51 pm, Tim Bruening <tsbru...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> spi...@freenet.co.uk wrote: > > And verily, didst Dragon Lady <dragonlad...@q.com> hastily babble thusly: > > > My top one would be (don't remember the name) the one with the salt vampire. > > > I mean really, how does a creature that lives on salt evolve on a world that > > > doesn't have enough salt for it to live on?
> > I think the idea behind that one was, the race was prolific enough to eat > > all the salt on the planet. And she/it was the only survivor.
> How does the biology of salt vampires work? What happens to the salt > inside their bodies? Do salt vampires derive energy from salt? If so, > how?
Can't vouch for the plot proper, but the giant amoeba one had spectacularly bad special effects, even for Star Trek.
And how does a giant amoeba evolve in space? Intelligent design, of course.
>> And verily, didst Dragon Lady <dragonlad...@q.com> hastily babble thusly: >> > My top one would be (don't remember the name) the one with the salt vampire. >> > I mean really, how does a creature that lives on salt evolve on a world that >> > doesn't have enough salt for it to live on?
>> I think the idea behind that one was, the race was prolific enough to eat >> all the salt on the planet. And she/it was the only survivor.
>How does the biology of salt vampires work? What happens to the salt >inside their bodies? Do salt vampires derive energy from salt? If so, >how?
I think the idea was that the *because* salt was scarce on that planet, a creature had evolved the ability to scavange it from other living things. I'm sure it got its calories and protien from more conventional eating--though if you've just killed someone for their salt, you might as well fry them up before they spoil.
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In article <d6193c52-f97d-4f39-97b9-cdd0f8408...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, DouhetSukd <douhets...@gmail.com> said:
> Can't vouch for the plot proper, but the giant amoeba one had > spectacularly bad special effects, even for Star Trek.
> And how does a giant amoeba evolve in space? Intelligent design, > of course.
It doesn't have to have evolved as a _giant_ amoeba in space. It could have evolved as a regular-sized one and just decided that that whole "mitosis and cytokinesis" reproduction thing just wasn't for it and by gosh it was going to stay in one piece no matter _how_ big it got.
> In article > <d6193c52-f97d-4f39-97b9-cdd0f8408...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, > DouhetSukd <douhets...@gmail.com> said:
> > Can't vouch for the plot proper, but the giant amoeba one had > > spectacularly bad special effects, even for Star Trek.
> > And how does a giant amoeba evolve in space? Intelligent design, > > of course.
> It doesn't have to have evolved as a _giant_ amoeba in space. It > could have evolved as a regular-sized one and just decided that that > whole "mitosis and cytokinesis" reproduction thing just wasn't for > it and by gosh it was going to stay in one piece no matter _how_ big > it got.
> -- wds
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On Nov 3, 2:04 pm, f...@green.rahul.net (Edward A. Falk) wrote:
> Turnabout Intruder, no question. If you hadn't mentioned it above, > I would never have remembered the title.
> Ever see a series called "Quark", starring Richard Benjamin? They > did an excellent parody of The Cloud Minders.
Which episode do you consider a parody of "Cloud Minders"? They did "Shore Leave", "Mirror, Mirror", "The Deadly Years", and "The Ultimate Computer", but I can't think what episode you're thinking of.
Hmm, it's not even on Wikipedia's 1977-1978 network TV schedule or any Wiki page, so I don't even know what else I might have been watching at the time, if anything. I'll check it out via Netflix.
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Mac Breck <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote: >Edward A. Falk wrote: >> Turnabout Intruder, no question. If you hadn't mentioned it above, >> I would never have remembered the title.
>> Ever see a series called "Quark", starring Richard Benjamin? They >> did an excellent parody of The Cloud Minders.
>Hmm, it's not even on Wikipedia's 1977-1978 network TV schedule or any >Wiki page, so I don't even know what else I might have been watching at >the time, if anything. I'll check it out via Netflix.
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Granted I haven't seen it since I was 16, but my memory is that it was *extremely* uneven. Even the best episode, the hour long Star Wars parody had thuddingly unfunny Jean/Gene bits among some sidesplitting moments.
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Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: > In article <W8adnUpYQepOLW3XnZ2dnUVZ_hadn...@supernews.com>, > Mac Breck <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Edward A. Falk wrote: >>> Turnabout Intruder, no question. If you hadn't mentioned it above, >>> I would never have remembered the title.
>>> Ever see a series called "Quark", starring Richard Benjamin? They >>> did an excellent parody of The Cloud Minders.
>> Heard of it, but never saw it. >> http://epguides.com/Quark/ >> Seven 1/2 hr. eps. on NBC ~30 years ago.
>> Hmm, it's not even on Wikipedia's 1977-1978 network TV schedule or >> any Wiki page, so I don't even know what else I might have been >> watching at the time, if anything. I'll check it out via Netflix.
>> -- >> Mac Breck (KoshN)
> Granted I haven't seen it since I was 16, but my memory is that it was > *extremely* uneven. Even the best episode, the hour long Star Wars > parody had thuddingly unfunny Jean/Gene bits among some sidesplitting > moments.
Well, I've never been all that impressed by Thomerson.
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Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: > In article <W8adnUpYQepOLW3XnZ2dnUVZ_hadn...@supernews.com>, > Mac Breck <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Edward A. Falk wrote: >>> Turnabout Intruder, no question. If you hadn't mentioned it above, >>> I would never have remembered the title.
I beg to differ. I think "Spock's Brain", "And the Children Shall Lead", and possibly "The Omega Glory" and "The Way to Eden" beat out that one.
>>> Ever see a series called "Quark", starring Richard Benjamin? They >>> did an excellent parody of The Cloud Minders. >> Heard of it, but never saw it. >> http://epguides.com/Quark/ >> Seven 1/2 hr. eps. on NBC ~30 years ago.
>> Hmm, it's not even on Wikipedia's 1977-1978 network TV schedule or any >> Wiki page, so I don't even know what else I might have been watching at >> the time, if anything. I'll check it out via Netflix.
>> -- >> Mac Breck (KoshN)
> Granted I haven't seen it since I was 16, but my memory is that it was > *extremely* uneven. Even the best episode, the hour long Star Wars > parody had thuddingly unfunny Jean/Gene bits among some sidesplitting > moments.
Really? I remember some of the Jean/Gene bits as very funny:
"I remember ... Becoming a Space Cadet! ... Dating my first Cadet... Killing the Gorgons! ... Helping the sick!..."
Supreme Gorgon: "This man confuses me. Kill him."
But yes, very uneven. It was basically just Too Early. There was not enough media SF to parody for seasons on end, and written SF had far too small an audience to sustain it. It was, in a way, an attempt to do Galaxy Quest before it would have been possible to DO Galaxy Quest.
> In article <W8adnUpYQepOLW3XnZ2dnUVZ_hadn...@supernews.com>, > Mac Breck <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >Edward A. Falk wrote: > >> Turnabout Intruder, no question. If you hadn't mentioned it above, > >> I would never have remembered the title.
> >> Ever see a series called "Quark", starring Richard Benjamin? They > >> did an excellent parody of The Cloud Minders.
> >Heard of it, but never saw it. > >http://epguides.com/Quark/ > >Seven 1/2 hr. eps. on NBC ~30 years ago.
> >Hmm, it's not even on Wikipedia's 1977-1978 network TV schedule or any > >Wiki page, so I don't even know what else I might have been watching at > >the time, if anything. I'll check it out via Netflix.
> >-- > >Mac Breck (KoshN)
> Granted I haven't seen it since I was 16, but my memory is that it was > *extremely* uneven. Even the best episode, the hour long Star Wars > parody had thuddingly unfunny Jean/Gene bits among some sidesplitting > moments.
> Ted
I've always suspected heavy network or studio tampering. For instance, in the pilot, there's a character named Otto Palidrome. In the series, he's simply named "Palindrome" which ceases to be a joke in any way, shape, or form.
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In article <hcqf83$ec...@news.eternal-september.org>, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) (seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com) says...
> Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: > > In article <W8adnUpYQepOLW3XnZ2dnUVZ_hadn...@supernews.com>, > > Mac Breck <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Edward A. Falk wrote: > >>> Turnabout Intruder, no question. If you hadn't mentioned it above, > >>> I would never have remembered the title.
> I beg to differ. I think "Spock's Brain", "And the Children Shall > Lead", and possibly "The Omega Glory" and "The Way to Eden" beat out > that one.
I think "Spock's Brain" is probably the worst one (way to kick off season 3, guys), though "The Omega Glory" is not among my favourite episodes, either. Well, it's not that bad except for the last ten minutes or so.
I can't recall "And the Children Shall Lead" at the moment, but apparently my friendly neighbourhood sf channel is showing it the day after tomorrow ("The Enterprise Incident" was on today).
Juho Julkunen wrote: > In article <hcqf83$ec...@news.eternal-september.org>, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. > Spoor) (seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com) says... >> Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: >>> In article <W8adnUpYQepOLW3XnZ2dnUVZ_hadn...@supernews.com>, >>> Mac Breck <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> Edward A. Falk wrote: >>>>> Turnabout Intruder, no question. If you hadn't mentioned it above, >>>>> I would never have remembered the title.
>> I beg to differ. I think "Spock's Brain", "And the Children Shall >> Lead", and possibly "The Omega Glory" and "The Way to Eden" beat out >> that one.
> I think "Spock's Brain" is probably the worst one (way to kick off > season 3, guys), though "The Omega Glory" is not among my favourite > episodes, either. Well, it's not that bad except for the last ten > minutes or so.
"Free...Dohm?"
> I can't recall "And the Children Shall Lead" at the moment, but > apparently my friendly neighbourhood sf channel is showing it the day > after tomorrow ("The Enterprise Incident" was on today).
"And The Children Shall Lead" is the one with the evil creepy children that take over the Enterprise with the help of an "Angel" who's really a nasty energy creature.
: "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> : "And The Children Shall Lead" is the one with the evil creepy children : that take over the Enterprise with the help of an "Angel" who's really : a nasty energy creature.
Wayne Throop wrote: >> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> >> "And The Children Shall Lead" is the one with the evil creepy >> children that take over the Enterprise with the help of an "Angel" >> who's really a nasty energy creature.
> Worse. Lawyer.
LOL ! True.
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:59:43 -0500, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
<seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote: >> I can't recall "And the Children Shall Lead" at the moment, but >> apparently my friendly neighbourhood sf channel is showing it the day >> after tomorrow ("The Enterprise Incident" was on today).
> "And The Children Shall Lead" is the one with the evil creepy children >that take over the Enterprise with the help of an "Angel" who's really a >nasty energy creature.
> Juho Julkunen wrote: >> In article <hcqf83$ec...@news.eternal-september.org>, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. >> Spoor) (seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com) says... >>> Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: >>>> In article <W8adnUpYQepOLW3XnZ2dnUVZ_hadn...@supernews.com>, >>>> Mac Breck <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> Edward A. Falk wrote: >>>>>> Turnabout Intruder, no question. If you hadn't mentioned it above, >>>>>> I would never have remembered the title.
>>> I beg to differ. I think "Spock's Brain", "And the Children Shall >>> Lead", and possibly "The Omega Glory" and "The Way to Eden" beat out >>> that one.
>> I think "Spock's Brain" is probably the worst one (way to kick off >> season 3, guys), though "The Omega Glory" is not among my favourite >> episodes, either. Well, it's not that bad except for the last ten >> minutes or so.
> "Free...Dohm?"
"Free ... Dumb?"
>> I can't recall "And the Children Shall Lead" at the moment, but >> apparently my friendly neighbourhood sf channel is showing it the day >> after tomorrow ("The Enterprise Incident" was on today).
> "And The Children Shall Lead" is the one with the evil creepy > children that take over the Enterprise with the help of an "Angel" who's > really a nasty energy creature.
Played by the lawyer Melvin Belli.
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Dimensional Traveler wrote: > Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote: >> Juho Julkunen wrote: >>> I can't recall "And the Children Shall Lead" at the moment, but >>> apparently my friendly neighbourhood sf channel is showing it the day >>> after tomorrow ("The Enterprise Incident" was on today).
>> "And The Children Shall Lead" is the one with the evil creepy >> children that take over the Enterprise with the help of an "Angel" >> who's really a nasty energy creature.
> Played by the lawyer Melvin Belli.
Ah, so that gives us _Causus belli_ to dislike him?
On Nov 3, 4:42 pm, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:
> In article <W8adnUpYQepOLW3XnZ2dnUVZ_hadn...@supernews.com>,
> Mac Breck <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >Edward A. Falk wrote: > >> Ever see a series called "Quark", starring Richard Benjamin? They > >> did an excellent parody of The Cloud Minders. > >Hmm, it's not even on Wikipedia's 1977-1978 network TV schedule or any > >Wiki page, so I don't even know what else I might have been watching at > >the time, if anything. I'll check it out via Netflix. > Granted I haven't seen it since I was 16, but my memory is that it was > *extremely* uneven. Even the best episode, the hour long Star Wars > parody had thuddingly unfunny Jean/Gene bits among some sidesplitting > moments.
Yeah, my opinion was that the Jean/Gene bits never worked on the show. They could have morphed or ditched that character. But the rest of it was hilarious.
>> Granted I haven't seen it since I was 16, but my memory is that it was >> *extremely* uneven. Even the best episode, the hour long Star Wars >> parody had thuddingly unfunny Jean/Gene bits among some sidesplitting >> moments.
Yes, the show was very uneven. I only saw a few eps.
The one I'm thinking of has the first officer, Ficus (his people are evolved from plants), being unsucesffully seduced by the princess of the planet they're visiting. It's a parody of the sequence in Cloud Minders where the princess is trying to hit on Spock with no success.
She's getting him to explain the mating rituals of his people to her. They're on their backs waving their hands and feet in the air, and she asks "what happens now?". He responds "now we wait for the bee to come."
Edward A. Falk wrote: > In article > <1f1e4529-009f-4910-bc63-b68ed555d...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, > trag <t...@io.com> wrote: >> On Nov 3, 4:42 pm, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote: >>> In article <W8adnUpYQepOLW3XnZ2dnUVZ_hadn...@supernews.com>,
>>> Mac Breck <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> Edward A. Falk wrote:
>>>>> Ever see a series called "Quark", starring Richard Benjamin? They >>>>> did an excellent parody of The Cloud Minders.
>>>> Wiki page, so I don't even know what else I might have been >>>> watching at the time, if anything. I'll check it out via Netflix.
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>> And verily, didst Dragon Lady <dragonlad...@q.com> hastily babble thusly: >>> My top one would be (don't remember the name) the one with the salt vampire. >>> I mean really, how does a creature that lives on salt evolve on a world that >>> doesn't have enough salt for it to live on? >> I think the idea behind that one was, the race was prolific enough to eat >> all the salt on the planet. And she/it was the only survivor.
> How does the biology of salt vampires work? What happens to the salt > inside their bodies? Do salt vampires derive energy from salt? If so, > how?
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