On Oct 31, 11:03 am, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I love you. I love you madly. You big nut bucket.
> Now I'm guilty of crimes against humanity.
Observer
It is either your basic stupidity or your inherent criminality that
blinds you to the fact that the deliberate perpetuation of ignorance
is a crime against humanity and that when children are involved it
becomes child abuse.
I am reasonably sure with you it is the simple function of your
stupidity which propels you into the idiotic and criminal stance which
you so ineffectively attempt to defend.
But I didn't even do
> nuffin! Oi vay! I sense a revolution is on the way. Reminiscent of the
> glory days of 1917. I is all skeered!
You are too stupid to be afraid of the damage done by purveying the
hideous , psychotic filth of Christianity .
> On Oct 26, 8:24 am, Observer <mayors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 24, 5:19 pm, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On Oct 24, 8:12 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > [Chris]
> > > > > why? Due to some notion of political correctness? Why would you lump
> > > > > the book of Genesis in w/a lot that includes the *world* being built
> > > > > from the carcass of a slain lizard??? I know you're new Simon, but
> > > > > that canard is so old an tired, well, I thought even you would have
> > > > > realized the illogic in it by now.
> > > > Hey, teach one myth, teach them all.
> > > > And I'm sorry but I simply can't express how little your thought, as
> > > > outlined above, means to me.
> > > So therefore you find that there's no difference between Genesis and
> > > various Egyptian myths where one of the *gods* masturbated and created
> > > land masses and such?
> > Observer
> > How sad that you can not understand that all such myths are equally
> > worthy of presentation , evaluation, and their place in history. Each
> > one is a representation of our traverse from greater tom lesser
> > ignorance, and as such provides a view or the infinite ignorance from
> > which we are emerging.
> > It is only with the most recent years that we have learned to trust
> > scientific method for the its ultimate utilitarian values . There is
> > no subject about which knowledge can not be gained even if the
> > knowledge thereby gained provides that the subject is simply a falsely
> > constructed hypothesis dis-proven in the application thereof.
> > It is interesting that you are so dim witted as to fail tom understand
> > the equal validity of ejaculated land mass and the calling of a
> > universe into being by a creature for which there exists no
> > scientifically verifiable substantiating scientific data.
> > If such is the result of your basic inability to think then I regret
> > having to expose your shameful lack of human cognitive abilities. If ,
> > however , such is the product of your basic misanthropic stance
> > against the value of learning the essentials, upon which humanities
> > very survival depends then I say that such is damnable , and that you
> > thereby have committed crimes against humanity. Further I submit that
> > teaching such to children is a terrible form of child abuse.
> > Yours is a rebellion against the only possible chance there is for
> > human survival into the coming millenniums
> > I guess you consider simple assault to be
> > > equivalent w/cold blooded murder too.
> > Observer
> > Ugh !
> > Your feeble abilities to think are disgusting .
> > > I've asked this question many times in the past, and rarely encounter
> > > anything approaching a reasonable answer (more often then not replies
> > > like Simon's above). Do you atheists really see the book of Genesis as
> > > absurd as all the other obviously invented creation myths?
> > Observer
> > I am an atheist , and speak only for my own position of rejecting such
> > myths as utterly useless for any purpose other than the study of the
> > undisciplined, uneducated minds from which such nonsense emerged.
> > Psychonomist
> > > > --
> > > > "Every science has for its basis a system of principles as fixed
> > > > and unalterable as those by which the universe is regulated and
> > > > governed. Man cannot make principles; he can only discover them."
The filth of Christanity........and in your mind do you think in other
releams their is not filth???? I will not defend filth...but I will defend
understanding of each situation...and have the whole picture to
discern....the ones that it involves..Is it is smut--Humanity I will
honor....confession is good for the soul , ---The ones that hurt children
and start a child out in life in filth -smut, ect...will answer and be
responible for it...and the ones that are stumbling blocks to others in
their pursuit of happiness-their pursuit of the truth----I won't Justify in
any means--
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Observer <mayors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 31, 11:03 am, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I love you. I love you madly. You big nut bucket.
> > Now I'm guilty of crimes against humanity.
> Observer
> It is either your basic stupidity or your inherent criminality that
> blinds you to the fact that the deliberate perpetuation of ignorance
> is a crime against humanity and that when children are involved it
> becomes child abuse.
> I am reasonably sure with you it is the simple function of your
> stupidity which propels you into the idiotic and criminal stance which
> you so ineffectively attempt to defend.
> But I didn't even do
> > nuffin! Oi vay! I sense a revolution is on the way. Reminiscent of the
> > glory days of 1917. I is all skeered!
> You are too stupid to be afraid of the damage done by purveying the
> hideous , psychotic filth of Christianity .
> Psychonomist
> > On Oct 26, 8:24 am, Observer <mayors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Oct 24, 5:19 pm, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > On Oct 24, 8:12 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > [Chris]
> > > > > > why? Due to some notion of political correctness? Why would you
> lump
> > > > > > the book of Genesis in w/a lot that includes the *world* being
> built
> > > > > > from the carcass of a slain lizard??? I know you're new Simon,
> but
> > > > > > that canard is so old an tired, well, I thought even you would
> have
> > > > > > realized the illogic in it by now.
> > > > > Hey, teach one myth, teach them all.
> > > > > And I'm sorry but I simply can't express how little your thought,
> as
> > > > > outlined above, means to me.
> > > > So therefore you find that there's no difference between Genesis and
> > > > various Egyptian myths where one of the *gods* masturbated and
> created
> > > > land masses and such?
> > > Observer
> > > How sad that you can not understand that all such myths are equally
> > > worthy of presentation , evaluation, and their place in history. Each
> > > one is a representation of our traverse from greater tom lesser
> > > ignorance, and as such provides a view or the infinite ignorance from
> > > which we are emerging.
> > > It is only with the most recent years that we have learned to trust
> > > scientific method for the its ultimate utilitarian values . There is
> > > no subject about which knowledge can not be gained even if the
> > > knowledge thereby gained provides that the subject is simply a falsely
> > > constructed hypothesis dis-proven in the application thereof.
> > > It is interesting that you are so dim witted as to fail tom understand
> > > the equal validity of ejaculated land mass and the calling of a
> > > universe into being by a creature for which there exists no
> > > scientifically verifiable substantiating scientific data.
> > > If such is the result of your basic inability to think then I regret
> > > having to expose your shameful lack of human cognitive abilities. If ,
> > > however , such is the product of your basic misanthropic stance
> > > against the value of learning the essentials, upon which humanities
> > > very survival depends then I say that such is damnable , and that you
> > > thereby have committed crimes against humanity. Further I submit that
> > > teaching such to children is a terrible form of child abuse.
> > > Yours is a rebellion against the only possible chance there is for
> > > human survival into the coming millenniums
> > > I guess you consider simple assault to be
> > > > equivalent w/cold blooded murder too.
> > > Observer
> > > Ugh !
> > > Your feeble abilities to think are disgusting .
> > > > I've asked this question many times in the past, and rarely
> encounter
> > > > anything approaching a reasonable answer (more often then not replies
> > > > like Simon's above). Do you atheists really see the book of Genesis
> as
> > > > absurd as all the other obviously invented creation myths?
> > > Observer
> > > I am an atheist , and speak only for my own position of rejecting such
> > > myths as utterly useless for any purpose other than the study of the
> > > undisciplined, uneducated minds from which such nonsense emerged.
> > > Psychonomist
> > > > > --
> > > > > "Every science has for its basis a system of principles as fixed
> > > > > and unalterable as those by which the universe is regulated and
> > > > > governed. Man cannot make principles; he can only discover them."
> > > > > [Thomas Paine]
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I am not sure what atheists are not able to admit, but I do not see
any real difference besides your and many other people emotional
investment in Genesis story, similar to emotional investment many
other people made in their stories.
Grisha
On Oct 31, 11:00 am, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 25, 3:11 pm, "Daniel T." <danie...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > On Oct 24, 8:19 pm, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > why? Due to some notion of political correctness? Why would you
> > > > > lump the book of Genesis in w/a lot that includes the *world*
> > > > > being built from the carcass of a slain lizard??? I know you're
> > > > > new Simon, but that canard is so old an tired, well, I thought
> > > > > even you would have realized the illogic in it by now.
> > > > Hey, teach one myth, teach them all.
> > > > And I'm sorry but I simply can't express how little your thought, as
> > > > outlined above, means to me.
> > > So therefore you find that there's no difference between Genesis and
> > > various Egyptian myths where one of the *gods* masturbated and created
> > > land masses and such? I guess you consider simple assault to be
> > > equivalent w/cold blooded murder too.
> > > I've asked this question many times in the past, and rarely encounter
> > > anything approaching a reasonable answer (more often then not replies
> > > like Simon's above). Do you atheists really see the book of Genesis as
> > > absurd as all the other obviously invented creation myths?
> > I'm new here, and since I want to give a more measured answer than I
> > have read here so far. I will answer your question with a question.
> > Among fairy tales, which is more absurd, Rapunzel or Snow White?
> unfortunately you start by imposing your opinion, though indirectly.
> Imagine for a moment that there was a God who chose to relate the
> sequence of creation events to his children. Barring lengthy
> discussions of DNA and the Standard Model, all to perish w/the using,
> what would a primitive creation account look like? Various pagan myths
> or the book of Genesis?
> > One has an enchantress, a woman who needs radishes so badly that she
> > will die without them, and a girl with hair so long and a scalp so
> > strong, that she can support a man's weight. The other has seven
> > dwarfs a magic mirror, and a transforming queen.
> > Among cartoons, which is more absurd, Bugs Bunny or Transformers?
> > One has a talking rabbit that walks on two legs, while the other has
> > talking cars that walk on two legs.
> > Among creation myths, which is more absurd, the Kojiki or Genesis?
> > One spans eons of time and involves the Three Creating Deities, while
> > the other has only a single deity who gets the job of creation done in
> > six days...
> > What I mean to ask here is, how should I judge absurdity in these
> > cases?
> well, and I had to look it up, there seems to be some political
> incentive behind the creation of the Kojiki, for one. The Nakatsumaki
> begins w/the birth of certain emperor/deities. At that point it's
> becomes a little tough to see it as anything but a propaganda
> campaign. I reckon that amongst the tales are various absurdities akin
> to the carcasses of big lizards being utilized to create land masses
> and such. But I haven't read it, sounds groovy though. The wikipedia
> article didn't go into anything in the way of specifics, so I'll leave
> it at that for now.
> Stuff like this actually helps solidify my point. Genesis is nothing
> like that. It doesn't proceed to explain how things came into being
> (I'd wager _every_ creation myth takes pains to explain such things,
> particularly if it was a product of a fairly literate society). And if
> you're going to attempt to put forth the canard that Genesis is as
> political as all the rest, guess again. The Jews, who didn't even
> exist until a considerably later date, can't trace their *lineage*
> back to the beginning.
> It's way different. Precious few atheists that I've ever had the
> pleasure of discussing this with had the integrity to be able to admit
> it.
On Nov 2, 11:15 am, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The filth of Christanity..
Observer
Yes the fetishes of magic , the sadomasochism of worshiping at the
feet of a poor man being tortured to death along with the acceptance
of a fictive god that both had it's son it.s self tortured to death to
save us from his own wrath and which is intent upon torturing or in
any way inflicting eternal punishment of trillions of human beings is
psychotic filth.
Add to that the inherent and overtly active of turning people away
from the beauty and the very necessary yield of scientific as the only
possible approach to gaining reliable and usable information and we
have compounded this stench into crimes against humanity which when
taught to children constitutes child abuse.
......and in your mind do you think in other
> releams their is not filth????
Observer
Ignorance of any kind is the only true sin and will , left unassailed
by intelligent inquiry and exposure to the light of edified reason
will turn into mankind's nemesis .
I will not defend filth..
Observer
Then don't.
.but I will defend
> understanding of each situation.
Observer
That to which you refer is not a **situation** but the stupidity of
false belief in that for which there exists no scientifically
verifiable substantiating data and the contents of which fly in the
face of edified reason.
..and have the whole picture to
> discern....the ones that it involves..
Observer
The only valid method of discerning the whole picture that is the
universe and the entirety of its functions is through the application
of scientific method. I strongly suggest that you take the time to
learn how actual learning is achieved and what actuality means.
Is it is smut--Humanity I will
> honor....confession is good for the soul
Observer
A stupid statement and the profession of one who's mind is
contaminated by three great lies.
First the existence of a soul as referenced by religion/superstition
where in such is considered to be the spiritual and eternal part of a
living being, commonly held to be separable in existence from the
body; distinct from the physical part.
Second that there is any entity to which any one owes any confession
of any guiltiness.
And third that the feelings which occur in any of us have their
origins in anything other than the electrochemical/ biological
functions of the central nervous system. Learn , please a little
neurology and find out about the excretion of peptides and endogenous
opiates which are that to which we react when we experience pain
pleasure love and any emotion.
The fictions by which we live and build our personal ** philosophies
of as if **heavily influence these secretions all of which are
addictive just as are street drugs.
The ultimate experience of perpetual joy is in learning to control the
flow of such as these endogenous opiates and peptides. Such as is
achieved in the process of meditation, in the joy of discovery , and
the intimate appreciation of the beauty of our fellow humans and the
animals with which we share space ship earth and to whom we owe so
much. ( Just to name a few)
, ---The ones that hurt children
> and start a child out in life in filth -smut, ect...will answer and be
> responible for it..
Observer
There is no automatic justice just as there is no god who will
ultimately judge us it is our responsibility to here and now label
this filth as such and to do all that we can to prevent our selves and
others from being infected by the hideous disease which is the produce
of such ignorance.
.and the ones that are stumbling blocks to others in
> their pursuit of happiness-their pursuit of the truth----I won't Justify in
> any means--
Observer
To the degree that you perpetuate the psychotic filth of Christianity,
to that same degree do you become guilty of crimes against humanity.
If you would would attempt a refutation of my thesis then please
start with scientifically verifiable substantiating data supporting
the existence of or any act of any god ever . From there we can
advance into the psychotic belief system which has been structured
there around and analyze it for it's inconsistency,its effrontery to
what we have learned from the application of scientific method and
edified logic.
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Observer <mayors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 31, 11:03 am, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I love you. I love you madly. You big nut bucket.
> > > Now I'm guilty of crimes against humanity.
> > Observer
> > It is either your basic stupidity or your inherent criminality that
> > blinds you to the fact that the deliberate perpetuation of ignorance
> > is a crime against humanity and that when children are involved it
> > becomes child abuse.
> > I am reasonably sure with you it is the simple function of your
> > stupidity which propels you into the idiotic and criminal stance which
> > you so ineffectively attempt to defend.
> > But I didn't even do
> > > nuffin! Oi vay! I sense a revolution is on the way. Reminiscent of the
> > > glory days of 1917. I is all skeered!
> > You are too stupid to be afraid of the damage done by purveying the
> > hideous , psychotic filth of Christianity .
> > Psychonomist
> > > On Oct 26, 8:24 am, Observer <mayors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Oct 24, 5:19 pm, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Oct 24, 8:12 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > [Chris]
> > > > > > > why? Due to some notion of political correctness? Why would you
> > lump
> > > > > > > the book of Genesis in w/a lot that includes the *world* being
> > built
> > > > > > > from the carcass of a slain lizard??? I know you're new Simon,
> > but
> > > > > > > that canard is so old an tired, well, I thought even you would
> > have
> > > > > > > realized the illogic in it by now.
> > > > > > Hey, teach one myth, teach them all.
> > > > > > And I'm sorry but I simply can't express how little your thought,
> > as
> > > > > > outlined above, means to me.
> > > > > So therefore you find that there's no difference between Genesis and
> > > > > various Egyptian myths where one of the *gods* masturbated and
> > created
> > > > > land masses and such?
> > > > Observer
> > > > How sad that you can not understand that all such myths are equally
> > > > worthy of presentation , evaluation, and their place in history. Each
> > > > one is a representation of our traverse from greater tom lesser
> > > > ignorance, and as such provides a view or the infinite ignorance from
> > > > which we are emerging.
> > > > It is only with the most recent years that we have learned to trust
> > > > scientific method for the its ultimate utilitarian values . There is
> > > > no subject about which knowledge can not be gained even if the
> > > > knowledge thereby gained provides that the subject is simply a falsely
> > > > constructed hypothesis dis-proven in the application thereof.
> > > > It is interesting that you are so dim witted as to fail tom understand
> > > > the equal validity of ejaculated land mass and the calling of a
> > > > universe into being by a creature for which there exists no
> > > > scientifically verifiable substantiating scientific data.
> > > > If such is the result of your basic inability to think then I regret
> > > > having to expose your shameful lack of human cognitive abilities. If ,
> > > > however , such is the product of your basic misanthropic stance
> > > > against the value of learning the essentials, upon which humanities
> > > > very survival depends then I say that such is damnable , and that you
> > > > thereby have committed crimes against humanity. Further I submit that
> > > > teaching such to children is a terrible form of child abuse.
> > > > Yours is a rebellion against the only possible chance there is for
> > > > human survival into the coming millenniums
> > > > I guess you consider simple assault to be
> > > > > equivalent w/cold blooded murder too.
> > > > Observer
> > > > Ugh !
> > > > Your feeble abilities to think are disgusting .
> > > > > I've asked this question many times in the past, and rarely
> > encounter
> > > > > anything approaching a reasonable answer (more often then not replies
> > > > > like Simon's above). Do you atheists really see the book of Genesis
> > as
> > > > > absurd as all the other obviously invented creation myths?
> > > > Observer
> > > > I am an atheist , and speak only for my own position of rejecting such
> > > > myths as utterly useless for any purpose other than the study of the
> > > > undisciplined, uneducated minds from which such nonsense emerged.
> > > > Psychonomist
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > "Every science has for its basis a system of principles as fixed
> > > > > > and unalterable as those by which the universe is regulated and
> > > > > > governed. Man cannot make principles; he can only discover them."
> > > > > > [Thomas Paine]
> > --
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Back to basic's ----Do you believe that there is good and do you believe
there is an evil----do you believe a person can do good and do you believe
they can do bad--Do you believe their is light and do you believe their is
dark ????? Do you believe their is different cults upon this earth and do
you think they do good or do you think they do bad--Do you think Pasture did
good or did he do bad-----Do you think a God is bad for saying that man may
have his own free will.....So what you are saying is this next (maybe) if he
is God how could he allow this with his only begotten son---because God so
love the world he gave his only forgotten son...
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Observer <mayors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 2, 11:15 am, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The filth of Christanity..
> Observer
> Yes the fetishes of magic , the sadomasochism of worshiping at the
> feet of a poor man being tortured to death along with the acceptance
> of a fictive god that both had it's son it.s self tortured to death to
> save us from his own wrath and which is intent upon torturing or in
> any way inflicting eternal punishment of trillions of human beings is
> psychotic filth.
> Add to that the inherent and overtly active of turning people away
> from the beauty and the very necessary yield of scientific as the only
> possible approach to gaining reliable and usable information and we
> have compounded this stench into crimes against humanity which when
> taught to children constitutes child abuse.
> ......and in your mind do you think in other
> > releams their is not filth????
> Observer
> Ignorance of any kind is the only true sin and will , left unassailed
> by intelligent inquiry and exposure to the light of edified reason
> will turn into mankind's nemesis .
> I will not defend filth..
> Observer
> Then don't.
> .but I will defend
> > understanding of each situation.
> Observer
> That to which you refer is not a **situation** but the stupidity of
> false belief in that for which there exists no scientifically
> verifiable substantiating data and the contents of which fly in the
> face of edified reason.
> ..and have the whole picture to
> > discern....the ones that it involves..
> Observer
> The only valid method of discerning the whole picture that is the
> universe and the entirety of its functions is through the application
> of scientific method. I strongly suggest that you take the time to
> learn how actual learning is achieved and what actuality means.
> Is it is smut--Humanity I will
> > honor....confession is good for the soul
> Observer
> A stupid statement and the profession of one who's mind is
> contaminated by three great lies.
> First the existence of a soul as referenced by religion/superstition
> where in such is considered to be the spiritual and eternal part of a
> living being, commonly held to be separable in existence from the
> body; distinct from the physical part.
> Second that there is any entity to which any one owes any confession
> of any guiltiness.
> And third that the feelings which occur in any of us have their
> origins in anything other than the electrochemical/ biological
> functions of the central nervous system. Learn , please a little
> neurology and find out about the excretion of peptides and endogenous
> opiates which are that to which we react when we experience pain
> pleasure love and any emotion.
> The fictions by which we live and build our personal ** philosophies
> of as if **heavily influence these secretions all of which are
> addictive just as are street drugs.
> The ultimate experience of perpetual joy is in learning to control the
> flow of such as these endogenous opiates and peptides. Such as is
> achieved in the process of meditation, in the joy of discovery , and
> the intimate appreciation of the beauty of our fellow humans and the
> animals with which we share space ship earth and to whom we owe so
> much. ( Just to name a few)
> , ---The ones that hurt children
> > and start a child out in life in filth -smut, ect...will answer and be
> > responible for it..
> Observer
> There is no automatic justice just as there is no god who will
> ultimately judge us it is our responsibility to here and now label
> this filth as such and to do all that we can to prevent our selves and
> others from being infected by the hideous disease which is the produce
> of such ignorance.
> .and the ones that are stumbling blocks to others in
> > their pursuit of happiness-their pursuit of the truth----I won't Justify
> in
> > any means--
> Observer
> To the degree that you perpetuate the psychotic filth of Christianity,
> to that same degree do you become guilty of crimes against humanity.
> If you would would attempt a refutation of my thesis then please
> start with scientifically verifiable substantiating data supporting
> the existence of or any act of any god ever . From there we can
> advance into the psychotic belief system which has been structured
> there around and analyze it for it's inconsistency,its effrontery to
> what we have learned from the application of scientific method and
> edified logic.
> The ball is in your court.
> Regards
> Psychonomist
> > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Observer <mayors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Oct 31, 11:03 am, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > I love you. I love you madly. You big nut bucket.
> > > > Now I'm guilty of crimes against humanity.
> > > Observer
> > > It is either your basic stupidity or your inherent criminality that
> > > blinds you to the fact that the deliberate perpetuation of ignorance
> > > is a crime against humanity and that when children are involved it
> > > becomes child abuse.
> > > I am reasonably sure with you it is the simple function of your
> > > stupidity which propels you into the idiotic and criminal stance which
> > > you so ineffectively attempt to defend.
> > > But I didn't even do
> > > > nuffin! Oi vay! I sense a revolution is on the way. Reminiscent of
> the
> > > > glory days of 1917. I is all skeered!
> > > You are too stupid to be afraid of the damage done by purveying the
> > > hideous , psychotic filth of Christianity .
> > > Psychonomist
> > > > On Oct 26, 8:24 am, Observer <mayors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Oct 24, 5:19 pm, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Oct 24, 8:12 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > [Chris]
> > > > > > > > why? Due to some notion of political correctness? Why would
> you
> > > lump
> > > > > > > > the book of Genesis in w/a lot that includes the *world*
> being
> > > built
> > > > > > > > from the carcass of a slain lizard??? I know you're new
> Simon,
> > > but
> > > > > > > > that canard is so old an tired, well, I thought even you
> would
> > > have
> > > > > > > > realized the illogic in it by now.
> > > > > > > Hey, teach one myth, teach them all.
> > > > > > > And I'm sorry but I simply can't express how little your
> thought,
> > > as
> > > > > > > outlined above, means to me.
> > > > > > So therefore you find that there's no difference between Genesis
> and
> > > > > > various Egyptian myths where one of the *gods* masturbated and
> > > created
> > > > > > land masses and such?
> > > > > Observer
> > > > > How sad that you can not understand that all such myths are equally
> > > > > worthy of presentation , evaluation, and their place in history.
> Each
> > > > > one is a representation of our traverse from greater tom lesser
> > > > > ignorance, and as such provides a view or the infinite ignorance
> from
> > > > > which we are emerging.
> > > > > It is only with the most recent years that we have learned to trust
> > > > > scientific method for the its ultimate utilitarian values . There
> is
> > > > > no subject about which knowledge can not be gained even if the
> > > > > knowledge thereby gained provides that the subject is simply a
> falsely
> > > > > constructed hypothesis dis-proven in the application thereof.
> > > > > It is interesting that you are so dim witted as to fail tom
> understand
> > > > > the equal validity of ejaculated land mass and the calling of a
> > > > > universe into being by a creature for which there exists no
> > > > > scientifically verifiable substantiating scientific data.
> > > > > If such is the result of your basic inability to think then I
> regret
> > > > > having to expose your shameful lack of human cognitive abilities.
> If ,
> > > > > however , such is the product of your basic misanthropic stance
> > > > > against the value of learning the essentials, upon which humanities
> > > > > very survival depends then I say that such is damnable , and that
> you
> > > > > thereby have committed crimes against humanity. Further I submit
> that
> > > > > teaching such to children is a terrible form of child abuse.
> > > > > Yours is a rebellion against the only possible chance there is for
> > > > > human survival into the coming millenniums
> > > > > I guess you consider simple assault to be
> > > > > > equivalent w/cold blooded murder too.
> > > > > Observer
> > > > > Ugh !
> > > > > Your feeble abilities to think are disgusting .
> > > > > > I've asked this question many times in the past, and rarely
> > > encounter
> > > > > > anything approaching a reasonable answer (more often then not
> replies
> > > > > > like Simon's above). Do you atheists really see the book of
> Genesis
> > > as
> > > > > > absurd as all the other obviously invented creation myths?
On Nov 3, 6:24 pm, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Back to basic's ----Do you believe that there is good and do you believe
> there is an evil---
Observer
Are you so stupid as to believe that such as good and evil are other
than extrapolations from what is apparently beneficial or deleterious
for the experiencer? those things , people groups and conditions
about which s/he cares? Surely you have more intelligence than that.
-do you believe a person can do good and do you believe
> they can do bad-
Observer
I believe that people can be stupid and brutish acts which lie outside
of the human ideals of proper behavior. The point is that good and
evil have no existence of their own.
-Do you believe their is light and do you believe their is
> dark ?????
Observer
A stupid question ? Do you wish me to discuss the propagation of
light ? and to what end?
Do you believe their is different cults upon this earth and do
> you think they do good or do you think they do bad-
Observer
Look christian the existence of good and evil is nonsense. Such are
simply useful and totally subjective opinions contained in our
judgments relating to the behavior of human kind. Can't you get that
through your superstition filled brain?
-Do you think Pasture did
> good or did he do bad
Observer
I believe that science is the only hope for the long term survival of
human kind but my approval there of makes it neither good nor evil .
Having said such I contend that the rejection of scientific method in
favor of belief in magic/fetishism/and the stupidity of superstitious
filth such as is the entire content of Christianity is an act of
criminality (an other useful and descriptive word relating to purely
subjective opinion) against ones self and against human kind.
-----Do you think a God is bad for saying that man may
> have his own free will.
Observer
I think that any belief in a god is utterly stupid . I suggest that
you attempt to provide us with scientifically verifiable
substantiating data proving the existence or any act of any god. I
notived that you failed to respond to my earlier request to do so.
....So what you are saying is this next (maybe) if he
> is God how could he allow this with his only begotten son---because God so
> love the world he gave his only forgotten son.
Observer
What mind vomit ! A god so utterly inept as to require the torturing
to death of it's self /it's son to save us from its own wrath would
have been utterly stupid.
Further anyone believing that a omnipotent , omnipresent, and
omniscient deity would function thus is utterly stupid.
Psychonomist
..On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Observer <mayors...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > On Nov 2, 11:15 am, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The filth of Christanity..
> > Observer
> > Yes the fetishes of magic , the sadomasochism of worshiping at the
> > feet of a poor man being tortured to death along with the acceptance
> > of a fictive god that both had it's son it.s self tortured to death to
> > save us from his own wrath and which is intent upon torturing or in
> > any way inflicting eternal punishment of trillions of human beings is
> > psychotic filth.
> > Add to that the inherent and overtly active of turning people away
> > from the beauty and the very necessary yield of scientific as the only
> > possible approach to gaining reliable and usable information and we
> > have compounded this stench into crimes against humanity which when
> > taught to children constitutes child abuse.
> > ......and in your mind do you think in other
> > > releams their is not filth????
> > Observer
> > Ignorance of any kind is the only true sin and will , left unassailed
> > by intelligent inquiry and exposure to the light of edified reason
> > will turn into mankind's nemesis .
> > I will not defend filth..
> > Observer
> > Then don't.
> > .but I will defend
> > > understanding of each situation.
> > Observer
> > That to which you refer is not a **situation** but the stupidity of
> > false belief in that for which there exists no scientifically
> > verifiable substantiating data and the contents of which fly in the
> > face of edified reason.
> > ..and have the whole picture to
> > > discern....the ones that it involves..
> > Observer
> > The only valid method of discerning the whole picture that is the
> > universe and the entirety of its functions is through the application
> > of scientific method. I strongly suggest that you take the time to
> > learn how actual learning is achieved and what actuality means.
> > Is it is smut--Humanity I will
> > > honor....confession is good for the soul
> > Observer
> > A stupid statement and the profession of one who's mind is
> > contaminated by three great lies.
> > First the existence of a soul as referenced by religion/superstition
> > where in such is considered to be the spiritual and eternal part of a
> > living being, commonly held to be separable in existence from the
> > body; distinct from the physical part.
> > Second that there is any entity to which any one owes any confession
> > of any guiltiness.
> > And third that the feelings which occur in any of us have their
> > origins in anything other than the electrochemical/ biological
> > functions of the central nervous system. Learn , please a little
> > neurology and find out about the excretion of peptides and endogenous
> > opiates which are that to which we react when we experience pain
> > pleasure love and any emotion.
> > The fictions by which we live and build our personal ** philosophies
> > of as if **heavily influence these secretions all of which are
> > addictive just as are street drugs.
> > The ultimate experience of perpetual joy is in learning to control the
> > flow of such as these endogenous opiates and peptides. Such as is
> > achieved in the process of meditation, in the joy of discovery , and
> > the intimate appreciation of the beauty of our fellow humans and the
> > animals with which we share space ship earth and to whom we owe so
> > much. ( Just to name a few)
> > , ---The ones that hurt children
> > > and start a child out in life in filth -smut, ect...will answer and be
> > > responible for it..
> > Observer
> > There is no automatic justice just as there is no god who will
> > ultimately judge us it is our responsibility to here and now label
> > this filth as such and to do all that we can to prevent our selves and
> > others from being infected by the hideous disease which is the produce
> > of such ignorance.
> > .and the ones that are stumbling blocks to others in
> > > their pursuit of happiness-their pursuit of the truth----I won't Justify
> > in
> > > any means--
> > Observer
> > To the degree that you perpetuate the psychotic filth of Christianity,
> > to that same degree do you become guilty of crimes against humanity.
> > If you would would attempt a refutation of my thesis then please
> > start with scientifically verifiable substantiating data supporting
> > the existence of or any act of any god ever . From there we can
> > advance into the psychotic belief system which has been structured
> > there around and analyze it for it's inconsistency,its effrontery to
> > what we have learned from the application of scientific method and
> > edified logic.
> > The ball is in your court.
> > Regards
> > Psychonomist
> > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Observer <mayors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Oct 31, 11:03 am, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > I love you. I love you madly. You big nut bucket.
> > > > > Now I'm guilty of crimes against humanity.
> > > > Observer
> > > > It is either your basic stupidity or your inherent criminality that
> > > > blinds you to the fact that the deliberate perpetuation of ignorance
> > > > is a crime against humanity and that when children are involved it
> > > > becomes child abuse.
> > > > I am reasonably sure with you it is the simple function of your
> > > > stupidity which propels you into the idiotic and criminal stance which
> > > > you so ineffectively attempt to defend.
> > > > But I didn't even do
> > > > > nuffin! Oi vay! I sense a revolution is on the way. Reminiscent of
> > the
> > > > > glory days of 1917. I is all skeered!
> > > > You are too stupid to be afraid of the damage done by purveying the
> > > > hideous , psychotic filth of Christianity .
> > > > Psychonomist
> > > > > On Oct 26, 8:24 am, Observer <mayors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Oct 24, 5:19 pm, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Oct 24, 8:12 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > [Chris]
> > > > > > > > > why? Due to some notion of political correctness? Why would
> > you
> > > > lump
> > > > > > > > > the book of Genesis in w/a lot that includes the *world*
> > being
> > > > built
> > > > > > > > > from the carcass of a slain lizard??? I know you're new
> > Simon,
> > > > but
> > > > > > > > > that canard is so old an tired, well, I thought even you
> > would
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > > realized the illogic in it by now.
> > > > > > > > Hey, teach one myth, teach them all.
> > > > > > > > And I'm sorry but I simply can't express how little your
> > thought,
> > > > as
> > > > > > > > outlined above, means to me.
> > > > > > > So therefore you find that there's no difference between Genesis
> > and
> > > > > > > various Egyptian myths where one of the *gods* masturbated and
> > > > created
> > > > > > > land masses and such?
> > > > > > Observer
> > > > > > How sad that you can not understand that all such myths are equally
> > > > > > worthy of
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