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On Nov 2, 9:32 am, djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
> A noble effort. Of course, it's inaccurate ...
The main point, I take it, is to make a joke about the movie "Primer". The rest of the cartoon can be but a crude and inaccurate approximation without detracting from its function.
Also: the LotR chart is said to be based on the Peter Jackson movie, not the J. R. R. Tolkien book, so that may have to be taken into account.
On Nov 2, 1:02 pm, Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> On Nov 2, 9:32 am, djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
> > A noble effort. Of course, it's inaccurate ...
> The main point, I take it, is to make a joke about the movie "Primer". > The rest of the cartoon can be but a crude and inaccurate > approximation without detracting from its function.
I thought there might be some connection to the movie "Clerks" 2 which has a big argument between LOTR fans and A Star Wars fan who claims that the LOTR movies consist of nothing but a bunch of guys walking around.
I especially enjoyed "Luke's entire Jedi training". -- As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)
>The main point, I take it, is to make a joke about the movie "Primer". >The rest of the cartoon can be but a crude and inaccurate >approximation without detracting from its function.
But that's not how the creater of xkcd works. Several of his previous charts and diagrams have become references, and are now available in poster form.
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Quadibloc wrote: > On Nov 2, 9:32 am, djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
>> A noble effort. Of course, it's inaccurate ...
> The main point, I take it, is to make a joke about the movie "Primer". > The rest of the cartoon can be but a crude and inaccurate > approximation without detracting from its function.
>>> A noble effort. Of course, it's inaccurate ...
>>The main point, I take it, is to make a joke about the movie "Primer". >>The rest of the cartoon can be but a crude and inaccurate >>approximation without detracting from its function.
> But that's not how the creater of xkcd works. Several of his previous > charts and diagrams have become references, and are now available in > poster form.
His map of the internet is up on my office wall. -- As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)
> >> A noble effort. Of course, it's inaccurate ...
> >The main point, I take it, is to make a joke about the movie "Primer".
> Prior to today, I'd never heard of the movie. Googling it, I can see > why. I also notice that was the darling of the Sundance Film > Festival.
> I suspect the two are not entirely unrelated.
I'm pretty sure there was at least one thread about it either here or in rasff.
I watched it, but only because one scene was filmed in the library where I work. And yes, that graph is appropriate (it's a time travel film with lousy sound recording/editting).
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> > He's got _Twelve Angry Men_ more or less right.
> He missed the visits to the men's room, during which some crucial one- > on-one exchanges take place.
Primer is inaccurate. Uber Geeks have invested a great deal of time and effort into reconstructing charts. Allegedly the producers created elaborate diagrams to ensure that everything was in fact consistent.
James A. Donald wrote: > On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:03:13 -0800 (PST), cryptoguy > <treifam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 2, 3:59 pm, nebu...@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) wrote: >>> djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:
>>>> In article <hcn118$72...@panix3.panix.com>, >>>> James Nicoll <jdnic...@panix.com> wrote: >>>>> ... >>>>> http://xkcd.com/657/large/ >>>> A noble effort. Of course, it's inaccurate ... >>> He's got _Twelve Angry Men_ more or less right. >> He missed the visits to the men's room, during which some crucial one- >> on-one exchanges take place.
> Primer is inaccurate. Uber Geeks have invested a great deal of time > and effort into reconstructing charts. Allegedly the producers > created elaborate diagrams to ensure that everything was in fact > consistent.
That doesn't mean the director _kept_ all that elaborate internal consistency in the film he (or she) shot. They do seem to frequently feel that the script they were hired to film gets in the way of their artistic vision.
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> > >> A noble effort. Of course, it's inaccurate ...
> > >The main point, I take it, is to make a joke about the movie "Primer".
> > Prior to today, I'd never heard of the movie. Googling it, I can see > > why. I also notice that was the darling of the Sundance Film > > Festival.
> > I suspect the two are not entirely unrelated.
> I'm pretty sure there was at least one thread about it either here > or in rasff.
> I watched it, but only because one scene was filmed in the library > where I work. And yes, that graph is appropriate (it's a time > travel film with lousy sound recording/editting).
You try producing a movie of that length with a $7000 budget and not have some quality issues.
Dimensional Traveler <dtra...@sonic.net> writes: > James A. Donald wrote: >> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:03:13 -0800 (PST), cryptoguy >> <treifam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 2, 3:59 pm, nebu...@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) wrote: >>>> djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:
>>>>> In article <hcn118$72...@panix3.panix.com>, >>>>> James Nicoll <jdnic...@panix.com> wrote: >>>>>> ... >>>>>> http://xkcd.com/657/large/ >>>>> A noble effort. Of course, it's inaccurate ... >>>> He's got _Twelve Angry Men_ more or less right. >>> He missed the visits to the men's room, during which some crucial one- >>> on-one exchanges take place.
>> Primer is inaccurate. Uber Geeks have invested a great deal of time >> and effort into reconstructing charts. Allegedly the producers >> created elaborate diagrams to ensure that everything was in fact >> consistent.
> That doesn't mean the director _kept_ all that elaborate internal > consistency in the film he (or she) shot. They do seem to frequently > feel that the script they were hired to film gets in the way of their > artistic vision.
In the case of Primer (which I'd also not heard of before today, but I'm now very curious to see), the writer, director and one of the stars were all the same person. -- As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)
Mark Reichert wrote: > On Nov 2, 6:41 pm, Konrad Gaertner <kgaert...@tx.rr.com> wrote: > > Derek Lyons wrote:
> > I watched it, but only because one scene was filmed in the library > > where I work. And yes, that graph is appropriate (it's a time > > travel film with lousy sound recording/editting).
> You try producing a movie of that length with a $7000 budget and not > have some quality issues.
While understandable, that doesn't make such problems less annoying...
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> > >> A noble effort. Of course, it's inaccurate ...
> > >The main point, I take it, is to make a joke about the movie "Primer".
> > Prior to today, I'd never heard of the movie. Googling it, I can see > > why. I also notice that was the darling of the Sundance Film > > Festival.
> I just got together with a couple of friends and watched it again. > It's good!
...But, for the record, let me say that no way in *hell* is there a consistent plot behind it. Any giant charts describing Primer, allegedly from the director or not, are forays into what I like to call "making shit up".
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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In article <slrnhev5fk.4hg.wcit...@wcitoan-via.eternal-september.org>, "W. Citoan" <wcit...@NOSPAM-yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mark Reichert wrote: > > On Nov 2, 6:41 pm, Konrad Gaertner <kgaert...@tx.rr.com> wrote: > > > Derek Lyons wrote:
> > > I watched it, but only because one scene was filmed in the library > > > where I work. And yes, that graph is appropriate (it's a time > > > travel film with lousy sound recording/editting).
> > You try producing a movie of that length with a $7000 budget and not > > have some quality issues.
> While understandable, that doesn't make such problems less annoying...
Frankly, if after watching a $7,000 feature film the worst complaint is "lousy sound recording/editing", I would treat that as an extreme compliment.
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