W. Citoan wrote:
> William December Starr wrote:
>>  cryptoguy <treifam...@gmail.com> said:
>>> My 2007 Altima (3.5 lt gas engine) has a starter button. The key fob
>>> does indeed operate wirelessly, and also activates the door buttons
>>> to enable me to lock or unlock from the outside. This is really
>>> handy - I don't have to get a hand free, or take off winter gloves,
>>> to take the key chain out of my pocket.
>>  In these cars with starter buttons... is there still a slot into
>>  which one inserts a key, just to hold the key (and its fob) in place
>>  near a sensor?  Or do you just hold the key in your hand when you
>>  push the starter switch, and then put it back in your pocket?

> You just leave the key in your pocket, bag, purse, etc.  It doesn't need
> to be near the sensor, just inside the car.

> I don't know about all of them, but in the ones I've seen, the switch
> still allows for manual use as a backup.

> W. Citoan wrote:
> > William December Starr wrote:
> >>  cryptoguy <treifam...@gmail.com> said:
> >>> My 2007 Altima (3.5 lt gas engine) has a starter button. The key fob
> >>> does indeed operate wirelessly, and also activates the door buttons
> >>> to enable me to lock or unlock from the outside. This is really
> >>> handy - I don't have to get a hand free, or take off winter gloves,
> >>> to take the key chain out of my pocket.
> >>  In these cars with starter buttons... is there still a slot into
> >>  which one inserts a key, just to hold the key (and its fob) in place
> >>  near a sensor?  Or do you just hold the key in your hand when you
> >>  push the starter switch, and then put it back in your pocket?

> > You just leave the key in your pocket, bag, purse, etc.  It doesn't need
> > to be near the sensor, just inside the car.

> > I don't know about all of them, but in the ones I've seen, the switch
> > still allows for manual use as a backup.

> Would you be able to start the car while the key-holder is standing outside?

Mike Ash wrote:
>  <robb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > W. Citoan wrote:
> > > William December Starr wrote:

> > >>  In these cars with starter buttons... is there still a slot into
> > >>  which one inserts a key, just to hold the key (and its fob) in
> > >>  place near a sensor?  Or do you just hold the key in your hand
> > >>  when you push the starter switch, and then put it back in your
> > >>  pocket?

> > > You just leave the key in your pocket, bag, purse, etc.  It
> > > doesn't need to be near the sensor, just inside the car.

> > > I don't know about all of them, but in the ones I've seen, the
> > > switch still allows for manual use as a backup.

> > Would you be able to start the car while the key-holder is standing
> > outside?

>  Almost certainly. The car can't really tell whether it's inside or
>  out, but just if it's within a certain range.