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 More options Jul 25, 11:14 pm
Newsgroups: alt.support.marriage
From: "AllYou!" <ida...@conversent.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:14:18 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 25 2008 11:14 pm
Subject: Re: "Why doesn't God remove all evil"
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news:58a463ca-8e2d-4218-a360-8222d014f33c@1g2000pre.googlegroups.com,
Erin <squig...@sympatico.ca> mused:

> AllYou! wrote:
>> In
>> news:6775e4c0-b9dc-4c9e-9d4c-0e0555a6112a@p31g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
>> Erin <squig...@sympatico.ca> mused:
>>> Doug Laidlaw wrote:
>>>> Reading Erin's troubles with the presence of evil in the
>>>> world, I thought that the answer given by GROW (the
>>>> Australian 12-step group network, started by a Catholic
>>>> priest) was worth repeating:

>>>> Most of us stopped asking that question long ago.  It stops us
>>>> from getting better.  It shifts the blame to God, and absolves
>>>> us of the responsibility of developing our characters to deal
>>>> with it.

>>>> No answer.  Just don't ask the question.  Taoism as expressed
>>>> in "The Tao of Poh" is full of the same theme:  Don't ask
>>>> unnecessary questions.  Don't waste government money on
>>>> research which increases knowledge with no practical
>>>> application.  Don't worry about "the world" being evil,
>>>> because the world is something you can't change.  Yourself,
>>>> you can change (within limits, but pessimism isn't one of
>>>> them.)

>>>> Doug L.

>>> Hi Doug,

>>> I am inclined to follow Camus on this.  It does bother me when
>>> people do not follow and create happiness when they can.  But
>>> I know that outside the personal level, as you say, "evil" in
>>> the world does exist so much as a quality as indifference to
>>> individuals. Concepts like good and evil belong to the human
>>> realm, and not
>>> to the world itself.

>> The word, itself, includes the human realm.

> You mean people are evil?  The thing is sometimes
> they are evil and sometimes they are good, and much
> depends on their circumstances.  But when it comes
> to choice, that's where the real dual nature man comes
> out: to bomb or not to bomb, that is the question, for example.

No, I don't mean that peole are evil.  People are people.  The very
intellect which allows people to conceptualize good and evil, and to
be able to judge people as such, is also what allows them to be
either good, or evil, and so it's all kind of neutral, as far as
nature goes.

And I don not see any duel nature to people.  Individual people do
whatever they do at any given time.  That is the simple nature of
people.


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