Atheism vs Christianity Google Group

Re: are you an atheist by choice?

2008-11-22T11:04:06Z

Because unlike you I do not believe that one is only justified in
believing what one knows, in part because doing so is utterly
impractical in this world without making the justification for
knowledge that it might as well be mere belief.

I am in no way responsible for the strength of the beliefs of the

Re: [AvC] Re: ( ( ( ( ( - Sionists are a sect of Israel, they are jewes, and they failed - ) ) ) ) )

2008-11-22T10:57:01Z

You are so sure *god* doesn't exist.
The Bible says that those who do not believe in *god* are foolish!!
So, the Bible is calling you a *fool*!

You are having to work real hard to convince yourself that there is *no
god*. And, the only person you are really talking to is yourself. Convince

Re: [AvC] Re: OT: First successful stem-cell created organ transplant

2008-11-22T10:53:35Z

Ah, but you say *god* does not exist. Jesus existed on earth -- He walked
the earth like you are today. You cannot say Jesus didn't exist, without me
saying -- your ancestors didn't exist.

If you believe in the history books at all, you believe that Hitler
existed. I have never seen the queen of England in the flesh - so does she

Re: are you an aunicornist by choice?

2008-11-22T10:48:07Z

That's actually not an unreasonable option, but again if I have no
reason to think that I am hallucinating at all that would be unlikely.

Re: are you an aunicornist by choice?

2008-11-22T10:46:47Z

"More data required". Assuming that all checks shows that neither of
us are likely to be hallucinating, any and all of those sense
experiences could be missing in me. At best, I'd have to conclude
that if the experiences in the other person are externally caused,
it's likely through direct brain stimulation, and therefore not a

Re: College student allegedly kills himself after reading "The GOD DELUSION"

2008-11-22T10:42:52Z

On Nov 21, 10:42 pm, "ranjit_math...@yahoo.com"

Actually, my impression from the article is that they ARE blaming the
teacher for assigning it. And if the teacher assigned it specifically
to him and him alone, they have a very good point, since the only
reason to assign that book -- as opposed to something like, say, "The

Re: College student allegedly kills himself after reading "The GOD DELUSION"

2008-11-22T10:37:48Z

Considering that that was Dawkins' intent in that book, to suggest
that that is a joke is basically casting aspersions on Dawkins'
competence ...

Why not? I've taken quite a few science classes and haven't found
anything particularly contradictory to my beliefs here ...

Re: How old were you when you decided there was no god?

2008-11-22T10:12:13Z

I'm just saying that when you get well, you gain immunity from that
virus/bacteria. Therefore the next time you get sick, it's another
strand of the bug. (I need confirmation from any medical professionals
on this.)

What i wrote next, simply means also that the word flu is generic. It
is means "down with the flu" colloquially, but really there are a lot

Re: College student allegedly kills himself after reading "The GOD DELUSION"

2008-11-22T09:34:21Z

well, christian take science to learn about it, not to allow science
to take tham away from the God of the universe which exist from
everlasting to everlasting.

Re: are you an atheist by choice?

2008-11-22T09:28:41Z

Recall creed begins "I believe in God". There's a reason it doesn't
begin how the atheist might have it "I know God exists". What is wrong
for one who does not follow the rational demonstrations of God to
beleve in God by an act of faith?

Is there some commandment telling us it is wrong, always and

Re: College student allegedly kills himself after reading "The GOD DELUSION"

2008-11-22T08:29:53Z

If he'd had half a brain he could have gone and gotten advice from
other people on ways to refute Dawkin's arguments, and also on
handling challenges to his faith, which were bound to come anyway.

His faith couldn't have been as strong as he made out. Chinese
Christians for example not only have to put up with a constant barrage

Re: The good life

2008-11-22T08:24:16Z

Brock,

You did this bit in answer to me recently. Can't you change
the record, or has your cognitive distortion reached the
level of no return.

Re: The good life

2008-11-22T08:20:37Z

Ward Yung,

"We all know that the existence of God cannot be proven
one way or the other, since God cannot be examined by
definition."

Since god/s are simply thought they can't have an existence
except in the mind. Therefore there is no requirement to
prove that which does not in fact exist in fact.

Re: College student allegedly kills himself after reading "The GOD DELUSION"

2008-11-22T08:06:00Z

trog69,

I tend to agree with both Dev' in that he empathises the point
beyond which borders comedy and the more tragic and a lost life
riven with the guilt of opposing a father (a family oligarch steeped
in religious superstition,), and Neil Kelsy who rightly brings out
the responsibility which should be souly born by the father, but

Re: The universal goal of all religions

2008-11-22T07:39:56Z

Joe,

Atheism is a non-belief in god/s. It is not religion.

The universal goal of all religion and let us briefly sumarise what
religion is, it is:

The expression of belief in and reverence for a superstition that a
superhuman power or powers created and govern the universe.

The universal goal of all religion is to proselytise and gain as many